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Some kubbah for you!

	A fancy feast from the Middle East
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Ways to improve Hypselobarbus menoni

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Thanks for creating Hypselobarbus menoni! I edit here too, under the username Boleyn and it's nice to meet you :-)

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Sam Alexander (Royal Marine)

I'm not sure why you removed Category:Royal Marines ranks from this article. It's clearly appropriate. I think it's possible you may have misinterpreted the scope of the category? It's for people who served as other ranks in the Royal Marines, not ranks used by the Royal Marines; that's Category:Military ranks of the Royal Marines. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:36, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello Alextejthompson,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

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The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

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Non admin closure for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trendon Watford

Hi I think that your closure of the deletion discussion was incorrect as per #2 WP:BADNAC. At best it should have been no consensus. 2 editors were for the deletion (the nominator User:GoldenRing an admin and User:Kb03) and 2 keep !votes. The argument of the 2nd keep !vote that being a Mcdonald's all american player meets #1 WP:ANYBIO "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times." does not IMHO hold water because WP:NHOOPS already has a criteria for awards "Have won an award, or led the league in a major statistical category of the Continental Basketball Association or NBA G League." I think you should consider reopening the discussion as per WP:NACD. --Dom from Paris (talk) 12:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Domdeparis, sorry I just saw this. Feel free to reopen the discussion, I'm being more careful with NACs now. Cheers, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 12:57, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that, and also for not taking umbrage, there are some pretty big egos here and you never know how people will react! I came across this article when checking up on article creations by an editor that seems not to have read WP:NHOOPS and has created quite a few dodgy articles. As per WP:NACD I'll have to contact an un-involved admin to get them to reopen it as I can't do it myself. That said I could always nominate it again and point to this discussion in the nomination. That will avoid having to get another editor involved. What do you prefer? Dom from Paris (talk) 15:30, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Domdeparis, I'm not sure which is better but I would personally reopen it with a link to this discussion. Cheers, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 16:04, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Dom from Paris (talk) 16:05, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

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Backlog

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Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

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October 2019

Your recent editing history at Armed services shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Hi Merlin04, please check the page history and what it is being changed to, this is clearly not constructive. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 17:01, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Edit_warring#Exemptions, cheers Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 17:03, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed that section of the article. Thanks for letting me know! Merlin04 (talk) 17:04, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

No need to apologise Merlin04, there's a lot of different rules and guidelines and it can be difficult to stay on top of them. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 17:05, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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		This is for your valuable efforts on countering Vandalism and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 16:08, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Path slopu, much appreciated. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 16:10, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Alextejthompson,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 805 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox.
Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.

Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools

• It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
• It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.

Reviewer Feedback

Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.

Second set of eyes

• Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
• Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.

Arbitration Committee

The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.

Community Wish list

There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.

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Five years of editing

Hey, Rubbish computer. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Chris Troutman (talk) 15:33, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Chris troutman, much appreciated. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 16:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Thank you CAPTAIN RAJU. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 17:18, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

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Questions about [Mu-onna]

Hello，I noticed that you were involved in the change of the [Mu-onna] page，I'd like to talk to you about some of the problems of the "Mu-onna" page

This is [Inuyasha] original Yōkai，There is no such monster in the traditional materials of Japan

I'm interested in Japanese legends, and I often look for a lot of information I'm sure that [Mu-onna] is not a Japanese legend, at least I haven't seen it in Japanese materials But I noticed that Wiki in English regarded her as a traditional Japanese creature，And the content is the description in [Inuyasha] (of course, including the monster itself, all are original)，People regard [Mu-onna] wiki records as real and spread in the Internet world Someone might confuse her with faceless monsters like [Noppera-bō (のっぺらぼう)]

Because my English is not good, I mainly rely on machine translation，Not familiar with Wiki editors

Please help.Remove this page from the Japanese legend and link it to the relevant page of [Inuyasha] Thank you. I don't want to see the wrong message spread

ZX1030 (talk) 03:31, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

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