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edithas this guy got anything to do with the paedophile rings in the Jersey school house
Media reporting of the breaking child abuse and murder scandal in Jersey have conspicuously omitted to mention that Governor of the Jersey Home for Boys (Haut de la Garenne) during the 1970s and 1980s was the island's current Bailiff, Sir Philip Martin Bailhache KGB. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.155.189.86 (talk) 20:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I have seen this allegation noted on a number of sites. Can anyone provide a documentary link to show it is true or disprove it?
--TonyinJersey (talk) 14:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I am coming to the conclusion that this allegation is a confusion between Haut de La Garrenne and Victoria College. Philip Bailhache was chairman of the governors at Victoria College in the early 1980s when Jack Hydes was Headmaster. That does not mean that he was in any way complicit or informed about the concealment of the abuse cases there - in particular, he does not seem to have been mentioned in the Sharp report, which mentioned all the people who were involved. --TonyinJersey (talk) 08:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Freemasonry
editIn recent days, anonymous IPs have been adding statements concerning Freemasonry membership to this article. I have asked repeatedly for a reliable reference for this information. None has been provided. I have been reverting. The anti-Freemasonry editors may be excited by the photo showing the Bailiff with the Duke of Kent in the background. As the image description makes clear, it was I who took the photo (as well as Image:HRH Duke of Kent.jpg), on Liberation Day 2007 (when HRH was representing HM The Queen). Any suggestion of a masonic motivation for the subject of this article being in the same image as the Duke of Kent is unencyclopedic interpretation. If any of the anonymous IPs who seem to object to the conjunction want to suggest an alternative free image to illustrate the article, I'm certainly not claiming my snap is an illustrative masterpiece. Man vyi (talk) 06:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I think this will suffice as an objective source, which states that Philip Bailhache is not a freemason. This comes from a freemasonry site, and I have posted the link.
http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/16/p04.php
"A garden for residents of Les Amis in St Saviour, Jersey, a charity associated with the local Mencap, has been provided by the island’s freemasons from its 1999 and 2000 collections. The main objective is to offer care and support in residential settings to adults with learning difficulties. The Province of Jersey organised the design, obtained planning permission and arranged for the contractors to undertake the work. Sir Philip Bailhache, Bailiff of Jersey, opened the garden. Although he is not a mason, his father and grandfather were, the latter being Deputy PGM between 1947 and 1959."
This also explains why Sir Philip may have appeared in a photo alongside the Duke of Kent; he may well know him from the family connection.
Grumble - why don't these anonymous posters ever do solid research!
Photo
editGot another photo of Sir Philip without clutter: Image:Philip Bailhache Liberation Day 2008.jpg. If anyone thinks it's better than the current photo, it might be worth changing. There's also this one: Image:Ridgway Bailhache Liberation Day 2008.jpg which could be cropped if desired. Happy Liberation Day! Man vyi (talk) 18:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
The first is not too bad. The latter one he has his mouth open like a fish! I'd stick with the current one at the moment.
--TonyinJersey (talk) 14:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- More photos now in Commons:Category:Bailiffs_of_Jersey. Man vyi (talk) 10:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
2008
editWould it seem appropriate to put two paragraphs regarding
a) his 2007/2008 treatement for prostate cancer, especially as he has given a public domain interview in the JEP about it; b) his controversion liberation day speech, and the criticism by Gerard Baudains and others, as noted on the BBC news and the JEP? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony theprof (talk • contribs) 14:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- The major re-write today now includes reference to the 2008 Liberation speech, criticism of it, and Sir Philip's defence. Andrew Le Sueur (talk) 12:26, 3 August 2011 (UTC)