Talk:Alamance County, North Carolina

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I've been trying to get this page more in line with the US Counties standards, but also trying to establish it as a good, complete and centralized resource on Alamance County. Any help from county residents would be appreciated. (User talk:5minutes Feb 6 07 8:21 EST)

Does the Dairy Industry section belong in History? Is there a better place for it?User talk:5minutes Feb 13 07

Alex Haley

Does this need to be in "Civil War" or in "Notable Residents"? I vote for "Residents", if the story is actually true. According to the article on "Roots", there is some question as to the validity of Haley's research on his family, and that question should probably at least be referenced by saying "they may have been from Alamance County" or somesuch. (User talk:5minutes Jan 31 07 17:00 pm EST

Mr. Haley, the notable, didn't live in Alamance. It should be in the relevant period of history which is before the Civil War. As for the critic of the book there isn't a question about Alamance or not - it's a question of there being an extra generation after Kizzy and still in Alamance county - as I read it. If you read the book there are many mentions of figures and events and places in Alamance and I've never seen any criticism of the general thrust of the book being in Alamance. Thus the citations already present which site local people actually interviewed for historical connection. Surely they could have denied ever providing any such evidence. And it isn't trivia - it's one of the very few portrayals that made it to the mass consciousness of Americans of one of the most important institutions of American history. --Smkolins 01:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
That's fine, and I have no problem recognizing significant historical figures and families, but I'm still not sure it's reflective of the entire history of the county any more than saying that some of John Boy's family lived locally for X number of years. It may not be trivia, per se, but history? Again, I believe "residents" may be appropriate (I selected Trivia because I felt it was a good middle-ground). (User talk:5minutes Feb 6 2007, 8:19 AM EST)
If it were just someone's ancestor lived here then I'd say it less than trivia. If it's someone well known it could still be trivia unless there was something important about that relationship. Roots was a phenomenon, and as part of Mr. Haley's success as perhaps the most successful african american writer in history AND it's about his family AND it happened in Alamance AND its about a most poignant issue real in american life now and then (even if it has significantly changed since then.) I think that raises it above trivia - at least on a par with a battle. Calling it trivia could easily be seen as insulting. With all the rules in wikipedia I find it hard to believe there isn't some rule about calling something trivia.--Smkolins 18:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. I've moved the Alex Haley reference to the "residents" section. I'd still register opposition to sticking it in history as I have some question as to whether literature could qualify as history (I wouldn't include "Macbeth" in a history of Scotland, either). Certainly, significant and important residents would be, I believe, a happy medium for now. Maybe later on, we could create a new section on literature. There's several books out there that take place in the area, and there's several historic events that take place that should be included. For instance, I'm fighting with myself about where to include a reference to the Blanche Taylor Moore murders and the subsequent media frenzy that followed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 5minutes (talkcontribs) 14:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC).Reply

Kirk-Holden War

I'd love to see some improvement in this section. Does anyone have more information? User:5minutes 14:50 Feb 7 2007

Tequan Richmond

This article states that Tequan was born in BUrlington. However, his article states his birth place as Milwaukee Wisconson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.157.77.44 (talkcontribs) 03:23, November 20, 2007

Secession

“After a special legislative session, North Carolina's legislature unanimously voted for secession on May 20, 1861.”

How can this be? It was a point of constitutional theology for the secessionists that the legislature was an instrument of the sovereign people, and not competent to make such a basic decision. Only the people themselves, in a special convention called for the purpose, could do that. More info needed on why the legislature was thought competent to secede when the convention had refused. 2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:60CE:E99A:568D:60C1 (talk) 22:32, 11 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

It shouldn't have happened, IMO, but it did. The entire state voted against secession, but between the time of the vote and the time the legislature met, SC, VA, TN, and GA all seceded, leaving NC as a Union state surrounded by the CSA. As a result, on May 20, 1861, NC became the last state to withdraw from the union via the NC Ordinance of Secession. Hope this helps clarify matters. 5minutes (talk) 22:53, 11 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

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