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because my name is on the author DouglasSmith66 (talk) 08:52, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: User requested deletion of recently uploaded file. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:51, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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because my name is on the author DouglasSmith66 (talk) 08:52, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: User requested deletion of recently uploaded file. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:51, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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out of scope AndreasPraefcke (talk) 13:52, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Will delete this as part of upload cleanup russavia (talk) 13:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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out of scope AndreasPraefcke (talk) 14:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Will delete this as part of upload clean up russavia (talk) 14:11, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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out of scope AndreasPraefcke (talk) 14:11, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Delete as part of cleanup russavia (talk) 14:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Because the location isn't specified and it's unclear whether the Flickr photographer was the original painter, we don't know if Freedom of Panorama is applicable or not. De728631 (talk) 15:10, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: It is in Sarasota, delete as part of cleanup russavia (talk) 15:16, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It appears to be a screenshot of a television programme. Jespinos (talk) 02:29, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Very obviously a screenshot. Not allowed here MichaelMaggs (talk) 16:18, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Incorrect license and date. Unsure if the author (signature in the lower right corner) died more than 70 years ago. Leyo 17:41, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Signature in lower left maybe? Here's an index entry for the lithograph, giving one of the creator's names as fr:Fortuné Méaulle, which is consistent with the visible signature looking like "F.Meaulle", and the other as fr:Henri Meyer, who both died >70 years ago. The licensing is incorrect and the sourcing deficient on our file page. DMacks (talk) 04:41, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn. Thanks for your investigations. I adapted the description page accordingly. BTW: There seems to be a signature in each of the two lower corners. --Leyo 07:44, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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This poses a COM:IDENT problem in that the person is clearly in a "private" place (that being a van). Additionally, there is an obvious scope issue; in that it isn't exhibitionism per se, but rather a girl flashing her boobs in the aforementioned private setting amongst friends. russavia (talk) 13:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Comment When I looked at this photo, at first I thought that the girl had her breasts exposed possibly without her permission. This would be enough in my mind to delete the image on the spot. However, after looking at other photos in the set, it is obvious it is a group of friends having a good time in the back of a cab. The reason for bringing this to DR is partly to demonstrate that we can not, and should not, treat all images on this project the same. We need to use common sense and look at each image individually on its merits, rather than nuke all images on the spot. russavia (talk) 13:42, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete - dubious scope and private setting. -mattbuck (Talk) 13:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Speedy deleting as this definitely needs the subject's consent MichaelMaggs (talk) 16:16, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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tourist shot, out of scope AndreasPraefcke (talk) 13:56, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: This is already queued for deletion. I'll delete it as part of cleanup russavia (talk) 14:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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neaktuální Valmont (talk) 20:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: "Outdated" is not a reason to delete.      Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 22:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Vladimír_Vávra.jpg

žádost autora Valmont (talk) 19:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: no valid reason given. --Denniss (talk) 02:48, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Reduntant image. Better focused and similar image is here. Kulmalukko (talk) 18:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Denniss (talk) 20:23, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Reduntant, similar to this one. Kulmalukko (talk) 18:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Denniss (talk) 20:23, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Gchompski (talk · contribs)

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Possible copyvios, out of scope too.

Jespinos (talk) 01:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Taivo (talk) 09:46, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: out of scope Julo (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused personal photo, out of scope, bad file name Mjrmtg (talk) 11:21, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused personal image, bad file name Taivo (talk) 08:02, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok delete--Sailko (talk) 08:08, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused personal image, bad quality, bad name, the uploader's only contribution Taivo (talk) 08:10, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused personal image, bad quality, bad file name Taivo (talk) 08:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused personal photo, bad quality, bad file name, the uploader's only contribution Taivo (talk) 08:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused personal image, bad quality Taivo (talk) 08:57, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your kidding me right? I'm using it.7mike5000 (talk) 16:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I like the quality. I believe it looks absolutely fantastic actually.

 I withdraw my nomination OK, you added the image on your userpage and now there is no need to delete. Taivo (talk) 12:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: INeverCry 00:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, unused personal image. Jespinos (talk) 17:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlikely to be own work. Note that uploader claims to be the subject. One other image uplaoded, also has been contested. Must suplply OTRS permission to keep Sphilbrick (talk) 14:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:42, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, unused personal image. Jespinos (talk) 01:37, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Taivo (talk) 09:37, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, unused personal image. Jespinos (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Watermarks suggest that the image is likely not own work. Jespinos (talk) 01:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Agree with OP, clearly identified with Honda watermark and copyright notice--Sphilbrick (talk) 13:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I made a mistake in the upload. Mkg215 (talk) 07:06, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Promo photo published elsewhere on the web prior to being uploaded to Commons (e.g. [1], [2]), no evidence that the uploader is the rights holder as claimed. HaeB (talk) 03:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:37, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence uploader is the copyright holder. Jespinos (talk) 17:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Low resolution and missing EXIF. Unlikely to be own work. Jespinos (talk) 02:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:36, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, unused personal image. Jespinos (talk) 22:06, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 01:05, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Low resolution and no valid EXIF. Unlikely to be own work. Jespinos (talk) 17:43, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:26, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, unused personal image. Jespinos (talk) 02:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Derived from our SVG, see file name. Fry1989 eh? 20:04, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unclear who this is, out of scope AndreasPraefcke (talk) 13:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:41, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of Commons:Project scope: Unused trivial logo. EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:04, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:53, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, unused personal image. Jespinos (talk) 02:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Identical image on en.wp uploaded by same user. Deleted there as not claimed as own work when uploaded but not evidence of permission forthcoming Nthep (talk) 20:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Low resolution and missing EXIF. Unlikely to be own work. Jespinos (talk) 18:14, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:55, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, unused personal image. Jespinos (talk) 18:15, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:55, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope, unused personal image. Jespinos (talk) 18:16, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:55, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:21, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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personal photo, out of scope Mjrmtg (talk) 23:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 01:05, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It appears to be a screenshot of a television programme. Jespinos (talk) 22:49, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 01:05, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:26, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Commons:Derivative works Polarlys (talk) 19:26, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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не соответствует действительности и не используется Valery Galaktionov (talk) 11:53, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: FASTILY 10:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:29, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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nonsense, see Commons:Project scope Polarlys (talk) 19:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused personal photo, out of scope Mjrmtg (talk) 11:20, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:27, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to be taken from Tumblr post, no evidence that license is valid. Ytoyoda (talk) 17:35, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 17:10, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Deleted: INeverCry 00:59, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Files of User:Kemetnew

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Here are all files uploaded by user Kemetnew:

They are both unused personal images with bad quality and bad file name. Taivo (talk) 08:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Files of User:Lcodbar

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They seem to be newspaper copyright violation. Taivo (talk) 09:32, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Agree with OP --Sphilbrick (talk) 13:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Adogomez (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing EXIF.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:07, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Andriel duran (talk · contribs)

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different image sices, different qualities, different metadata. At least File:M60A1.gif ist clearly a copyright. I don't think we can trust this user.

Avron (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted - copyright status unclear. Lymantria (talk) 15:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by AphexTurn01 (talk · contribs)

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Out of scope, likely copyvios too.

Jespinos (talk) 20:18, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete all Taivo (talk) 15:42, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by B SLEEK (talk · contribs)

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Out of Commons:Project scope: Commons is not private photo album. Not used.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete all self-promo. Taivo (talk) 14:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Caravage10000 (talk · contribs)

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Modern art. I think painter permission confirmation via Commons:OTRS is necessary.

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Low resolutions and missing EXIF. The images are likely not own work.

Jespinos (talk) 17:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Douglasalmeyda (talk · contribs)

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Looks like collection of promo photos, not own work.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:55, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Garry Pelia (talk · contribs)

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE

Polarlys (talk) 19:21, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Garry Pelia (talk · contribs)

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unused personal photo, no educational value, out of scope

Mjrmtg (talk) 04:36, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


 Deleted, Taivo (talk) 12:02, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Ggrosvald (talk · contribs)

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Some images have filenames that are given by default by a screenshot software, which suggests that these images are not the original creation of the uploader. Metadata and watermarks of other images attribute these to two distinct photographers, and none of them appears to be the uploader of the images.

Jespinos (talk) 21:24, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Jack LondonPT (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, mostly missing EXIF. Apparently grabbed from several product catalogues and then retouched = File:Zagaia.jpg (watermark removed?), File:Amostra Flutuante.jpg (inverted watermark "Bassfishing"), File:Amostra de superficie.jpg (cropped), File:Amostra de superficie laranja.jpg (mysterious grey area). Per COM:PRP nominating all related uploads.

Gunnex (talk) 07:46, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Info At Commons talk:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Jack LondonPT the uploader stated that he took the files from the internet for "didactical use" and retouched them to "avoid problems", alleging that Commons has no related material. Gunnex (talk) 08:48, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Jack LondonPT (talk · contribs)

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Modern art. I think artist permission confirmation via Commons:OTRS is necessary.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:47, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Kadyrov2000 (talk · contribs)

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Possible copyvios.

Jespinos (talk) 02:07, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Marry.val (talk · contribs)

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Out of scope, unused personal images.

Jespinos (talk) 22:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by MenezesEwerton (talk · contribs)

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Low resolutions and missing EXIF. The images are likely not own work.

Jespinos (talk) 22:52, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Mohdgzp (talk · contribs)

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Out of scope, unused personal images.

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Files uploaded by Seijiamigo (talk · contribs)

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No evidence uploader is the copyright holder of the images.

Jespinos (talk) 17:17, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Shurmanito (talk · contribs)

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Out of scope, unused personal images.

Jespinos (talk) 17:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Yocelyn (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolutions, missing EXIF.

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It's an inappropriate redirect; it's a noticeboard that looks like a policy link Prosfilaes (talk) 04:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Both start with "commons". Hyacinth (talk) 05:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Who cares? That doesn't affect anything I said; it's still a noticeboard that looks like a policy link.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:37, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Redirect to English Wikipedia. We are an international project, it is totally inappropriate to confuse a user this way. There's already a lot of people who believe that we are just a file dump for ENWP, this completely noncivil approach and redirect needs to be deleted. Sinnamon Girl (talk) 02:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to see you here as well. Attempting to correct something which has been criticized is not uncivil. Making baseless accusations of incivility is uncivil. Hyacinth (talk) 02:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What would you all suggest instead? Hyacinth (talk) 02:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting the redirect until if and when we have a policy page to direct it to.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:37, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Commons is a multilingual project, and one separate from the encyclopedia projects. Binding by redirect to an en.wiki policy (implying use/deference to that policy) is inappropriate, as it ignores lingual and cultural diversity of the Commons and the local values and environment, which do not necessarily follow that of en.wiki. If formal guidance on (in)civility is desired, develop a local page with the input of Commons editors. Эlcobbola talk 19:26, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It's an inappropriate redirect; it's a noticeboard that looks like a policy link Prosfilaes (talk) 04:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Both start with "commons". Hyacinth (talk) 05:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What would you all suggest instead? Hyacinth (talk) 02:26, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • You make an assumption that such a page is required. I skimmed through the ENWP page and some of the points seem interesting, and maybe the community here would adapt some of them. You can write a proposal for the guideline and then request it to be adapted. If you mean "What can I do to draw people away from Commons and onto English Wikipedia?", then the answer is "Nothing". Sinnamon Girl (talk) 02:40, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You make assumptions about all of my goals, and personality. I don't think you need to worry about conspiracies to destroy Commons to benefit Wikipedia. Hyacinth (talk) 22:34, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Commons is a multilingual project, and one separate from the encyclopedia projects. Binding by redirect to an en.wiki policy (implying use/deference to that policy) is inappropriate, as it ignores lingual and cultural diversity of the Commons and the local values and environment, which do not necessarily follow that of en.wiki. If formal guidance on (in)civility is desired, develop a local page with the input of Commons editors. Эlcobbola talk 19:26, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Túrelio as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: http://www.buscorestaurantes.com/restaurante/Chumi-Churri-Sabadell-Cines-100079-0 Sreejith K (talk) 16:42, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep This seems to me as PD-Textlogo. Taivo (talk) 15:08, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete The logo is simple, but the "chumi churri" itself is non-notable (no mention in en.wiki). Also, the file is not used. Taivo (talk) 12:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Unused logo, no educational purpose. –⁠moogsi (blah) 08:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Subject requests deletion (OTRS 2013042910000262), copyright situation seems unclear to me. Jcb (talk) 01:10, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Unused personal image with OTRS request to remove for personal reasons. Deletion not contested. Эlcobbola talk 19:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Reduntant image. Similar to this one. Kulmalukko (talk) 19:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: deleted by Butko –⁠moogsi (blah) 08:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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žádost autora Valmont (talk) 19:40, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: no valid reason given Denniss (talk) 02:49, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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neplatná licence Valmont (talk) 00:21, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: no valid reason given. This is the second nomination by the uploader. The GFDL license is non-revocable. If there is an additional concern about this image, it needs to be articulated. Эlcobbola talk 19:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a music cover Tuankiet65 (talk) 02:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is my album cover that I created in its entirety. I have all copyrights and it is listed on iTunes, Amazon Music and Google Play.(talk) 23:13, 28 April 2013 (EST)

Please use the OTRS system to officially document this. Once that is done, your upload will be labeled as "permission on file with OTRS" or some similar label and this won't be an issue in the future. Davidwr (talk) 06:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Please submit permission by following the directions at COM:OTRS. The volunteer who handles the ticket will restore the image if everything is in order. Эlcobbola talk 19:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Because of no use Prshambhoo (talk) 10:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Didym (talk) 00:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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copyright issue IxAdvisoryTalents (talk) 09:49, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: copyvio from [3] Lupo 12:37, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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copyright issue IxAdvisoryTalents (talk) 09:50, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: copyvio Lupo 12:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Personality Rights claimed, and honored by uploader Wuselig (talk) 10:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Unused; uploader's request shortly after upload Lupo 12:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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English: This French painter died in 1998, so his paintings are not in the public domain.
Français : Ce peintre français mourait en 1998, donc ses peintures ne sont pas dans le domaine public.

Robert Weemeyer (talk) 07:50, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Français : On m'a demandé qu'est qu'il faut faire pour éviter la suppression de ces fichiers. - Il faut l'accord du peintre. Donc, si le peintre (quand il encore vivait) a donné son accord illimité pour faire des reproductions de sa peinture, c'est bon. Ou si les héritiers du peintre donnent cet accord. Sans cet accord, le propriétaire de la peinture malheureusement n'a pas le droit de publier des reproductions. Voyez Commons:Guide de référence#Art (reproductions). -- Robert Weemeyer (talk) 16:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per above. Lupo 12:35, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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me equivoque con el titulo Kynky (talk) 00:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Delete While the nominator's concern could be easily addressed by renaming, this does not appear to be the uploader's own work. Even if the uploader wrote the contents of the PDF, it is doubtful that they photographed the images on the cover. Эlcobbola talk 19:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per Elcobbola. –⁠moogsi (blah) 15:42, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Reduntant image. Almost similar to this one. Kulmalukko (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Reduntant image. Almost similar to this one. Kulmalukko (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Not really sure what to think about this.

  • most of the text seems to be from the thora, so placing it unter a CC-license might be considered copyfraud
  • the introducing text was prepared by "Mr. and Mrs. Elias E. Hidalgo", so if this first part is not below the threshold of originality, it's their copyright (http://shalom-peace.com/613.html says "all right reserved")
  • Contains only raw text, which is "not allowed" per Commons:Scope#PDF_and_DjVu_formats.

--El Grafo (talk) 12:25, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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This file was initially tagged by Blunt as Speedy (speedy) and the most recent rationale was: deletion|PD-US-not renewed claim is not possible as Fire Over England was made by London Films
Converted by me to DR, as image is on Commons since >6 years and deletion might deserve some discussion. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete This is indeed listed as PD on archive.org, and may not have had its copyright renewed in the US. However:
  • Cinema films made before 1 June 1957, the date on which the Copyright Act 1956 came into force, are not protected as film. They are either protected as a dramatic work under the Copyright Act 1911 (the 1911 Act) or as a series of photographs. Fire over England was released in 1937.
  • The death years of the director, writer and cinematographer were 1954, 1948/1965 (novel/screenplay), and 1971.
  • URAA-restored copyright is not a consideration because the film was released in the U.S. within 30 days of being released in the UK
Based on the above, it seems likely it's still copyrighted in the UK somehow. COM:PCP –⁠This comment was originally posted by moogsi (blah) on Commons:Deletion requests/File:FloraRobsoninFireOverEngland.jpg

Deleted -FASTILY 22:24, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Blunt as Speedy (speedy) and the most recent rationale was: deletion|PD-US-not renewed claim is not possible as Fire Over England was made by London Films
Converted by me to DR, as image is on Commons since >6 years and deletion might deserve some discussion. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete This is indeed listed as PD on archive.org, and may not have had its copyright renewed in the US. However:
  • Cinema films made before 1 June 1957, the date on which the Copyright Act 1956 came into force, are not protected as film. They are either protected as a dramatic work under the Copyright Act 1911 (the 1911 Act) or as a series of photographs. Fire over England was released in 1937.
  • The death years of the director, writer and cinematographer were 1954, 1948/1965 (novel/screenplay), and 1971.
  • URAA-restored copyright is not a consideration because the film was released in the U.S. within 30 days of being released in the UK
Based on the above, it seems likely it's still copyrighted in the UK somehow. COM:PCP –⁠This comment was originally posted by moogsi (blah) on Commons:Deletion requests/File:FloraRobsoninFireOverEngland.jpg

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Same as with Commons:Deletion requests/File:Presidente Azaña.jpg Kmeleon59 (talk) 16:03, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Screenshot of a probably copyrighted map/GIS. To keep this, we need proof that the map has a free license. El Grafo (talk) 08:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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20minutos is not the owner of the copyright. As Commons:Copyright rules by territory#Spain states, However, works of authors who died before December 7, 1987 are dealt with by the 1879 law, which sets a protection time of 80 years post mortem auctoris. Unless a source is supplied providing information about authorship (and the author happens to be dead before 1933, this image is not yet in the public domain) Kmeleon59 (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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delete this page i am onor of this page [4] Rillke(q?) 20:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Not related to Nanking massacre. MtBell (talk) 13:55, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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The copyright of the picture is suspicious. The image quality looks like a cropped snapshot from a video. 1.162.87.160 05:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted -FASTILY 06:35, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Made the mistake to upload this of myself when trying to learn wiki-building (contrary to guidelines). Apologies! Would like to remove it (especially since it's now redundant). Tijnvanlange (talk) 09:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted -FASTILY 06:31, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by EugeneZelenko as no permission (no permission since). Doubtfull own work. It can be found in the internet -se here but only in smaller resolutions. JuTa 19:02, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete copyvio. Image is from here, which is the background image of [5]. Lupo 20:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per Lupo MichaelMaggs (talk) 16:31, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Porque Eric Calcagno así lo desea Prensacalcagno (talk) 14:37, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep:
English: If Eric Calcagno wants to delete it, he must do so through the regular channels. The permissions of the image has been archived in OTRS and published under the CC-BY-SA, where de license is irrevocable.
Español: Si Eric Calcagno desea borrar la imagen, él debe solicitarlo a través del conducto regular. Los permisos de la imagen han sido archivados en OTRS y publicados bajo la licencia CC-BY-SA, donde la licencia es irrevocable.
Amitie 10g (talk) 03:33, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep per Amitie. More information might help, but there is no compelling reason to delete here, and it appears the license is valid. -Pete F (talk) 16:19, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Denniss (talk) 07:14, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Per Commons:Personality rights. Subject does not consent to publication (ticket# 2013042910003018). The Flickr page suggests that the image was taken in the Federal Republic of Germany and shows a German citizen. Under section 22 of the German Art Copyright Act (Kunsturhebergesetz), first sentence, pictures can only be disseminated or exposed to the public eye with the express approval of the person represented. While pictures relating to contemporary society are excluded from that rule under section 23.1 of the Act, the present image does obviously not fall within the scope of the exceptional provision. — Pajz (talk) 14:34, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like the uploader has taken the picture form a more or less private Flickr album. Wikimedia commons must respect personal rights of the depicted person. I support the deletion request. Also one has to take into consideration, that the picture is more or less a snapshot and not of high quality.--Einpixelimgesamtbild (talk) 14:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: no reason to delete as it was obviously made during a public performance Denniss (talk) 07:13, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I am re-nominating the image for deletion and am asking for another administrator to act on this request. As regards the principal matter, I refer you to my original reasoning:

Per Commons:Personality rights. Subject does not consent to publication (ticket# 2013042910003018). The Flickr page suggests that the image was taken in the Federal Republic of Germany and shows a German citizen. Under section 22 of the German Art Copyright Act (Kunsturhebergesetz), first sentence, pictures can only be disseminated or exposed to the public eye with the express approval of the person represented. While pictures relating to contemporary society are excluded from that rule under section 23.1 of the Act, the present image does obviously not fall within the scope of the exceptional provision.

The deciding administrator nevertheless did not delete the image, concluding that there was "no reason to delete as it was obviously made during a public performance." I have contacted him since and asked him to elaborate on his reasoning, and I refer you to my question along with his response at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Denniss&oldid=96542624#Decision_of_Deletion_Request.

The reasoning as provided fails to comply with German law and, together with the accompanying comments, exhibits a misunderstanding of the legal provisions concerned; therefore, the previous decision of this deletion request is incorrect and I request again the deletion of this image.

  1. Under Wikimedia Commons policy, German law is relevant for assessing whether or not the photograph concerned can be kept, according to Commons:Photographs of identifiable people#Legal issues.
  2. The image in question is undoubtedly a picture within the meaning of section 22 of the German Art Copyright Act (KUG) (henceforth, "a picture").
  3. The fact that a picture was taken "during a public performance" does, contrary to the claims of the deciding administrator, not imply that the image can be kept on Wikimedia Commons. The deciding administrator unfortunately failed to provide the precise legal provision underlying his decision (despite my expressed request); however, his comments suggest that the rationale for his decision is the assumption that a person taking part in a public performance agrees to the use of resulting pictures by means of implied consent.
    The proposition is wrong. While it is correct that a person taking part in a public performance regularly does implicitly consent to the use of pictures of this performance (provided that it is allowed to create such), the extent of this consent is limited in respect to content. I kindly refer you to the German High Court's Charlotte Casiraghi II decision (BGH GRUR 2005, 74 — Charlotte Casiraghi II), according to which an equestrian taking part in an international tournament has, "by way of her participation [...], given consent to the dissipation of pictures concerning her participation in this event. However, this consent does not extend to the dissipation outside the scope of reporting on the tournament" ("Zutreffend nimmt das BerGer. jedoch an, dass die Kl. durch die Teilnahme an dem internationalen Reitturnier, bei dem Pressefotografen offiziell zugelassen waren, zwar stillschweigend ihr Einverständnis mit der Verbreitung von Bildnissen über ihre Teilnahme an dieser Veranstaltung erklärt hat, diese Einwilligung aber nicht über eine Verbreitung im Rahmen einer Berichterstattung über dieses Turnier hinausging.") The picture in question, however, was used and will be used in other contextual environments as well, such as for the purpose of illustrating the article on the depicted person or for display in various categories on Wikimedia Commons.
    Likewise, it was noted in OLG Düsseldorf ZUM-RD 2003, 541 — Veröffentlichung von Fotos eines Models als Mitwirkende an einer Straßenmodenschau that a model's participation in a fashion show and her apparent willingness to be photographed make it clear that she does consent to the publication of pictures created during the fashion show. However, "the depicted person's expressed or implied consent does not permit all acts of dissipation or publication" ("berechtigt selbst die von dem Abgebildeten ausdrücklich oder stillschweigend erklärte Einwilligung nicht zu jedweder Verbreitung oder Veröffentlichung der gefertigten Bildnisse"). In the case decided by the court it was found to be allowed because the pictures were used as part of "current reporting on the fashion show where she participated" ("zum Zwecke einer zeitnahen Bildberichterstattung über die Straßenmodenschau, an der sie teilgenommen hatte").
    I hope this makes it clear that the participation in a contest ("European Slam Meeting", according to the Flickr source) does not convey by any means the permission to use pictures thereof independent of context, as is done on Wikimedia Commons as well as regularly on Wikipedia.
  4. It cannot be assumed that consent was obtained by the Flickr user. It is obvious that even if this were the case (purely speculative), consent to the publication of a picture on website A does not entail consent to the publiction on website B. See also Michael Libertus: Die Einwilligung als Voraussetzung für die Zulässigkeit von Bildnisaufnahmen und deren Verbreitung. ZUM 2007, 621: "Bei Einstellung eines Bildnisses ins Internet kann von der stillschweigenden Einwilligung des Einstellenden dahingehend ausgegangen werden, dass andere User durch Hyperlinks auf das Bildnis verweisen. Nicht von der Einwilligung gedeckt ist jedoch die Übernahme des Bildnisses in fremde Webseiten durch Inline-Links oder Frames." (translation omitted)

In light of the actual legal requirements as sketched above, I kindly ask another administrator to reconsider the previous decision to keep the image. — Pajz (talk) 07:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Denniss made a good decision. Taivo (talk) 10:20, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, and subject has requested deletion. Courtesy delete. -FASTILY 01:17, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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These files have Facebook-style file names on Flickr. This suggests that the files were first uploaded to Facebook using Facebook account #511364290 and then copied to Flickr. It's supposed to be possible to identify Facebook account holders using URLs like http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=511364290 but this one doesn't work. The Facebook file names suggest that the files might belong to someone other than the Flickr account holder (namely the Facebook account holder), so the permission to license the images under the specified licence might be invalid.

Stefan4 (talk) 23:41, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment I don't claim to understand why this technical Facebook issue would be a reason for deletion, however, I can see that the Flickr account "Al Jazeera English" is an 'official' Flickrstream used by http://www.aljazeera.com (where they also publish a lot of material, possibly even these photos, on a free reuse licence). I suggest that they are contacted if there is any doubt that they have published these photographs with the licence stated or that this is their official Flickrstream (if it is a fake, then the Flickr police can do their job). It is not really our job to backtrack through any copyright holder's history of releases to judge which is more official than others; if the licence is correct on Flickr, then a investigation to assess the timeline seems a waste of effort. Thanks -- (talk) 00:00, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If these files are kept, they need to be renamed and their descriptions filled in properly. As they are now they are totally useless, which, in and of itself, should be grounds for deletion, since a useless file is out of our scope. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Easily done, if someone wants to recommend new names. -- (talk) 09:04, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, it would require someone with knowledge of what the content of the images actually are, since they're not inherently obvious. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:19, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you disbelieve the tags on Flickr and the exact same matching categories on the image, we know where these were taken and the day of the protest involved. With no other investigation or more sophisticated understanding of the events being photographed, this seems sufficient to improve the file name. Should you wish to understand further, this article on the BBC seems to be precisely what these photographs relate to: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12272836 Thanks -- (talk) 09:32, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If you understand what these are images of, then you should alter the descriptions to indicate that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:16, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, busy. Thanks -- (talk) 13:19, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see, not busy enough to tell someone else what to do, but too busy to to it yourself.  Delete Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:27, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's right. If Wikimedia Commons has been reduced to mass deleting uploaded files released on official Flickrstreams from reliable news sources with a history of correctly releasing material on free reuse Creative Commons licences, where there is no demonstrable copyright reason to delete, no external challenge, and the only rationale given is that the uploader did not choose a not very good filename - something that could easily be fixed by anyone at some time in the future with the filemover right (such as yourself) - then I certainly can think of many other things to spend my time on during the Christmas holidays. By the way, it is bad practice to start renaming files in the middle of a Deletion request.  Keep for blindingly obvious reasons. Thanks -- (talk) 13:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Blindingly obvious"? How can it be "blindingly obvious" when what the images portray has not been specified by the uploader, and you, who profess to know what they are, won't take the time and energy to make it clear to rest of us poor schlubs what they are? I mean, it's "blindingly obvious" that I'm infinitely inferior to you, but I don't know what the fuck these images are supposed to portray. So, here's what I think - if you or someone else (Hey! - what about the editor who uploaded them? What an idea, that they should be responsible for what they did!) doesn't identify what the images are, they should be deep-sixed as being totally useless. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:11, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, blindingly is still an accurate description of this situation. Anyone who looks at these images for two seconds can see the category Egyptian Revolution protests (25 January 2011). As you do not know "what the fuck these images are supposed to portray" after reading that category name (you did actually spend a few seconds looking at the images before reaching an opinion here right?), I do not believe I can help you further. Thanks -- (talk) 14:21, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Not having the time to improve the content is a poor reason for deletion. Yann (talk) 14:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Changing my opinion to comment. I initially understood that these files were Al Jazeera content published on Facebook, which would be AJ's work and license. Now the comments seem to say that they are Facebook content published by AJ. Yann (talk) 18:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete - concur with Martin H. These are cases of Commons:Flickr washing with illegitimate relicensing by someone at Al Jazeera who isn't the copyright holder - MPF (talk) 23:42, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Claiming that Al Jazeera is mass violating copyright would on the surface appear a good reason for Flickr to close their official Flickrstream. However, we don't actually have any evidence this has been going on, as this may well be a reader's photograph of the protests that was donated for the public good. In fact for all we know, the Facebook photographer might be staff running the Flickrstream or a freelance photographer for Al Jazeera as about the only thing he declared publicly on Facebook is his name, and that he lives in Cairo. I have written the following Facebook message to the apparent photographer. I'll post back any reply I get unless they wish to keep it confidential. In the meantime I would not rush to claim publicly that the Commons community has evidence that Al Jazeera is deliberately and criminally breaking copyright law by Flickrwashing using its official account, when we have no evidence of any such thing. Thanks -- (talk) 00:54, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"to claim publicly that the Commons community has evidence that Al Jazeera is deliberately and criminally breaking copyright" - we not say this and we must not say this. All we say is that there is no evidence that the license applies and that we, as a matter of precaution, have no reason to upload the file. Its the same situation with every file that we take from an external source: We first ask, especially when in doubt. --Martin H. (talk) 13:38, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have the reply below. As Adam was an employee at the time, there is no copyright issue here. I will change the licence over to attribution on a conservative interpretation of the precautionary principle, and to respect Adam's reasonable expectation of attribution as the original photographer. Thanks -- (talk) 20:59, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment It appears that Al Jazeera may have intended to distribute these with a free license but have gone about it badly (although perhaps they were rushing to make the images available). This link may answer some of the questions about licensing, and this one may be helpful for placing the images in context. I suggest that the captions from that page are transferred to the description field and the attribution corrected as Fæ suggests. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 22:10, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Al Jazeera taking content from their employees facebook accounts? Normaly my employer has no rights to do something with the work that I create in my spare time and post on my facebook account. The information you wrote above does not confirm that this works are licensed to Al Jazeera under a contract (employment contract or license contract). --Martin H. (talk) 16:33, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Cause somone wants to distribute his pics, and probalby that was a time where reporters didn't had so much time to distribute the pics in a better way (cause the internet conection was probably limited in these days). So i'm for a keep.--Sanandros (talk) 18:51, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Unclear copyright status. Unless we have clear, explicit written/textual, tangible evidence indicating that these files are indeed freely licensed under a Commons compatible license, we cannot host them on Commons FASTILY (TALK) 02:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reopening. The conclusion at Special:PermanentLink/95311586#Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Al Jazeera files with bad file names was that there was no consensus to restore the files. However, although it says "Deleted" above, the closing administrator only deleted redirects to the files and not the files themselves. Not only the redirects, but also the files, need to be deleted. --Stefan4 (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum - additional discussion at Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2013-04#Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Al Jazeera files with bad file names and User talk:Fæ#Egyptian Revolution photos. -- (talk) 11:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep We have explicit written/textual, tangible evidence indicating that these files are indeed freely licensed under a Commons compatible license in the form of an email from the original photographer, and a verifiable release from his employer at the time, as evidenced by their release of these on Flickr. What exactly are you asking for in addition? I am happy to jump through sensible hoops, but I am not happy to have endless shifting sand undermining my work as an unpaid volunteer content creator for Commons. -- (talk) 12:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The conclusion was that the permission from the photographer was too unclear: the permission applies to "you" (whoever that is) and it allows "you" to "use" the images (whatever "use" means here). --Stefan4 (talk) 12:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good, in which case I release them on a CC-BY-SA licence as advised to the original photographer and I give him the explicit attribution he requires. At some point we can apply commonsense.
Now, can we undelete these please and stop being redicuously pedantic on logic chopping the potential meaning of words like "I" or "you" when it is perfectly obvious? If you are in doubt of who "I" am, I can email you a scan of my Wikimedia UK card from a wikimedia email address and a photo of myself either wearing a shirt, or tastefully topless if you must have something more explicit. Thanks -- (talk) 12:55, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cause u r WMUK doesen't make u speacial.--Sanandros (talk) 20:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Of course I'm special, in so many ways. :-) -- (talk) 02:56, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you were only given the permission to "use" the image. It is unclear whether that allows you to grant a licence to anyone else. --Stefan4 (talk) 12:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Stefan4, could you spell out any action you might expect to resolve this? If you think yet another email to the original photographer is needed, it would be helpful if you would write out what words you would personally require as a statement. I would not want to waste my time or the photographers going around this loop more than once. -- (talk) 03:08, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think that it would be good if he could agree to the indicated CC licences. The original statement isn't very clear as it doesn't contain any explicit licence name. --Stefan4 (talk) 12:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep The free license claim in Al-Jazeera web page should be evidence enough. Furthermore, despite the effort invested in challenging Al-Jazeera claim, the only thing we found is that the suspected photographer doesn't disagree with Al-Jazeera publishing his images under a free license, and he just asks to be credited. Then, the right license is the license given by Al-Jazeera. Giving credit to him is even beyond our obligation (he should ask Al-Jazeera first) but we can do that - although asking Al-Jazeera for objections could be kind, since they might have a different opinion about who should be credited.--Pere prlpz (talk) 18:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore, I see no reason to delete redirections, and they should be undeleted.
  •  Keep As I understand it, the situation is as follows. My conclusions are in brackets.
  1. The photographer took the photos as an employee of Al Jazeera (so Al Jazeera is very probably the copyright owner)
  2. The photographer later published them on his Facebook page (which strictly speaking he probably should not have done, as only the copyright holder has authority to publish)
  3. Al Jazeera took the Facebook photos and republished them under a free licence on their Flickr account (they are allowed to do that as the probable copyright owner)
  4. The Flickr images were uploaded to Commons
  5. Fae contacted the photographer who said "You can feel free to use my photos granted that you give me credit".
From 1 and 3 it follows that the files now on Commons are acceptable here, as they have been freely licensed by the copyright owner. It may be noted that the photographer has not challenged Al Jazeera's copyright, which supports the conclusion at 1.
So, absent any complaint from the photographer or actual evidence of attempted Flickrwashing by Al Jazeera of several of their own copyright images, we can keep the files and we are not bound to give any attribution to the photographer. However, I would certainly not oppose including that requirement anyway as a courtesy to him. It's of course not impossible to devise alternative scenarios such as illegality by Al Jazeera, or a contract of employment which specified that the photographer retained his own copyright, but those are in my view pretty unlikely. The Precautionary principle requires deletion only if there is significant doubt on the copyright issues - not any doubt at all no matter how small. If anyone wants to contact the photographer again, fine, but I really don't think that is needed. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:53, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep I also think that this is too harsh behaviou. If someone worked for Al Jazeera you can assume that the eventually had a contract or other kind of agreement to publish them on flickr. And also the behaviour of the auther doesen't seem to doubt anything.--Sanandros (talk) 23:41, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When I last checked, File:163615 501518659290 511364290 5849815 2361193 n - Flickr - Al Jazeera English.jpg was the only photo that had been deleted. If these are to be kept, it may be restored. Rybec (talk) 03:58, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: and restored as several people shown above. Yann (talk) 08:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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imho non-free work, see watermark "Photo Division (Government of India)", no educational use, not in use, Roland 21:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Roland, please have a look at Template:PD-India. This is a 1947 work. The template says "Photographs created before 1958 are in the public domain 50 years after creation, as per the Copyright Act 1911." Yes, the watermark is there which should be removed. And all of these photographs are historic and certainly have educational use. Regards, Rahul Bott (talk) 03:41, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: per {{PD-India}} as stated above. Historic images in scope. INeverCry 17:45, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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imho non-free work, see watermark "Photo Division (Government of India)", no educational use, not in use, Roland 21:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Roland, please have a look at Template:PD-India. This is a 1947 work. The template says "Photographs created before 1958 are in the public domain 50 years after creation, as per the Copyright Act 1911." Yes, the watermark is there which should be removed. And all of these photographs are historic and certainly have educational use. Regards, Rahul Bott (talk) 03:45, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: per {{PD-India}} as stated above. Historic images in scope. INeverCry 17:44, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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imho non-free work, see watermark "Photo Division (Government of India)", no educational use, not in use, Roland 21:34, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Roland, please have a look at Template:PD-India. This is a 1947 work. The template says "Photographs created before 1958 are in the public domain 50 years after creation, as per the Copyright Act 1911." Yes, the watermark is there which should be removed. And all of these photographs are historic and certainly have educational use. Regards, Rahul Bott (talk) 03:52, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: per {{PD-India}} as stated above. Historic images in scope. INeverCry 17:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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imho non-free work, see watermark "Photo Division (Government of India)", no educational use, not in use, Roland 21:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Roland, please have a look at Template:PD-India. This is a 1947 work. The template says "Photographs created before 1958 are in the public domain 50 years after creation, as per the Copyright Act 1911." Yes, the watermark is there which should be removed. And all of these photographs are historic and certainly have educational use. Regards, Rahul Bott (talk) 03:43, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: per {{PD-India}} as stated above. Historic images in scope. INeverCry 17:43, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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imho non-free work, see watermark "Photo Division (Government of India)", no educational use, not in use, Roland 21:21, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Roland, please have a look at Template:PD-India. This is a 1947 work. The template says "Photographs created before 1958 are in the public domain 50 years after creation, as per the Copyright Act 1911." Yes, the watermark is there which should be removed. And all of these photographs are historic and have certain educational use. Regards, Rahul Bott (talk) 03:31, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, delete, again, and it seems to need additional comments:
  1. PD India: yes, but if so for that media and the other uploads related to that, the media remains 'watermarked' respectively have imho a 'copyright' by that specific watermark.
  2. also very bad quality
  3. watermark not to remove,
  4. building (claimed so by uploader) not identified as categorized by "Unidentified buildings in India" (again, some minutes ago),
i.e. imho really no 'educational use'. btw, Rahull Bott: to upload media of imho 'bad' quality with centered watermarks that may not been removed, in general, imho it's to claim as media 'out of scope' and not a 'good recommendation' for Wikimedia Commons. Finally regards, Roland 18:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I am not really sure if I understand what you mean. Even if the image is PD-India, it can not be kept here just because of a watermark (which surely someone from the Labs can remove)? Is that what you are saying? Watermarks simply do not imply copyrights!! I cannot comment on the quality as prima facie I do not find it to be too bad, especially at small resolutions that we usually use on article pages, but may be those with better knowledge can say more on this. We should also remember the era when this image was created. There were no DSLRs then! Yes, the building is unidentified (but you are still not allowing Category:Unidentified buildings in India to be added to the page). Let experts tell us which building it is. These are all historic images which have great educational value. It is definitely not out of scope. Rahul Bott (talk) 04:16, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: per {{PD-India}} as stated above. Historic images in scope. INeverCry 17:46, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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imho non-free work, see watermark "Photo Division (Government of India)", no educational use, not in use, Roland 21:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Roland, please have a look at Template:PD-India. This is a 1947 work. The template says "Photographs created before 1958 are in the public domain 50 years after creation, as per the Copyright Act 1911." Yes, the watermark is there which should be removed. And all of these photographs are historic and certainly have educational use. Regards, Rahul Bott (talk) 03:47, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: per {{PD-India}} as stated above. Historic images in scope. INeverCry 17:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Holiday photo, no known scope on this photo. russavia (talk) 14:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Actually, cool glasses. This can used in some article about glasses, design or fashion industry. Taivo (talk) 12:00, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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No source of photographer in flickr. 80.171.56.128 11:25, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep: See the Flickr description page closer. Amitie 10g (talk) 03:22, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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replaced by .jpg Gerd Leibrock (talk) 16:42, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep My understanding is that TIFF is at most as lossy as JPEG. In that case there is a question, how was that mysterious JPEG created? Was it created by extracting JPEG data directly (without introducing additional artifacts) or was the file recompressed. In the first case my vote is a weak keep (since it's still an original file), in the latter case it's a strong one, since we don't supersede a better file with a worse one (and the JPEG should be nominated for deletion). Sinnamon Girl (talk) 02:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep These are losslessly compressed images, and hence higher-quality then any JPEGs produced from them. There may be Wikimedia-related reasons to have JPEG conversions, but we shouldn't delete the originals.--Prosfilaes (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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replaced by .jpg Gerd Leibrock (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep My understanding is that TIFF is at most as lossy as JPEG. In that case there is a question, how was that mysterious JPEG created? Was it created by extracting JPEG data directly (without introducing additional artifacts) or was the file recompressed. In the first case my vote is a weak keep (since it's still an original file), in the latter case it's a strong one, since we don't supersede a better file with a worse one (and the JPEG should be nominated for deletion). Sinnamon Girl (talk) 02:22, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep These are losslessly compressed images, and hence higher-quality then any JPEGs produced from them. There may be Wikimedia-related reasons to have JPEG conversions, but we shouldn't delete the originals.--Prosfilaes (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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replaced by .jpg Gerd Leibrock (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep My understanding is that TIFF is at most as lossy as JPEG. In that case there is a question, how was that mysterious JPEG created? Was it created by extracting JPEG data directly (without introducing additional artifacts) or was the file recompressed. In the first case my vote is a weak keep (since it's still an original file), in the latter case it's a strong one, since we don't supersede a better file with a worse one (and the JPEG should be nominated for deletion). Sinnamon Girl (talk) 02:22, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep: Same image in other format is not considered duplicated and is not a valid reason for delete. Amitie 10g (talk) 03:43, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep These are losslessly compressed images, and hence higher-quality then any JPEGs produced from them. There may be Wikimedia-related reasons to have JPEG conversions, but we shouldn't delete the originals.--Prosfilaes (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Per Commons:Personality rights. Subject does not consent to publication (ticket# 2013042910003018). The Flickr page suggests that the image was taken in the Federal Republic of Germany and shows a German citizen. Under section 22 of the German Art Copyright Act (Kunsturhebergesetz), first sentence, pictures can only be disseminated or exposed to the public eye with the express approval of the person represented. While pictures relating to contemporary society are excluded from that rule under section 23.1 of the Act, the present image does obviously not fall within the scope of the exceptional provision. — Pajz (talk) 14:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


It seems like the uploader has taken the picture form a more or less private Flickr album. Wikimedia commons must respect personal rights of the depicted person. I support the deletion request. Also one has to take into consideration, that the picture is more or less a snapshot and not of high quality. --Einpixelimgesamtbild (talk) 14:49, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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copy of reduced size of File:Stratocaster closeup-SteveEF.jpg originally transferred from Commons to lb-Wikipedia by lb:user:Cornischong then retransferred to Commons Robby (talk) 21:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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This file was transferred from lb-Wikipedia here on commons. Initially lb:User:Cornischong found it on Commons and uploaded it on 21. Abr. 2008, 09:22:13 to lb-wikipedia as you may see on lb:Fichier:Fernando-Lugo--w.jpg#filehistory while it was deletede here on commons: 14:40, 28 April 2008 ABF (talk | contribs) deleted page File:FernandoLugo.JPG (Deleted because "Was in Category:Unknown as of 21 April 2008; still missing essential information". using TW) (global usage; delinker log) Robby (talk) 21:27, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep File:FernandoLugo.JPG was uploaded by User:FernandoLugoAPC2008 on 2008-01-07. It was 1600×1200px and had an EXIF time of 2007-05-26. The uploader clearly stated "self-made" as source. I have no idea why it was tagged as "no source" on 2008-04-21; to me, it looks like a legitimate upload. AGF until there's evidence that something's fishy, and this time, I don't see anything fishy. I can find no versions of this file online that would have an earlier date. I would restore File:FernandoLugo.JPG, and keep File:Fernando-Lugo--w.jpg, and mention that the latter is a crop of the former. Lupo 20:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep Yes I agree that there is no reason given why the original should be deleted as "no source". The poster in the background could be a problem but that could be cropped. --MGA73 (talk) 19:32, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment The original was most likely tagged as no source because of the poster in the background. The crop should be ok. The original should not be restored unless the cropped version is merged with it and the original hidden. --Denniss (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Blunt as Speedy (speedy) and the most recent rationale was: deletion|PD-US-not renewed claim is not possible as Fire Over England was made by London Films
Converted by me to DR, as image is on Commons since >6 years and deletion might deserve some discussion. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete This is indeed listed as PD on archive.org, and may not have had its copyright renewed in the US. However:
  • Cinema films made before 1 June 1957, the date on which the Copyright Act 1956 came into force, are not protected as film. They are either protected as a dramatic work under the Copyright Act 1911 (the 1911 Act) or as a series of photographs. Fire over England was released in 1937.
  • The death years of the director, writer and cinematographer were 1954, 1948/1965 (novel/screenplay), and 1971.
  • URAA-restored copyright is not a consideration because the film was released in the U.S. within 30 days of being released in the UK
Based on the above, it seems likely it's still copyrighted in the UK somehow. COM:PCP –⁠moogsi (blah) 16:08, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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this is an old picture JontyRhodes8 (talk) 06:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep This is not a valid reason, and the photo does not seem old. Taivo (talk) 09:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep 'Old' is a totally irrelevant reason here..... old maps, paintings etc would also have to go. Paul venter (talk) 22:01, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Is the source an "official document"? I don't think so Kmeleon59 (talk) 16:07, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Picture is from Mohammed Morsi's official page, so it is considered an official document. The Egyptian law states that "Regardless of their source or target language, all official documents are ineligible for protection in Egypt". --Mr Revolution (talk) 18:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see your syllogism. An official document is usually a decree, an act, a reglament... The fact that such a page is an "official" page doesn't make it an "official document". Can you provide any "official" statement about Morsi's page being an official document in itself? --Kmeleon59 (talk) 19:16, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Gov. likes posting on facebook, what they post is considered official.They chose social media rather than posting on the official websites. I know that an official document is "a big" word, and we can't just point to a picture posted and say it is an official document. As far as I know it is the official page (https://www.facebook.com/Egypt.President.Morsi/info), so when they post pictures, the pictures are considered official pictures of the president. --Mr Revolution (talk) 11:49, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Unclear copyright status. Unless we have clear, explicit written/textual, tangible evidence indicating that this file is indeed freely licensed under a Commons compatible license, we cannot host it on Commons FASTILY 23:08, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]



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The palace is work by František Krasny (1865-1947). Per COM:FOP#Slovenia, the photo is non-free for Commons. Eleassar (t/p) 11:09, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These images were rightfully used in Yugoslavia for commercial usage, but now the Slovenian law prohibits using photos of architecture for commercial products, and therefore they are not free for further commercial reuse in the country of origin. In addition, the copyright protection for photos lasted for 25 years after their publication, the date of the photographer's year has no importance whatsoever.[6] --Eleassar (t/p) 14:47, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't the 1995 law effect only what was still under copyright at the time? --Sporti (talk) 14:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and the depicted architecture was still under copyright at the time, and is still now. Therefore, it is forbidden to commercially reuse it without the permission of the copyright holder. --Eleassar (t/p) 14:52, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are some exceptions in the Yugoslav law (par. 48) --Sporti (talk) 15:35, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this is what Miha has mentioned. It is the right to freely reproduce works in publicly accessible premisses that was given by law in Yugoslavia. As you know, the Slovene copyright act (Article 55), enacted in 1995, limits the usage of reproductions of architectural and other such works to non-commercial use.[7] --Eleassar (t/p) 16:27, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If something was already free, I don't think a law can change that retroactively in Slovenia. --Sporti (talk) 16:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The architecture was and remains copyrighted. It's only what one can do with its reproductions. --Eleassar (t/p) 17:01, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well the constitution is above any law (if it really says that, because change from 50 to 70 years is explicitly applied only to work still under copyright in 1995). Or else when reproduction of arhitecture was free, someone publishes a photograph of it in a book. And since the 1995 law the achitect can sue him? - I don't think so and this is exacly why the constitution doesn't alove retroactive laws. --Sporti (talk) 18:55, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, if you had published a book (with your own photograph of still copyrighted architecture) before 1995, you can't be sued now, because this would be retroactive. However, if you used this photo in a new book now, when the new law applies (or an even better example, if you were selling the photo as a postcard), you could be sued. The act doesn't specify anywhere that it applies only for certain photographs, e.g. those that were taken after it had been passed. It applies for all photographs. "Article 55: Works located in generally accessible premises. Works ... may not be ... used for economic gain."[8] --Eleassar (t/p) 19:01, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't have to say because all laws can only appy to what was done after they were passed. This is exacly the same as {{Flickr-change-of-license}}. Also asked in Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#FOP in Slovenia before 1995. --Sporti (talk) 06:38, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see anything retroactive if one commercially reuses the photo (e.g. as a postcard or in a book) after the law has changed. The reusage would be done after the new act has been passed in this case. Per Article 193, the new copyright act applies for all works that were in 1995 still protected according to the Yugoslav copyright act. Therefore, the FOP limitations also apply to the architecture that was protected then and is still protected now. A photograph of an architectural work is a derived work and as such it can't be used freely even if in the public domain. See also a similar case regarding Germany,[9] where it was determined that the current FOP provisions apply for old photographs from before 1965 no matter that the law changed in 1965. The link to the Village pump: [10] (no new information). --Eleassar (t/p) 08:12, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to the German case, there are provisions in the act, e.g. Articles 193/2 and 193/4,[11] which are truly retroactive. Claiming that the act is unconstitutional and invalid because of them should be first proven in the court. Or, a source should be provided stating that images published in Yugoslavia are still free for any usage, including the usage of copyrighted architecture for commercial purposes, despite the modern copyright act in Slovenia stating that works in public premises may not be used for economic gain, and in contrast to photographs that have been given to the public domain by their authors. --Eleassar (t/p) 08:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh. This case has all sorts of complications. The photos should be fine in the US from the sounds of it, if they were PD in their source country (presumably Slovenia) in 1996. The terms would have been 50pma at most, and probably less for photos, so they were in all probability not restored by the URAA. In the U.S., photos of buildings are not considered derivative works. So the U.S. angle is fine, and they could at the very least be moved to en-wiki since they just use U.S. law. As for the "country of origin"... oof. The photos were presumably published in Yugoslavia, which has several successor nations -- if it is considered "simultaneously published" in all such countries then the Berne Convention would use the country with the shortest term -- for the photo. For buildings, I think it is defined as the country where the building is located, which I guess is Slovenia. Retroactivity... the 1995 law was definitely not retroactive. Usually the place to look is the "transitional" sections towards the end; the 1995 law (section 193 in the link above) says it only applies to works which were still protected under the Yugoslav copyright law at the time. The EU copyright directives typically requires retroactive restorations, and it seems their 2004 law (article 24(1)) does this (though they use the date Slovenia acceded to the EU, and not the date in the original EU copyright term directive). It's not a guarantee though -- it appears Romania never made its law retroactive despite joining the EU. It's... an interesting question whether that causes the photo to become a derivative work. Is it only photos taken after the law went into effect which are a problem, or are all old photos now a problem. The transitional parts give some OK to existing exploitations -- was the photo itself the exploitation, or only physical copies of that photo extant on that date? Secondly, we may well have a situation where the country of origin of the photo is different than the country of origin of the building. Which does Commons use? In general we seem to allow photos of a sculpture placed in a FoP country even if the country of origin of the sculpture is a different country -- we use the law where the photo was taken, as a more expedient policy since that was what the photographer expected. This is a variation on that situation, but a little bit different. Carl Lindberg (talk) 10:08, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

About copyright restoration, I think the answer is that copyrights were still restored in EU-15 if the work was still protected in at least one EU-15 country on 1 July 1995. If a country joined after 1 July 1995, then I believe that you should use the date of accession to the European Union (that is, 1 May 2004, 1 January 2007 or 1 July 2013) instead of the date 1 July 1995 when determining if a work should have its copyright restored or not. On the day before Slovenia joined the European Union, all EU countries still used the rule of the shorter term for Slovenian works (due to it not yet being an EU country), so maybe those works weren't protected anywhere in the European Union at that time and thus didn't need to be restored. The same thing presumably happened with Romania almost three years later.
About old photos, it seems tricky. The old law said that the building was protected and that you couldn't copy the building in an unrestricted way (for example by constructing an identical building elsewhere). On the other hand, the old law didn't protect the photographic reproduction of the building. This could mean three things: a) You can take and use photos of buildings constructed before the law was changed. b) You can't take any new photos but you can use all old photos. c) You can neither use new photos nor old photos. From a starting point, what exactly happened here? Was the statue made before the law was changed? Was the photo taken before the change of the law? Do we need examples of case law before we will know what to do? --Stefan4 (talk) 15:01, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the opinion. This sculpture was made in 1997, after the new act was passed. --Eleassar (t/p) 15:54, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That is a really good point. Some EU countries just basically restored *everything* at the time, as the "protected in any EU country as of <date>" language amounted to basically the same thing and restoring everything was simpler. But for a country *joining* the EU later on... it may not. They needed to restore all other EU works to 70pma, but any of Slovenia's own works which were PD as of 1995 may have remained PD since other EU countries would not have protected them at all at that point. I don't think Romania ever added the "protected in any EU country" language at all though; they are a bit different, even if it amounts to the same thing for their own works. I don't think the distinction here though as the building was still copyrighted in Slovenia in 1995. Carl Lindberg (talk) 00:53, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Shortest term rule + picture in public domain in 1972. Léna (talk) 11:47, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Renominating the photo for deletion per the discussion at Commons:UDR. There is significant doubt that the photograph is free. It has been clarified that the rule of the shortest term does not apply in this case, and it is probable that the succeeding country would use its currently valid copyright law.[12] The case is comparable to the EU Copyright Duration Directive and the URAA provisions.[13] Eleassar (t/p) 10:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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unused, personal file, see COM:SCOPE Polarlys (talk) 19:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


  •  Keep I didn't see this sort of fashion before, as such it is educational (I have learnt something, so can somebody else). Sinnamon Girl (talk) 03:52, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete I would rather say this is educational, but regardlessly I think it is better to delete it because there is no evidence or obvious indication of it confirming with Commons:Country specific consent requirements. We don't know if the subject agreed on publishing this photo for the general public under a free license. I am particularly concerned in this regard because the depicted person is a minor, who is (and should be) more strongly protected than adults. At the very least, I would like the photographer to assert {{Consent}}. --whym (talk) 10:05, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sorry but this seems not to be covered by COM:FOP#Japan. JuTa 18:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Delete

Google machine translation

Restoration of the statue is 11:09 October 9 1964. It has not yet elapsed after the publication 50 years, copyright protection period has not expired.

Original text(japanese)

銅像の復元は1964年10月9日午前11時。公表後50年経過していないので、著作権保護期間が満了していない。— Preceding unsigned comment added by 京浜にけ (talk • contribs) 2013-04-30T08:06:02 (UTC)

The Statue of Date Masamune in Aoba-yama Park, Sendai (Second generation) have been rebuilt in 1964, by reusing the same mold for the First generation made in 1935. So, we should think on the basis of the production of First generation.
The statue is sculpted by Komuro Toru (), who died in 1953.
Japanese copyright duration is 50 years pma, therefore the statue was under Japanese copyright until 2003. And it was copyrighted in the country of origin on the URAA restoration date of 1996-01-01, the US copyright of 70 years pma will expire 2024-01-01.  Delete --Vantey (talk) 01:32, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sorry, but this seems not to be covered by COM:FOP#Japan. JuTa 18:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Google machine translation

Restoration of the statue is 11:09 October 9 1964. It has not yet elapsed after the publication 50 years, copyright protection period has not expired.

Original text(japanese)

銅像の復元は1964年10月9日午前11時。公表後50年経過していないので、著作権保護期間が満了していない。— Preceding unsigned comment added by 京浜にけ (talk • contribs) 2013-04-30T08:07:01 (UTC)

The Statue of Date Masamune in Aoba-yama Park, Sendai (Second generation) have been rebuilt in 1964, by reusing the same mold for the First generation made in 1935. So, we should think on the basis of the production of First generation.
The statue is sculpted by Komuro Toru (), who died in 1953.
Japanese copyright duration is 50 years pma, therefore the statue was under Japanese copyright until 2003. And it was copyrighted in the country of origin on the URAA restoration date of 1996-01-01, the US copyright of 70 years pma will expire 2024-01-01.  Delete --Vantey (talk) 01:32, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment IMHO, this is a good case as to whether the derivative work of art work in Japan whose author died more than 50 years ago but less than 70 years ago, would be accepted in Commons.  I guess that Vantey is applying Commons guideline stringently. Are there already similar cases that refused to keep the photos whose author has NOT been dead for 70 years? Please refer to me. I would like to share the community's view. Otherwise this discussion could be a consensus making process. --Nightingale (talk) 02:15, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:1957 Japanese movie posters for previous discussions. --whym (talk) 02:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep At this moment I stand by "keep", unless firm consensus is made on what to do with art work in Japan which falls currently in-between after 50 and 70 years author's death.--Nightingale (talk) 02:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC) minor edit made --Nightingale (talk) 02:27, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete whym, thank you for your clarification. I have learnt the issue, though complicated. --Nightingale (talk) 07:09, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete as a copyright-restored work per previous consensus, and file it in Category:Undelete in 2024 per Vantey above. --whym (talk) 02:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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