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editHej FogueraC! I do not understand why file:Afrikaans-Dutch language world.svg should be removed from the category:Linguistic maps of the Afrikaans language but kept in the category:Linguistic maps of the Dutch language. The same map gives info on both languages, so it would seem logical to include it in both categories. Can you enlighten me? Richard 10:32, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's a terminological conflict. "Dutch" may refer to the (let's say) "proper Dutch" or to the "bigger Dutch" that is the union of proper Dutch and Afrikaans. As the map gives info on both proper Dutch and Afrikaans, it should be in the bigger Dutch category. In Commons, the Afrikaans category is in the Dutch category. So this means that the Dutch category is the bigger Dutch category.
- I don't know if there is any criteria for the categorization of languages in Commons. As I have seen, it seems to agree with the family language section in the infotable of the English Wikipedia. At least, it is the criteria that I use. You can see that in the Afrikaans infotable it is categorized as Dutch. If you want to change it, I imagine that it should be changed there first. --Foguera (talk) 20:04, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Usually, one would categorize items in the deepest branch of the category tree that fits. For instance, 'Eiffeltower' would be in 'Paris' which in turn would be in 'France'. Putting 'Eiffeltower' in 'France' as well would be superfluous. In this case, it becomes a bit harder since 'Afrikaans' would be a deeper branch than 'Dutch'. However, the map deals with both 'Afrikaans' and 'Dutch' so putting it only in the category 'Afrikaans' would make it incomplete. Still, not putting it in the category 'Afrikaans' does not feel right, either. As you said: 'Dutch' is an ambiguous term. On the map, it is used for what you call 'proper Dutch'. It does not include 'Afrikaans'. Since the map makes a distinction between Dutch and Afrikaans, in my opinion, it would be better to keep the map in both categories. Richard 09:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- For now, I have re-added the category. Richard 08:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Usually, one would categorize items in the deepest branch of the category tree that fits. For instance, 'Eiffeltower' would be in 'Paris' which in turn would be in 'France'. Putting 'Eiffeltower' in 'France' as well would be superfluous. In this case, it becomes a bit harder since 'Afrikaans' would be a deeper branch than 'Dutch'. However, the map deals with both 'Afrikaans' and 'Dutch' so putting it only in the category 'Afrikaans' would make it incomplete. Still, not putting it in the category 'Afrikaans' does not feel right, either. As you said: 'Dutch' is an ambiguous term. On the map, it is used for what you call 'proper Dutch'. It does not include 'Afrikaans'. Since the map makes a distinction between Dutch and Afrikaans, in my opinion, it would be better to keep the map in both categories. Richard 09:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Lengua valenciana
editBuenas, tengo que pedirte por favor que dejes de revertir los mapas de las lenguas oficiales en España según tu criterio. Si bien es cierto ue muchos lingüistas consideran valenciano y catalán como la misma lengua, lo que trata de reflejar el mapa es la oficialidad de las lenguas en España y el alcance territorial de las mismas. Así que te ruego, te imploro, que por favor dejes de tocar los huevos yaǃ Y me vas a permitir que me tome la licencia de hablarte en plata, porque lo tuyo ya pasa de un simple tocanarices. La Generalitat Valenciana es el organismo que regula la oficialidad de las lenguas en el País Valenciano a través del Estatut de Autonomía, en el que llama a su lengua idioma valenciano y designa este como el oficial. Y no es una simple denominación de una lengua que tiene otɽas denominaciones (como puede ser español y castellano) sino que se trata de una identificación lingüística propia e independiente adscrita a ese territorio y oficial.
Lo que tratamos de reflejar en ese mapa es que la Comunidad Valenciana no mantiene el catalán como lengua oficial, como sí lo hace la Comunidad Balear, territorio que aparecía coloreado con el mismo color que Cataluña, por lo que puedes comprobar que no hay ninguna intención de atacar a la unidad de ninguna lengua, solo reflejar la realidad oficial. Cada administración toma una decisión distinta y esa decisión es la que se trata de reflejar en el mapa. Y no tiene nada que ver con el dialectalismo del sistema catalán-valenciano, para eso ya hay otros mapas,además de descripción con detalle en el propio artículo.
Sé que un usuario que proviene de la vikipedia en catalán está acostumbrado a este tipo de caciquismo en wikipedia, pero esto no es la vikipedia, es Wikimedia Commons, y vas a tener que respetar el consenso y la finalidad con la que se han creado los mapas, más allá de tu manera de ver las cosas. Una enciclopedia trata de mostrar la realidad, y este mapa busca mostrar la realidad oficial (por ello salen solo las lenguas oficiales) no el conflicto lingüístico, y menos desde un punto de vista en concreto.
Como sigas revirtiendo los mapas me veré obligado a dar parte a un bibliotecario por vandalismo. Gracias.-- Fobos | ¿algo que decirme? 04:09, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Pàgina Som Catalans
editPensava que la Viquipèdia era un lloc per compartir informació d’una manera objectiva, no un lloc per a la promoció de certes idees. Està bé que no li agrade Som Catalans com a partit polític, però em sembla de tindre poca professionalitat eliminar una pàgina amb referències i dades objectives i substituir-la amb dos línies insultant el partit. És com si jo ara vaig a la pàgina de la CUP i dic que defensen les expropiacions forçades i que són una coordinadora de perroflautes. La Viquipèdia està per a que cadascú accedisca a la informació i decidisca lliurement com pensar, no per a que gent com vostè els diga com han d’opinar. Perquè vostè no només ha tret tota la part que feia referència als estatus del partit, sinó que també l’ha llevat de la categoria de partits polítics, com si no tingueren el mateix dret a ser un partit com qualsevol altre. Almogàver33 (talk) 21:22, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Mapa
editHola FogueraC, En el 2018 vas canviar el mapa dels idiomes de l'estat espanyol. Em sembla molt bè, pero no vas avisar als viquipedias d'altres idiomes d'aquest canvi, pel qual la llegenda dels colors junt a l'imatge en aquestes viquipedias ja no ès correcte. Canviaré la llegenda en la viquipedia holandesa, pero em sembla que has d'avisar totes els altres viquipedias també, o encara millor, has de canviar-ho tu en totes. Netraam (talk) 21:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Done --Foguera (talk) 09:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hello. What is wrong with categorization of the files File:Dialektologicheskaia Karta 1914 goda.jpeg and File:Linguistic and political map of Eastern Europe, Casimir Delamarre, 1868.jpg with Category:Linguistic maps of the Ukrainian language? Those files shows distribution of Ukrainian language, so I do not understand why not to use the relevant category. --ZxcvU (talk) 21:08, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- Because it's overcategorization. The first one is very clear: it's a map of the East Slavic languages, so it has to go in Category:Linguistic maps of East Slavic languages, not in all of its subcategories. The second is the same: it's a map of the languages of eastern Europe, so it has to go in Category:Linguistic maps of eastern Europe, not in all the categories of languages of eastern Europe. Imagine a linguistic map of the world. We would put it in Category:Linguistic maps of the world, not in all the linguistic categories. --Foguera (talk) 22:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- Initially I thought that such categorization would make it easier to look for maps for languages, but your point seems right too. Sorry for the disturbance. --ZxcvU (talk) 06:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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Breton map
editBon dia. I tried to complete the description. Thanks for you remarks. --Fulup (talk) 11:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
File:Historical expanse of Ainu.png requires updating
editHi FogueraC,
Thank you for your contributions to Commons. I noticed File:Historical expanse of Ainu.png is out of date. Were there Ainu on the Asian Mainland? See talk page. Could you update it? Thanks again. Geographyinitiative (talk) 23:08, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Linguistic maps by language
editHi! About your revert (https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Linguistic_maps_of_Jewish_languages&oldid=537974739) there are already a few subcategories that have "languages" rather than a single language, so I don't see the problem with including those categories in "Linguistic map by language". --SynConlanger (talk) 20:23, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ciao, @SynConlanger: Le famiglie linguistiche che sono in Linguistic maps by language (aramaiche, berbere...) sono lì perché possano anche essere considerate un'unica lingua con dialetti molto divergenti: possiamo parlare delle lingue aramiche e della lingua aramaica, è lo stesso. Questo non è il caso delle lingue giudaiche o delle lingue dei segni: non esiste un'unica lingua giudaiche (il yiddish è più vicino al tedesco che al giudeo-spagnolo) e non esiste un'unica lingua dei segni (la lingua dei segni francese non ha nessuna relazione linguistica con la lingua dei segni cinese).--FogueraC (talk) 22:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello FogueraC since you edited this category, I was wondering if you would consider a rename because of the misspelling Category:Linguistic maps of Oto-manguean languages Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 12:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for revising it! FogueraC (talk) 12:55, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, there's an error in the language distribution... I'm Majorcan, and I don't speak CATALAN, but MALLORCAN! I would appreciate it if you would correct it. Since we are not Catalans,We are MALLORCANS(MALLORQUINES) . 92.178.165.84 18:03, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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Hola FogueraC! Estaba mirando este mapa y me he enterado de que, en relación con la area de difusión del euskera, faltan los municipios que están en la "zona mixta" de Navarra, y también los de la provincia de Álava. Sé que en estas zonas la situación linguistica es diferente, pero a pesar de esto el euskera sigue siendo una lengua viva y con reconocimiento jurídico. Quizá se podrían incluir estos municipios con otra sombra de gris? Gracias por tu atención y que tengas un buen día! --LametinoWiki (talk) 15:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- He revisado mejor y he notado unos pequeños errores. Lo primero es que mitad del territorio municipal de Esteribar está incluida en el mapa actual y la otra no, aunque todo el municipio pertenezca a la zona vascófona. Tambien faltan unos municipios de la comarca de Sakana (en concreto Altsasua/Alsasu, Olatzi, Ziordia, Arakil e Irurtzun). Moltes gràcies --LametinoWiki (talk) 16:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Maps
editThank your for your edits on my content Mapper 01 (talk) 19:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Help for editing description
editHi dear @FogueraC
Can you check my recent edits on the map I created here, and see if my edits is not against wiki common rules? since a user keeps changing the description and category
My Regards
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Khuzistan_Ethnics.png&action=history Mapper 01 (talk) 18:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)