Commons:Deletion requests/Image:F porsche.jpg

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Image:F porsche.jpg

Porsche died in 1951, when was this bust done? surely derivative work. Polarlys 14:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ If this bust is on permanent display at the Porsche museum in Stuttgart, Germany, isn't it covered under w:de:Panoramafreiheit as per the freedom of panorama subsection of the Germany subsection of the Country-specific laws section of Commons:Licensing? This is a serious question, as I don't understand the German language. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

“Objects permanently located in public that can be photographed from public (accessible) grounds” – an interior (museum) isn’t covered by this. I don’t know where this bust is located. After all the museum is located on the factory premises of Porsche. --Polarlys 21:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the public not allowed to visit the museum? — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, the public is allowed to visit the museum, but it’s not a public place within the defition, but a private ground:

§ 59 UrhG - Werke an öffentlichen Plätzen „(1) Zulässig ist, Werke, die sich bleibend an öffentlichen Wegen, Straßen oder Plätzen (public alleys, avenues or places) befinden, mit Mitteln der Malerei oder Grafik, durch Lichtbild oder durch Film zu vervielfältigen, zu verbreiten und öffentlich wiederzugeben. (…)“ --Polarlys 22:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support OK, you have convinced me. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it was, photos taken under FOP in Germany only allow non-commercial uses. Yonatan ^talk 00:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure? de:Panoramafreiheit seems to say otherwise. --88.134.140.64 01:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I am extremely unsure, if someone verifies that you are correct it should be changed ASAP on COM:FOP which is what I go by. Yonatan ^talk 01:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, derivative work. Panoramafreiheit does not apply. Kjetil r 02:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete derivative work of copyrighted bust. --Rtc 07:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, derivative work -- Editor at Large • talk 08:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]