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Coming up in this episode * Death, DEATH, everywhere * Not so bloated, now, is it? * and Someone Agrees with US! 0:00 Cold Open 1:35 Mozilla's Making Changes... Again 24:31 Disks Hate This One Weird Trick! 54:32 The Last of the Season 5 Feedback -54:42 VesuLabs -1:03:02 stephenreaves3205 1:12:16 Next Time & Farewell (For Now) 1:17:38 Stinger The Video Version! https://youtu.be/3nbdwkgpTRA Mozilla Watch 👀 Pocket and Fakespot are out. (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/) Readeck is a Pocket alternative (https://readeck.org/en/) Currently it is self-hosted but they are looking to add a hosted option. Karakeep is another alternative. (https://karakeep.app/) Profiles are coming soon. (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/shifting-left-for-better-accessibility/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The Season Conclusion of our Flatpak/Snap adventure The numbers ``` MacOS App 666MB Brave 451MB Discord 651MB Element 436MB Firefox 873MB GIMP 628MB Inkscape 553MB Kdenlive 451MB OBS 303MB Telegram Windows App 873MB Brave 468MB Discord 1.05GB Element 262MB Firefox 963MB GIMP 562MB Inkscape 1.02GB Kdenlive 394MB OBS 215MB Telegram Ubuntu Snap 4.0K /var/lib/snapd/snaps/bare5.snap 185M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave509.snap 185M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave511.snap 74M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core221908.snap 74M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core221963.snap 67M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24888.snap 67M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24988.snap 68M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/cups1100.snap 12M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/desktop-security-center59.snap 111M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord239.snap 115M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord240.snap 172M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/element-desktop148.snap 62M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ffmpeg-240459.snap 242M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox6159.snap 242M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox6198.snap 12M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firmware-updater167.snap 264M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp517.snap 264M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp519.snap 517M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-42-2204202.snap 405M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-46-240490.snap 92M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gtk-common-themes1535.snap 339M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/inkscape10823.snap 64M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive119.snap 319M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive120.snap 1.4G /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kf6-core2427.snap 208M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/mesa-2404495.snap 576M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/obs-studio1302.snap 4.0K /var/lib/snapd/snaps/partial 15M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/prompting-client104.snap 45M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd23771.snap 51M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd24505.snap 568K /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd-desktop-integration253.snap 11M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snap-store1270.snap 446M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop6597.snap 454M /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop6639.snap Fedora Flatpak 443 MB Brave 278 MB Discord 540 MB OBS Studio 477 MB Element 17 MB TAP-plugins 19 MB SWH 675 MB Freedesktop Platform 538 MB Mesa 538 MB Mesa (Extra) 463 MB Mesa 463 MB Mesa (Extra) 30 MB FFmpeg extension with extra codecs 790 kB openh264 789 kB openh264 256 MB GNU Image Manipulation Program 8 MB HEIC 1 GB GNOME Application Platform version 48 275 MB Inkscape 20 MB Adwaita theme 926 MB KDE Application Platform 1 GB KDE Application Platform 25 MB QGnomePlatform 3 MB QAdwaitaDecorations 241 MB Kdenlive 282 MB Firefox 256 MB Telegram 124 MB Telegram Desktop Webview Add-on ``` 5.0GB MacOS 5.8GB Windows 6.6GB Flatpak 7.0GB Snap, ~6.0GB without old versions + compression 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Feedback VesuLabs via email Thanks for the feedback on AI bug reporting and Rust in the kernel. stephenreaves3205 via YouTube if they spin off Chrome, would they also spin off ChromeOS? Or maybe just rebrand it? * The roadmap for ChromeOS is to become Android (https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-becoming-android-3500661/) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time, Next Season🔭 We plan to cover more topics, feedback. Watch out for our return! Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * AI's Won't Take Over Yet * Is Rust Open Source? * and All Kinds of Feedback The Video Version https://youtu.be/LxMpNIfhFiA 0:00 Cold Open 3:56 Curl's "AI Slop" Problem 25:12 A Little Viral Licensing 42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️ 42:30 ukwan / Youtube 51:16 jliljj / Youtube 56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube 1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube 1:02:06 amanita / Patreon 1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube 1:09:35 The Rules, Commands & Next Time 1:19:12 Stinger The Curl project pushes back on AI slop The Ars Technica article (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/open-source-project-curl-is-sick-of-users-submitting-ai-slop-vulnerabilities/) The Curl project on Hacker One (https://hackerone.com/curl?type=team) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Is Rust opensource? Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a Stackoverflow post about C language. (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5099384/is-c-open-source) Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. license (https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/licenses) Over the years many CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel (https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33). Many of those involve memory corruption. 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Feedback ukwan from YouTube Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going. jliljj from YouTube I'd go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn. FredsTech1 from YouTube Asked about unattended upgrades. Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything. The Ubuntu Docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates) siljrath from YouTube I thought I signed up. Anyone know when thundermail happens? Conan Kudo In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don't have problems with Anaconda's hub-and-spoke model. Amanita from Patreon It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good. redvamp128 from YouTube You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned! 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey Leo's list of software obs-studio discord telegram element kdenlive gimp inkscape firefox brave Some commands to help check on sizes flatpak list --app --columns=size,name flatpaklist --column=size,name du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/* 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Extended service warranty for your Linux * 10,000 Tabs Made Easy! * A Chrome Firesale The Video Version (https://youtu.be/pTGaEsSA12I) https://youtu.be/pTGaEsSA12I 0:00 Cold Open 1:40 Extended Warranty for Ubuntu 17:36 Tab Groups and Unwanted Cookies 41:39 A Google Chrome Firesale! 58:33 The Science of Next Time 1:11:14 Stinger Upgrade or ESM? Why not both? This blog post (https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-20-04-eol-for-devicesional) reminded Leo he needed to make a decision. Ubuntu Pro (https://ubuntu.com/pro) could let him kick the can a little. Upgrades generally go well (https://documentation.ubuntu.com/server/how-to/software/upgrade-your-release/index.html) unless you have a bunch of 3rd party repos. Always have a backup (https://rescuezilla.com) before any major changes. 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Browser Watch! Firefox brings tab groups to the browser (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/tab-groups-community/) How to get started with tab groups (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-tab-groups/) Brave browser adds Cookiecrumbler (https://brave.com/privacy-updates/33-cookiecrumbler/) Brave adds native translation (https://brave.com/blog/brave-translate-expansion/) Chrome's Privacy Sandbox is dead (https://privacysandbox.com/news/privacy-sandbox-next-steps/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Chrome breakup speculation OpenAI has expressed an interest in taking over (https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/23/openai_chrome_interest/) Perplexity and Yahoo have too (https://9to5google.com/2025/04/25/google-chrome-openai-perplexity-yahoo-antitrust-case/) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey Inital systems have been setup. Leo and Dan won't necessarily be installing the same software though some may overlap. We will be keeping tabs on the sizes of just the containerized applications. 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics, feedback and a look in our Snap/Flatpak research. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Vibe Coding Coming to a Plasma Near You * We Need Another Standard * The Newest of the New 0:00 Cold Open 2:01 Weird Vibes in Qt-Land 21:51 Rust Is Inevitable 41:04 Fedora, Ubuntu and a Journey 1:08:25 Next Time 1:10:24 Stinger The Video Version (https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI) https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI What a Qt little AI? Qt Blog post (https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-ai-assistant-v0.9-released-deploy-llms-locally-and-enjoy-the-upgraded-user-experience) Phoronoix article (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qt-Increased-AI-Coding-Caps) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 We need another standard The XKCD cartoon (https://xkcd.com/927/) The ACM paper (https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3708553) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Ubuntu 25.04 and Fedora 42 Releases Ubuntu 25.04 and Official Flavors release Ubuntu Release Announcement (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-04-plucky-puffin-released/59303) Links to the Official Flavors release notes (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/plucky-puffin-release-notes/48687#heading--official-flavours) Fedora 42 and Spins release Fedora 42 Release Announcement (https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42/) Fedora Downloads (https://fedoraproject.org/#editions) Atomic Desktops (https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/) Spins (https://fedoraproject.org/spins) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover our exploration of the new releases. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * The Thunder rolls * We flatten out the History * And Package Up Our Experience 0:00 Cold Open 1:34 Thundermail for Everyone! 23:21 The History of Flatpak - 24:32 From Glick to Bundles - 29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app - 30:54 From Flatpak to the Future! 37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution? 1:02:46 Next Time 1:05:14 Stinger The Video Version (https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U) https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U Thundermail The Thundermail announcement (https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The history of flatpak packages Autopackage (https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/) Listaller (https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/) AppStream (https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/) The roots (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/) Klik (https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/) Rethinking the Linux distribution (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/) Flatpak 4 years in (https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/) Goodbye xdg-app, hello Flatpak (https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/) Initial Flatpak press release (https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/) KDE's Discover found its support of Flatpak (https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/) Firefox begins Flatpak builds (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59) OBS begins Flatpak builds too (https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/) Thunderbird gets official support (https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Extra Flatpak Resources https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/ https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/ https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920 https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/ https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/ https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/ https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics and feedback. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose LqLarry MarshMan GrouchyM Tim Super User A.J. Advait Amanita Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Oh GNOME! * Mozilla, Don't Watch * And a few high notes The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/FdHulOnBwEo) https://youtu.be/FdHulOnBwEo 0:00 Cold Open 1:07 Dash To Panel Needs Your Help! 27:21 Firefox's New Terms Of Use 51:33 Mark / Contact Button 1:00:34 Scott / Contact Button 1:03:22 Dan / Matrix 1:06:09 chraist / Matrix 1:08:07 bgt lover / Matrix 1:10:00 MarshMan / Discord 1:13:58 Next Time! 1:18:45 Stinger Dash to Panel Maintainer Quits Dash to panel maintainer quits (https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/14/dashtopanel_maintainer_quits/) The GitHub issue (https://github.com/home-sweet-gnome/dash-to-panel/issues/2259) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Mozilla Don't Watch The Terms (https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/terms/firefox/) The Blog (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/) The Linux Experiment and Ryan Sipes (https://tilvids.com/w/ssV7mEKnwhFfJhnxSWGCTk) The Update to the TOU (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/) The old FAQ (https://web.archive.org/web/20250130114707/https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/faq/) The new FAQ (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/faq/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Feedback Mark from Saigon Mark advocates for trying Snaps but understands they are not for everyone. He then dragged us into a merchandise tangent. Stay tuned for more on that. Scott via Fireside Scott uses Snaps on his Debian server. On the desktop he mostly sticks to Appimages and Flatpaks. Dan from Matrix Dan seldom uses Snaps and has them near the bottom of his ranking. The last one he remembers using is the Nextcloud snap on an Ubuntu server. chraist also on Matrix chraist uses Void and doesn't have Systemd therefore doesn't use Snaps. He asked if we thought there would ever be a Snap solution without Systemd. bgt from Matrix bgt says "meh, snaps aren't really that worth it to be honest. If there was no flatpak, sure, but like this, there's no need." Marshman from Discord Marshman thinks Snaps are a handy delivery method for proprietary applications. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover the history of Flatpaks. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Syncing the Notes * The History of Snaps * And How Much We Absolutely Adore Them 0:00 Cold Open 1:34 Seeking Syncthing 16:42 The History of Snaps 33:52 How'd 9 Years of Snaps Go? 1:01:54 Next Time 1:04:49 Stinger The Video Version https://youtu.be/izDzKkuEyRw It is all about the notes Leo goes back to basics and uses SyncThing (https://syncthing.net/) to move his markdown files around that he edits using a standard text editor (https://code.visualstudio.com/). 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The history of snap packages Ubuntu's convergence promise (https://web.archive.org/web/20160531204608/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/820). Click apps (https://click.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) Snappy Ubuntu (https://youtu.be/BlcTDz9ogug) Click apps and Snappy apps share update technology (https://web.archive.org/web/20141209165441/https://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1434). Snappy Ubuntu Core was available (https://techcrunch.com/2015/04/21/ubuntu-15-04-launches-with-support-for-openstack-kilo-new-lxd-hypervisor-and-snappy-core/) Snapcraft was released as version 2.0 (https://launchpad.net/snapcraft/+milestone/2.0). Snaps were now available (https://ubuntu.com/blog/snaps-for-classic-ubuntu) to everyone. Mozilla chimed in (https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2016/04/21/firefox-default-browser-for-linux-users-ubuntu-new-snap-format-coming-soon/) with their support. Snap expanded its compatibility to the likes of Arch (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/snap-to-be-universal-linux-package-format) and Fedora (https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/IMI5TP2K6A6R7PSIOUBLOE62ENIZDXOA/). xdg-app rebrands as Flatpak (https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/) as a Snap competitor. Unity 8 and Snaps were expected for 18.04 (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-17.04-Unity-8-Snaps-Talk) The backporting of Snaps to 14.04 (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/install-snap-apps-ubuntu-14-04) was a success. Fedora (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/use-snap-fedora) saw that promised Snap support land. Mark Shuttleworth made a game changing announcement (https://ubuntu.com/blog/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence). An effort (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/gnome-platform-snap-development) to slim down the size of Gnome apps succeeded. The first Snap-installed-by-default shipped (https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-17-10-will-ship-a-snap-by-default/15064) with Ubuntu MATE 17.10. The drumbeat of Snaps-installed-by-default got louder (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2018-February/040126.html). Mozilla authors their own Snap package (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/firefox-snap-package-available). Snap devs finally started their efforts (https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/03/28/snap-startup-time-improvements) to slim down the startup times. Canonical's announcement (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-chromium-browser-deb-to-snap-transition/11179) that Chromium would switch to a Snap. Linux Mint forges their own path (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3766). Additionally, they blocked (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906) the snapd backend. The dev team speeds startup times further (https://snapcraft.io/blog/snap-speed-improvements-with-new-compression-algorithm). Snaps killed (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-6.0-Coming) their 32-bit support. Mozilla Firefox would now also be snap-only (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default). The introduction of modularity (https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-future-of-snapcraft). More LZO compression (https://ubuntu.com//blog/kde-snaps-performance-revving-up) Mozilla Firefox improves (https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2) Ubuntu Flavors no longer seed the Flatpak backend (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default) More rumblings (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop) about the all snap Ubuntu. Those rumblings were squashed (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/ubuntu-core-desktop-delayed). Snap compatibility get stronger (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/canonical-wants-better-snap-support-outside-ubuntu-based-on-latest-hires/) KDE Plasma desktop sees Snap support (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.10-September). more drivers are Snapped (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snaps-Intel-NPU-Driver). Some exploits (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw) and maybe a few flaws (https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6940-2). 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Extra Snap Resources Click Apps (https://askubuntu.com/questions/337969/what-are-click-packages) Snappy Ubuntu! (https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212513/http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/) Snappy security (https://web.archive.org/web/20150122212810/https://penguindroppings.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/snappy-security/) It's a Snap (https://web.archive.org/web/20150207153458/http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/12/its-a-snap.html) Ubuntu 15.10 might have a Snappy Personal spin? (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap) Shortly after, Mozilla said Firefox will support the Snap package format (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/firefox-ubuntu-snap-package) Debs aren't going anywhere... (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-16.04-Snap-Deb) xdg-portal and snap collab? (https://www.phoronix.com/news/XDG-Desktop-Portal-Snapped) Snap store (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-Snap-Store-Start) Another Chromium push (https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition) LZO compression time (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Canonical-Snap-LZO) and (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/squashfs-performance-effect-on-snap-startup-time/13920) Snapcraft changes (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snapcraft-New-Modular) April - Ubuntu Won't Support Flatpak (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/ubuntu-wont-support-flatpak-anytime-soon) Mozilla's snap pushes back 22.04.1 (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-22.04.1-LTS-Delayed) Firefox Snap Performance part 1 (https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1) Firefox Snap Performance part 2 (https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2) 50% reduction in start time for Firefox Snap (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Snap-50p-Reduction) Flapak is out, Snap is still in (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default) An immutable Snap desktop? (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/cups-snap-ubuntu-23-10#comment-6196766355) and (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/05/immutable-all-snap-ubuntu-desktop) also (https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-core-desktop) Malicious Snap Apps (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Snap-Store-Malicious-Apps) Thunderbird (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/thunderbird-snap-in-ubuntu-24-04) Another Exploit (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/security-researchers-detail-ubuntu-security-flaw) And another? (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/ubuntu-will-manually-review-snap-store-after-crypto-wallet-scams/) Better Cross Distro Support (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Better-Cross-Distro-Snaps) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics and feedback. 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Coming up in this episode * We load up your tech toolbox * We settle the Kernel debate * and Thou shall not package OBS... that way. 0:00 Cold Open 1:39 We load up your tech toolbox 21:48 We settle the kernel debate 49:43 Thou shall not package OBS... that way. 1:03:32 Next Time 1:07:26 Stinger The Video Version (https://youtu.be/15zr84iGDHo) https://youtu.be/15zr84iGDHo IT-Tools (https://it-tools.tech/) Can be self hosted (https://github.com/CorentinTh/it-tools) Do you use IT-Tools? If so, which ones? If you don't, would you? 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Maintaining the Linux Kernel Rust for Linux project (https://rust-for-linux.com/) The controversial patch for more Rust driver support (https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/1/8/801). Wedson Filho called it quits (https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240828211117.9422-1-wedsonaf@gmail.com/) in August of 2024. Hector Martin (https://marcan.st/2025/02/resigning-as-asahi-linux-project-lead/) calls it quits for the Asahi Linux project on February 14, 2025. Karol Herbst (https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-February/046677.html) is another domino to fall February 15, 2025. Greg K-H's reply on the LKML (https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/2025021954-flaccid-pucker-f7d9@gregkh/) ArsTecnica article (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/linux-leaders-pave-a-path-for-rust-in-kernel-while-supporting-c-veterans/) Phoronix article (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Torvalds-Override-On-Rust-Code) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Thou shall not package OBS... that way. Fedora Pagure Issue (https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/463) Fedora Flatpak SIG issue - Gitlab (https://gitlab.com/fedora/sigs/flatpak/fedora-flatpaks/-/issues/39) Updated Fedora Council docs PR (https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/council-docs/pull-request/244) Gaming on Linux coverage (https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/fedora-threatened-with-legal-action-from-obs-studio-due-to-their-flatpak-packaging/) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics and feedback. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * HD scores a Homerun * Mozilla Launches Into Orbit * Stand by while Lemmy Stands by 0:00 Cold Open 3:00 HD Homerun out of the park 21:56 Mozilla Launches Into Orbit 50:10 Stuck on Lemmy 1:04:15 Next Time 1:08:13 Stinger The Video Version (https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4) https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4 HD Homerun out of the park Silicondust's HDHomerun (https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/) Jellyfin (https://jellyfin.org/) Plex (https://plex.tv) Tailscale (https://tailscale.com/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Mozilla Orbit Orbit by Mozilla (https://orbitbymozilla.com/) OMG Ubuntu (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/12/orbit-by-mozilla-ai-assistant-firefox-extension) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Stuck on Lemmy and Lemmy is stuck on us Dan broke it on upgrade, then restored it a few times and we are back on the old version. It is working though. Head over to the forum or User Space section (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum). We hope to post more things that are opinion rather than news. Give us some feedback on those so we can incorporate them into the show. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more topics and feedback. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * 2 be or y292B? * Set your watch to Mozilla * And we FINALLY get back to ya 0:00 Cold Open 2:35 libfuse2 & Y292B 15:09 Mozilla Alt Text & Layoffs 37:35 Pjolt on Thunderbird & iOS 45:20 Chris Recommends an Android 49:34 Chaos-r3v says it's FreeBSD 58:51 Stan Wonders: Mint or Ubuntu? 1:04:35 Next Time! 1:06:45 Stinger The Video Version! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0 Preshow If your podcatcher made you feel like you have deja vu for episode 5:04, you probably were correct. We had a little mixup on the upload. Just delete the bad episode and re-download. You can verify the episode here - https://linuxuserspace.show/504 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 🔥Warm Up🔥 Our Appimage video has outdated instructions. Ubuntu renamed the libfuse2 package to libfuse2t64. More information on the AppImageKit wiki page (https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/FUSE) about the correct Fuse packages for your distribution. 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Mozilla Watch Mozilla is using AI to help improve alt text generation (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/help-us-improve-our-alt-text-generation-model/) Mozilla announce a huge 30 percent layoff (https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/5/24289124/mozilla-foundation-layoffs-advocacy-global-programs) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Feedback Pjolt - Thunderbird for iOS? Thunderbird is in the roadmap for iOS (https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/thunderbird-for-iphone-and-ipad/idc-p/55779/highlight/true#M32691) Chris - Which Android device? The Pixel (https://swappa.com/buy/google-pixel-7a) has Chris's vote. Chaos-r3v - Juniper Network switches At least under the hood Junos OS is based on FreeBSD (https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/junos-install-upgrade/topics/topic-map/junos-os-overview.html) Stan - Multiple Operating Systems on the same hardware It is posssible to dualboot Ubuntu (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot) and Linux Mint (https://www.learnlinux.tv/how-to-dual-boot-windows-11-linux-mint-step-by-step-guide/) or just about any Linux distribution. As far as which distribution is best, that really depends on you and what works best in your mind. 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover the history episode of Snap Packages (https://snapcraft.io/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Matt M. Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Style it Like it's 1999 * It Violates Freedom 0! * We Turn it off and on again * and You Can Send it to LUS! 0:00 Cold Open 2:10 Going Back to 1999 23:32 Bitwarden Says "BOO!" 39:11 Turn It Off and On Again 56:02 The Windows Cliff 1:16:41 Next Time! 1:20:05 Stinger And the video version! (https://youtu.be/wXODmWq9ZZU) https://youtu.be/wXODmWq9ZZU Warm Up How to make a web page? CSS (https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS/#css) and HTML? (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/) A static site generator like Jekyll (https://jekyllrb.com) or Hugo? (https://gohugo.io) A CMS like Drupal (https://www.drupal.org) or Joomla? (https://www.joomla.org) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Bitwarden gives a scare The issue (https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/issues/11611) Whoopsie Doodle (https://x.com/Bitwarden/status/1848135725663076446) Bitwarden License FAQ (https://github.com/bitwarden/server/blob/main/LICENSE_FAQ.md) Bitwarden SDK License (https://github.com/bitwarden/sdk/blob/main/LICENSE) It violates freedom 0! (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html) After we recorded there was further news. (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Bitwarden-Code-Cleared-Up) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Turn it off and back on again NSA has some advice for you (https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21018353/nsa-mobile-device-best-practices.pdf) The Forbes take (https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2024/10/22/nsa-tells-iphone-and-android-users-reboot-your-device-now/) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Your PC is no good, send it to LUS The Windows 10 cliff (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/lots-of-pcs-are-poised-to-fall-off-the-windows-10-update-cliff-one-year-from-today/) What should people do? Send us your feedback! (https://linuxuserspace.show/contact) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more feedback and topics. Our next history episode will be on Snap Packages (https://snapcraft.io/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * The Archive Gets Downed * Thunderbird Goes Mobile * and the Oriole Takes Flight 0:00 Cold Open 1:44 Panic at the Archive! 20:00 Thunderbird's On Android 43:11 Ubuntu's Out, We're In 1:05:15 Next Time 1:08:18 Stinger The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI) https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI Warm Up The Internet Archive suffers a DDoS attack and breach (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-archive-hacked-data-breach-impacts-31-million-users/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Thunderbird for Android The Beta announcement (https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/09/help-us-test-the-thunderbird-for-android-beta/) arsTechnica article (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/thunderbird-android-client-is-k-9-mail-reborn-and-its-in-solid-beta/) The Register article (https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/09/thunderbird_for_android_beta/?td=rt-3a) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Ubuntu and flavors release 24.10 Ubuntu (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-ubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole) Kubuntu (https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/) Lubuntu (https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/) Ubuntu Budgie (https://ubuntubudgie.org/2024/10/ubuntu-budgie-24-10-release-notes/) Ubuntu Mate (https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-oracular-oriole-release-notes/) Edubuntu (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/edubuntu-24-10-released/48647) Ubuntu Studio (https://ubuntustudio.org/2024/10/ubuntu-studio-24-10-released/) Ubuntu Cinnamon (https://ubuntucinnamon.org/?p=1348) Ubuntu Unity (https://ubuntuunity.org/posts/ubuntu-unity-2410-released/) Ubuntu Kylin (https://www.ubuntukylin.com/news/ubuntukylin2410-en.html) Xubuntu (https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-24-10-released/) Canonical's new Kernel selection policy explained (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/08/canonical-announce-major-ubuntu-kernel-change) Stay tuned, Fedora 41 is coming soon (https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-all-tasks.html) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover the history of Snap Packages (https://snapcraft.io/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode * Another browser watch * The History of Linux Mint and Cinnamon * And how spiced was it? 0:00 Cold Open 1:26 The Mozilla Happenings 22:13 Linux Mint & Cinnamon History 26:54 The Early Mints 32:46 Cinnamon Arrives! 38:49 The Mint and Cinnamon Journey 49:53 Our Spicy Cinnamon Journeys 1:16:44 Next Time! 1:20:09 Stinger The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/ZK9mn5miMPM) https://youtu.be/ZK9mn5miMPM Warm Up Mozilla got a new logo (https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/24/24253028/mozilla-brand-update-tyrannosaurus-rex-logo). Mozilla dot Social is dead on December 17th (https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/18/24248142/mozilla-will-shut-down-its-mastodon-server-on-december-17th). 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of Cinnamon A new distro release (https://web.archive.org/web/20061019115016/http://linuxmint.com/content/blogsection/9/55/) Three months later (https://web.archive.org/web/20061210132202/http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/news.html) Version 2.0 of Linux Mint (https://web.archive.org/web/20061208052311/http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/20061113.html) Bea, version 2.1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20061209094505/http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/20061201.html) Bianca, version 2.2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20070708184233/http://linuxmint.com/) Mint's very own package manager 'apt' which is not-the-same-as-the-apt-you-know (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=68) Lisa, version 12 (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1889) Maya, version 13 (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2031) Cinnamon 1.1.2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20120920015647/http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=53) Nemo was forked from Nautilus, Gnome's file manager (https://web.archive.org/web/20120905232228/http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=198) Cinnamon 2.2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20150418060752/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2014/04/cinnamon-2-2) Cinnamon 2.4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20150329002036/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2014/11/cinnamon-2-4/) Nemo got a plugin manager (https://web.archive.org/web/20150729143250/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2015/06/cinnamon-2-6/). Cinnamon 2.8, gained a power applet (https://web.archive.org/web/20151129213516/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2015/11/cinnamon-2-8-released/) Apps written by the Mint team for... everything (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2985) Cinnamon 3.0 was released (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3026) Better touchpad support, more animations and better window management. (https://web.archive.org/web/20161008034617/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2016/04/cinnamon-3-0-released/) Plugins that Cinnamon could use were called Spices (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3094) Cinnamon 3.4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20170708083908/http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_sonya_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) Cinnamon 3.6 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180401182007/https://linuxmint.com/rel_sylvia_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) Cinnamon 4.0 (https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_tessa_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) Cinnamon 5.0 (https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_uma_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) "Thingy" (https://github.com/linuxmint/thingy) Cinnamon 6.0 with experimental Wayland (https://9to5linux.com/cinnamon-6-0-desktop-environment-arrives-with-initial-wayland-support) Cinnamon 6.4 will end up with a much needed facelift. 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Our next history episode will be Snap Packages (https://snapcraft.io/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Death & Taxes * Stop Filing Bug Reports! -- like that * and Your Emails! 0:00 Cold Open 1:25 Yubikeys are DEAD! 10:41 Deep In the Heart of Ptyxis 28:01 The Do's and Don'ts of Bug Reports 42:47 Email: Scott J 49:47 Email: Ben 52:49 Email: Bruce H 57:48 Email: Rob Simmons 1:03:22 Email: DailyDriver 1:04:24 Email: J 1:08:34 Pnext Time 1:10:17 Pstinger See the Video on Youtube (https://youtu.be/jWSVnDYeEe4)! https://youtu.be/jWSVnDYeEe4 Your Yubikey is DEAD! The Yubico advisory (https://www.yubico.com/support/security-advisories/ysa-2024-03/) arsTechnica coverage (https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/09/yubikeys-are-vulnerable-to-cloning-attacks-thanks-to-newly-discovered-side-channel/) The really deep dive details (https://ninjalab.io/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/20240903_eucleak.pdf) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Ptyxis? Accessibility in Ptyxis (https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2024/02/29/accessibility-in-ptyxis/) Fedora workstation (Gnome) will switch for F41. (https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/417) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum). How to ask for help. (Social Soapbox) Dan's blog post (https://www.linuxuserspace.show/articles/how-to-ask-for-help). Article written by Simon Tatham (https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html). Lubuntu wiki page (https://git.lubuntu.me/lubuntu-wiki/wiki/wiki/Bugs) about submitting bugs. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Feedback Scott J., Email Scott likes the Beelink with the Ryzen7 5800H (https://www.bee-link.com/products/beelink-ser5-max-5800h). Ben, Email Ben recommends Readeck (https://readeck.org/en/). Bruce, Email Bruce likes the Opera Browser (https://www.opera.com/). Rob Simmons, Email Rob found a great operating system for his old Chromebook, Lubuntu (https://lubuntu.me). Dan thinks that is good choice too. Like Leo, Rob prefers email too. And yes, he is a Simmons ;). Daily Driver, Email DD wants to promote a couple of hidden gem distros. Crunchbangplusplus (https://www.crunchbangplusplus.org/) Bunsenlabs (https://www.bunsenlabs.org/) https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/31/crunchbangversusbunsen_labs/ https://www.infoworld.com/article/2243143/the-death-of-crunchbang-linux.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrunchBang_Linux J, Email J would like some notes, guides and configurations for Wireguard. Stay tuned to our blog (https://www.linuxuserspace.show/articles/). We will try to get something posted. 🔭Next Time🔭 Our first history episode of the season will be Cinnamon Desktop Environment (https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon). Come back for more Linux User Space in two weeks. Watch for our livestream announcements in between episodes. Stay tuned📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord and now Bluesky or whatever platform you prefer. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Do you think Larry uses Firefox? * The Compiled History of Gentoo * and How we emerged from the year long journey 0:00 Cold Open 2:44 Mozilla Watch! 24:59 Gentoo - The Early Years 30:30 Gentoo - 1.0 And Beyond 35:20 Gentoo - 2007 to 2014 39:56 Gentoo - 2015 to the Present 45:37 The ENTIRE Gentoo Journey 1:20:49 Next Season? 1:24:52 Stinger The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c) https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c Mozilla Watch Mozilla recently announced some planned improvements (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-on-in-firefox/). 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of Gentoo Stampede Linux (https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2937) When a system emerged, it was called Enoch (https://web.archive.org/web/20051126223839/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p1.xml) Making a Distro part 2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20051118195918/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p2.xml) Sustainability of the project had made its way to the forefront (https://web.archive.org/web/20051126225230/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p3.xml). Gentoo website ~August 2001 (https://web.archive.org/web/20010924064822/http://gentoo.org:80/) March 3 2002 (https://web.archive.org/web/20020328041905/http://www.gentoo.org/) public facing movement was easily spotted. March 31 2002 (https://web.archive.org/web/20020604061411/http://gentoo.org/news/20020331-gentoo.html), 1.0 was finally released! The huge influx of new users it encouraged caused bandwidth issues for Gentoo (https://web.archive.org/web/20020604025327/http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-announce/2002-May/000161.html). August of 2003, 1.4 was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20031207075713/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030811-newsletter.xml). Full installation could be completed in under an hour! (https://forums.gentoo.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=110077&sid=55086929168089cbbb9dcdac1cec05ec) 2004, marked a change (https://web.archive.org/web/20031204134123/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/index.xml) from the dot releases. 2004.0 released February 28, 2004 (https://web.archive.org/web/20040610161340/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.0/releng/2004.0-press-release.txt). Daniel Robbins, the creator and founder, resigns from Gentoo (https://web.archive.org/web/20040501110844/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20040426-drobbins.xml). Despite that work continued. 2004.1 was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20141224104108/http://www.gentoo.org//proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2-press-release.txt) shortly after that news, dot 2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20040803014434/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2.xml) in July and dot 3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20101223035338/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20041115-newsletter.xml) in November. September 2005, the first Gentoo Council was elected (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council). Daniel Robbins makes his glorious return (https://lwn.net/Articles/224082/) to the project! This lasted about 8 days before he resigned again (https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070312#future). Other developers joined Robbins (https://www.linux.com/news/gentoo-attempts-deal-developer-conflicts/). Stability questions around the stability of the Gentoo Project (https://youtu.be/-ZSli7QW4rg) October 2009, a LiveDVD release (https://web.archive.org/web/20141222231552/https://www.gentoo.org/news/20091004-gentoo-10-years.xml). 11.0, released in 2011 (https://web.archive.org/web/20141222015352/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20110308-livedvd.xml). In 2015 A new website was announced (https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html#old-april-fools-day-announcement)! After the air was cleared, an actual NEW website (https://web.archive.org/web/20150502115556/https://www.gentoo.org/). In 2016, Gentoo Choice Edition (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160514). Then in July, Choice Edition Part Dos (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160704). word crimes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc) In 2017, 17.0 in November (https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html) and an experimental 17.1 in December (https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html). An issue on Github (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/Incident_reports/2018-06-28_Github) in 2018. 2019 saw the 17.1 profiles finally stabilize (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2019-06-05-amd64-17-1-profiles-are-now-stable.html). In 2021, the addition of 20.0 profiles were released (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-06-20-riscv-20-profile-migration.html). Genchu (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401215506/https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/04/01/genchu.html) Wallpaper1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174243/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_01.jpg) Wallpaper2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401222127/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_02.jpg) Wallpaper3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174337/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_03.jpg) Wallpaper4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174404/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_04.jpg) Precompiled binaries for more packages were announced (https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html?ref=news.itsfoss.com). March of 2024, profile version 23.0 (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2024-03-22-new-23-profiles.html). Michał Górny notes (https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2024/05/30/the-dead-weight-of-packages-in-gentoo/) in his blog a few days before recording here that Gentoo has a problem. 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Coming up in this episode * We want to be the hosts with the most (compute) * Use Passkeys, (PASS!!!!) * ed, notes, the Linux Wars and AI in the feedback 0:00 Cold Open 1:43 Which Mini PC Do We Buy? 23:21 Time to Use Passkeys! 55:03 greenthumbs Feedback 58:00 Scott Feedback 1:01:32 Dave Feedback 1:08:29 n.m Feedback 1:14:05 kynize Feedback 1:25:53 Next Time 1:32:02 Stinger The video version! (https://youtu.be/C76WdhM2_kM) https://youtu.be/C76WdhM2_kM 🤏Micro Mini Compute Machines💻 Can we expand our server farm with one of these? (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Beelink/page/E76F7A4A-070E-428C-9129-832B18C1493F) Or, maybe one of the higher end units is a nice recording system? Quiet is the name of the game for that. What else is there that you recommend? 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 🔑Passkeys🔐 Google Overview of Passkeys (https://developers.google.com/identity/passkeys) What are Passkeys? - Tom's Guide (https://www.tomsguide.com/news/what-are-passkeys) Passkeys: What They Are and Why You Need Them ASAP - PCMag (https://www.pcmag.com/explainers/passwordless-authentication-what-it-is-and-why-you-need-it-asap) FIDO Alliance - Passkeys (https://fidoalliance.org/passkeys/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) 📯Reverb Focus📢 Greenthumbs Commented on our E.D. History video (https://youtu.be/yUCuzkKGHos). :heart: Scott via Email If you read the directions 😉 (https://www.qownnotes.org/getting-started/qownnotesapi.html), they tell you the API doesn't handle the sync. You have to sync your folders with the Nextcloud client. Dave from Discord How could one share a Passkey with a team? Dan thinks Bitwarden (https://bitwarden.com/help/storing-passkeys/) might be the answer. n.m on the Year of The Linux Desktop Maybe? Most importantly, it should be the Year of Linux for you. The Livestream playback now has timestamps! (https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1) kynize wants to know if AI will make the desktop faster It seems unlikely that AI will use less resources. With dedicated hardware we might not notice (https://www.techradar.com/computing/cpu/what-is-an-npu). It does aim to make the user experience better though. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to explore the history of Gentoo (https://www.gentoo.org/) in our season finale. What is in store for next season? Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose Tim GrouchyM Pjol Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * Does it do Passkeys tho? * So What Happened to Xz anyway? * How do we fix the internet? The Video Version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3bN3PRmHJY) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3bN3PRmHJY Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 1:36 Amazingly Self-Hosted 34:13 The History of Xz and the Hack*! 49:58 How to Fix Open Source 1:15:56 Next Time 1:20:42 Stinger 💻Self Hosting and Passkeys🔑 Audiobookshelf (https://www.audiobookshelf.org/) Immich (https://immich.app/) Tailscale (https://tailscale.com/) What are Passkeys - Tom's Guide (https://www.tomsguide.com/news/what-are-passkeys) Passkeys - FIDO Alliance (https://fidoalliance.org/passkeys/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 📖The History of XZ🦜 LZMA (https://web.archive.org/web/20121109182343/http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/forums/forum/45797/topic/1025556) Andrey Markov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_chain) LZ77 and LZ78 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ77_and_LZ78) 7zip history (https://7-zip.org/history.txt) Slackels (https://web.archive.org/web/20060202151612/https://tukaani.org/) LZMA in the form of the GCC compiled LZMA SDK (https://web.archive.org/web/20060213143853/http://tukaani.org/lzma/history) Tukanni Linux Project was officially gone (https://web.archive.org/web/20071011030325/http://tukaani.org/) LZMA Utils was left behind (https://web.archive.org/web/20090830051503/http://tukaani.org:80/xz) in favor of the similarly LZMA-backed Xz Utils. version 5.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20101201065849/http://tukaani.org/xz/) is the transition from LZMA to XZ. Some distributions would eventually migrate to using Z Standard compression, including Arch (https://archlinux.org/news/now-using-zstandard-instead-of-xz-for-package-compression/) in 2019 and Fedora (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Switch_RPMs_to_zstd_compression) and Ubuntu would make the switch in 2020. A new face, Jigar Kumar, shows up (https://www.mail-archive.com/xz-devel@tukaani.org/msg00565.html). January 7th, 2023, Jia Tan was finally able to merge their own commits (https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz/pull/7) to Xz on Github. Jia tries to convince (https://github.com/google/oss-fuzz/pull/10667) the OSS-Fuzz team to accept a patch that disabled Indrect Function. Adding the test files (https://git.tukaani.org/?p=xz.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf44e4b7f5dfdbf8c78aef377c10f71e274f63c0) which weren't test files at all. Andres Freund's Mastodon post (https://mastodon.social/@AndresFreundTec/112180083704606941) On April 2nd, 2024, Collin adds a page to his tukaani.org (https://tukaani.org/xz-backdoor/) domain. 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) ⚒️How To Fix Open Source🛠️ Heartbleed (https://heartbleed.com/) I'm not a supplier (https://www.softwaremaxims.com/blog/not-a-supplier) XKCD 2347 (https://xkcd.com/2347/) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to explore your feedback and some other topics. Our final history episode of the season will be Gentoo (https://www.gentoo.org/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose Tim GrouchyM Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick pjol sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * We put a hat on AI * The SecureBlue/ublue thing * The UNIX Wars part deux 0:00 Cold Open 1:49 Artificial Fedora 28:35 The ImmutaBlues 54:01 Feedback 55:20 Tane on Notes and Unix 59:28 Ian on Unix 1:02:33 Chris on Notes and Sync 1:10:22 A Quick Release Update 1:14:41 Next Time 1:18:03 Stinger The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU) https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU Support us here! (https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace) https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace AI dons a hat 🤖🎩 Matthew Miller on AI in Fedora (https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/strategy-2028-april-2024-update/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Course correction on Secureblue We messed up but RoyalOughtness (https://github.com/qoijjj), the creator of Secureblue, set us straight. Atomic Fedora is the start of the pipeline: (https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/how-to-rebase-to-universal-blues-base-images/868) xkbcat (https://github.com/anko/xkbcat) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Reverb Focus Tane via Email Tane uses Nextcloud Notes (https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/notes) Also Iotas (https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/iotas) Unix Wars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars) The terms of the Open Group (Open Group https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html) Current Open Group members (https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/) Ian via email BSD, AIX, HP-UX and similar are all as UNIX as you can get these days. They started out as licensed UNIX Operating Systems with a direct IP license from AT&T and passed whatever requirements AT&T had at the time. Chris via email Obsidian (https://obsidian.md/) is not FOSS. Logseq (https://logseq.com/) is overwhelming at first but good now. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to explore and provide the history of XZ Utils (https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim GrouchyM Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jeff3ix Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick pjol sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * Themes Are More Global Than You Think * Kdenlive Does Some Layering * The History of LXDE * To Qt, or not to Qt? * Then, we call an audible 0:00 Cold Open 2:17 Theme of the Crop 16:22 The Lost Edit 28:11 The History of LXDE 55:51 How'd LXQt and LXDE Go? 1:24:28 Next Time 1:31:13 Stinger The Video Version https://youtu.be/Y8_rMTmnIXc 🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop KDE's Attack Surface? Hackaday coverage (https://hackaday.com/2024/03/25/user-beware-the-fine-line-between-content-and-code/) The Reddit Post (https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1bixmbx/do_not_install_global_themes_some_wipe_out_all/) Kdenlive gave Leo a hard time 24.02.0 (https://kdenlive.org/en/2024/03/kdenlive-24-02-0-released/) was hot off the press and Leo couldn't resist. Thankfully 24.02.1 (https://kdenlive.org/en/2024/03/kdenlive-24-02-1-released/) followed to hopefully resolve the issues. 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of LXDE (and some LXQt) The LXDE mailing list goes back to 2008 (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/lxde-list/) Ubuntu Lite (https://web.archive.org/web/20071213180659/http://ubuntulite.https://web.archive.org/web/20090126190042/http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5187661383.htmltuxfamily.org/?q=node/5) later known as U-lite commited (https://web.archive.org/web/20071213180659/http://ubuntulite.tuxfamily.org/?q=node/5) to using LXDE. DesktopLinux.com coverage (https://web.archive.org/web/20090207075132/http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7428727466.html) Elemental Linux, MoonOS and WattOS followed with a commitment (https://web.archive.org/web/20120427050611/http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu) A PCManFM review from 2008 (https://web.archive.org/web/20220119114409/https://vivapinkfloyd.blogspot.com/2008/07/pcman-file-manager-045-review.html) The blog appears (https://blog.lxde.org/page/27/) December 2008 status update (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/12/10/recent-status-of-lxde/) Sidux adds an unofficial LXDE flavor (https://web.archive.org/web/20080929014208/http://cap.gediam.de/index-en.htm) Mandriva adds LXDE (https://web.archive.org/web/20081005023344/http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Tour#LXDE) Fedora too (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/11/13/fedora-10-with-lxde/) LXDE Translation project (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/12/14/lxde-translation-project/) PCMan asks the community for feedback (https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=456) FOSDEM 2009 (https://www.slideshare.net/mariobehling/lxde-presentation-at-fosdem-2009?type=presentation) Lubuntu enters the chat (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/02/05/lubuntu-lxde-meet-up-with-mark-shuttleworth-in-berlin) LXDE on android phones (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/02/23/lxde-running-on-android-phones/) LXDE on Solaris (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/03/21/lxde-on-opensolaris/) LXDE in Centos (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/05/04/lxde-in-centos/) PCLXDE (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/08/06/pclxde/) First Lubuntu test ISO (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/08/31/first-lubuntu-test-iso-available/) Fedora success (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/12/15/huge-success-of-the-fedora-12-lxde-spin/) OpenSUSE status update (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/03/01/opensuse-lxde-development-status/) Refactor time (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/02/21/pcmanfm-0-9-alpha-is-released/) Rewrite, and make it faster (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/03/19/the-first-beta-release-of-new-pcmanfmlibfm/) Movable desktop icons (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/10/05/desktop-icons-of-pcmanfm-becomes-movable/) LXDE becomes an available Debian desktop (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopInLenny) A Qt port begins (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/02/19/pcmanfm-file-manager-is-ported-to-qt/) Diverse paths (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/03/26/pcmanfm-qt-0-1-0-released/) PCMan develops a "Guide for Migrating from Gtk+ to Qt" (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/04/25/a-guide-for-porting-gtk-applications-to-qt/) LXDE-QT preview (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/07/03/lxde-qt-preview/) Razor-Qt (https://www.pcworld.com/article/461673/five-reasons-to-try-the-new-razor-qt-linux-desktop.html) PCMan had this to say about Razor-Qt (https://groups.google.com/g/razor-qt/c/aRfqM_W_ODQ) A merger of LXDE-Qt and Razor-Qt (https://blog.lxde.org/?p=1046) LXDE-Qt is not bloated (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/07/05/no-lxde-qt-is-not-bloated/) PCManFM-Qt was in a usable state (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/03/23/pcmanfm-qt-reaches-a-quite-usable-state/) LXQt alpha is announced (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/04/27/the-first-alpha-release-of-lxde-qt-or-lxqt-is-in-preparation/) shortly after it was announced (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32310545/). Initial FreeBSD support (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/05/09/lxqt-got-initial-freebsd-support/) for LXQt Comparing Numbers (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/05/09/some-numbers-about-lxqt-for-those-who-are-curious/) LXQt got “full” Qt5 support (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/06/29/lxqt-now-has-full-qt5-support/) LXQt 0.8 released (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/) LXDE is still going (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/11/18/status-update-for-lxde/) We say goodbye (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/11/21/in-memory-of-razor-qt/) to Razor-qt The 0.9 release was caught on snags (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/33285634/) but eventually released (https://web.archive.org/web/20160113173328/http://lxqt.org/release/2015/02/08/release-0-9-0/) LXQt 0.10 followed (https://web.archive.org/web/20160112231402/https://lxqt.org/release/2015/11/02/release-0-10-0/) LXQt 0.11 released (https://web.archive.org/web/20161121064047/http://lxqt.org/release/2016/09/24/lxqt-011-et-al/) More stats (https://blog.lxde.org/2016/10/04/benchmark-memory-usage-lxqt-desktop-environment-vs-xfce/) LXQt 0.12.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20171030182926/http://lxqt.org/release/2017/10/21/lxqt-0120/) LXQt 0.13.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20190522094012/https://lxqt.org/release/2018/05/21/lxqt-0130/) The end for GTK 2 (https://blog.gtk.org/2020/12/16/gtk-4-0/) Debian, at the time, set the death date (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/11/msg00570.html) GTK 3 would end up being the target for LXDE (https://archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/lxde-gtk3/) LXQt 0.17 (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/releases/tag/0.17.0) LXQt 1.0.0 was released! (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/releases/tag/1.0.0) LXDE diehards are still keeping things alive for LXDE (https://github.com/lxde) LXQt 2.0 is planned to release in the usual April slot (https://lxqt-project.org/blog/2024/02/15/qt-6-and-wayland/) Speaking of Wayland (https://lxqt-project.org/blog/2024/04/09/wayland_faq/) Quick LXQt History (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/wiki/History) More 📣Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is Xz (https://tukaani.org/xz/). Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim GrouchyM Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * Telemetry helps us all * Immutability blues * A correction or two * And more feedback 📽️The video version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y04YTkEC5Y 0:00 Cold Open 1:34 The GOOD Telemetry 23:33 Gnome Classic & Friends 31:16 The Incredible Immutables 44:00 A Slight Correction 50:25 A Little Backstory 59:24 mintCast, CKP, FCWN & DHD 1:02:31 So Lightweight! 1:10:23 Another Dive into Notes 1:21:48 Fix GRUB, Add Color 1:29:49 Next Time 1:31:58 Stinger 🔥Warm up🔥 Dan Johansen in Matrix pkgstats (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pkgstats) Fun Stats (https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/fun) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Fragmentation? Not on My Watch! Muesli from Matrix * Gnome Classic (https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/gnome-classic.html.en) * Is it healthy co-opetition or fragmentation? Let us know. * Secureblue (https://github.com/secureblue/secureblue) * beginning of the year (https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/secureblue-immutable-fedora-hardening/16086) * BlueBuild (https://blue-build.org/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) A quick correction jensmander1223 on Youtube OpenIndiana is Unix-Like but it's own thing (https://docs.openindiana.org/misc/openindiana/) The history of Dan and Leo visamp from Matrix Leo and Dan both did Linux Spotlight Episodes with our former co-host Rocco. Dan's episode (https://youtu.be/r5WYun6PVYc) and Leo's (https://youtu.be/rSQpy0LzNLw) We plan to drop some more tidbits in the not too distant future. Peter Jones Thanks for the support and for listening. Mintcast (https://mintcast.org) Crowbar Kernel Panic (http://crowbarkernelpanic.com) Full Circle Weekly (https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcasts/) Emiliano from Argentina Thanks for the message, the Spanish test and the support. QOwnNotes & Joplin Scott * Scott recommends QOwnNotes (https://www.qownnotes.org) and not Joplin (https://joplinapp.org). Another Vote for Obsidian. Then Anki, RemNote and LogSeq DesertDoug Doug searched long and hard recently for a note taking app too. Doug bumped into Obsidian (https://obsidian.md/), Anki (https://apps.ankiweb.net/), RemNote (https://www.remnote.com/) and Logseq (https://logseq.com/). 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Gentoo Focus Jensmander1223 sent some tips to help Dan with his bootloader issue. Dan will continue to keep working on that. Jensmander also sent along the tip to use colordiff (https://github.com/daveewart/colordiff) which can highlight differences when changing config files. We plan to go over a few of these on an upcoming livestream (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch). 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to explore and provide the history of LXDE Desktop Environment (https://www.lxde.org). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim GrouchyM Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jeff3ix Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick pjol sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias