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:Do you have any improvements to the article that you wish to discuss? Wikipedia is [[Wikipedia:NOTFORUM|not a forum]] to discuss the merits or otherwise of colonial policy in Kenya. '''<span style="font-family: 'Georgia';">[[User:MediaKill13|<span style="color: #696969;">MediaKill13</span>]] <span style="color: #000000"><small>([[User talk:MediaKill13|<span style="color: #000000">talk</span>]])</small></span></span>''' 11:49, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
::ExactlyWell, apply that standard: "''In the early days of the colonial era in Kenya, the colonialists believed that Africans should not be allowed an education beyond the basic level as they would not benefit from any higher education. The rationale was that Africans were only useful as a source of cheap labour.''" needsThis is a citationcolonial-era astrope itthat contradictsis statednot born out by British Government policy within regardsKenya to(or Kenyaindeed, the Protectorate that andpreceded it). wasIt theeither Britishby Governmentyour thatstandard wasneeds removing or, at the finalvery least needs a citation arbiterif in thisfact matter.you [[Special:Contributions/2001:8003:70F5:2400:BDA0:5022:CBD:2B0C|2001:8003:70F5:2400:BDA0:5022:CBD:2B0C]]do ([[Userindeed talk:2001:8003:70F5:2400:BDA0:5022:CBD:2B0C|talk]])allow 15:26,commentary 8on Augustcolonial 2022policy. (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/2001:8003:70F5:2400:BDA0:5022:CBD:2B0C|2001:8003:70F5:2400:BDA0:5022:CBD:2B0C]] ([[User talk:2001:8003:70F5:2400:BDA0:5022:CBD:2B0C|talk]]) 15:26, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 
:The claim was cited to that Business Daily Africa article cited at the end of the section. Nevertheless, I've added another inline citation at the end of the contested sentence to point people to the source. '''<span style="font-family: 'Georgia';">[[User:MediaKill13|<span style="color: #696969;">MediaKill13</span>]] <span style="color: #000000"><small>([[User talk:MediaKill13|<span style="color: #000000">talk</span>]])</small></span></span>''' 07:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks MediaKill13 ... the opinionated ramblings of an individual journalist (who himself provides zero evidence) would not normally be regarded as a reliable source. But hey, ... this is Wikipedia! He gives zero regard for the fact that the Devonshire White Paper (which guided colonial policy in Kenya) stated unambiguously that the interests of the native populations in the colony took precedence above all else. Slavery was abolished by the preceding Protectorate and forced labour never occurred in Kenya (which is probably the reason why so many Asian migrants came and why so many early business ventures by European settlers failed). The much hated Hut Tax (which was to form the basis of internal revenue and probably contributed to the development of Alliance High School) was never collected if it placed undue burden on the individual. The British East African Protectorate was run at a loss to the British Taxpayer. The Kenyan Colony established a modicum of self-reliance but it's development was increasingly funded both prior to independence and post independence by British Tax-payers (and thereafter by contributions from other entities). The fact that so many lazy journalists in Kenya adopt the quasi Pan-African ramblings of UK and US academics/polemics is understandable in this day and age but not, conducive to improving the knowledge-base of Kenyans. [[Special:Contributions/2001:8003:70F5:2400:6967:97FE:9902:8795|2001:8003:70F5:2400:6967:97FE:9902:8795]] ([[User talk:2001:8003:70F5:2400:6967:97FE:9902:8795|talk]]) 23:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
:::None of your own claims have cited any [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]], and as the person who substantially wrote the [[Devonshire White Paper]] article, I happen to know that they're either false or misleading. Before you accuse other sources of being "quasi Pan-African ramblings of UK and US academics/polemics" written by "lazy journalists in Kenya" I suggest you find reliable sources of your own. '''<span style="font-family: 'Georgia';">[[User:MediaKill13|<span style="color: #696969;">MediaKill13</span>]] <span style="color: #000000"><small>([[User talk:MediaKill13|<span style="color: #000000">talk</span>]])</small></span></span>''' 09:36, 1 September 2022 (UTC)