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:::"Recent edits have been for the worse." If you can support this claim with any sources or coherent arguments beyond your issue with "Beton Brut", that’s be great. As it stands, you removed a sourced claim describing the kinds of materials associated with the style, and replaced it with an '''unsourced''', vague claim about “concrete, and sometimes brick." If you could point out an element of the lede which is inaccurate or unduly repetitive, with sources to back up your perspective, I'd be grateful. Otherwise, I consider my edits a useful roadmap for how the rest of the article should be improved—with core, important ideas summarized clearly for the average reader.
:::Also, the current picture of the Villa Göth is low quality in my opinion—the landscaping is in disarray, covering part of the house, and the angle doesn’t emphasize what is unique about the structure—its geometric, boxy design. [[User:Gentlecollapse6|gentlecollapse6]] ([[User talk:Gentlecollapse6|talk]]) 20:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
Again, for your clarification, the lead is supposed to act primarily as a summary only. Citations are not typically needed, but can be used, in the lead. That visitors may or may not read beyond that is arguable but also irrelevant. It's their fault if they don't - it's not justification for packing every little factoid there. Your prior edits added repetitive statements and you're doing it again. You now have two sentences in the first paragraph of the page that are overlapping and saying the same thing in different ways. There's no sources required here - just read it. Sometimes less is more.
 
We have a well-developed History section, as well, so we don't need to pack the lead with lots of repeated or conflicting information. There is NO DOUBT that Le Corbusier influenced the movement greatly, particularly later on, (and this is essentially stated in the History section more than once) and that Beton Brut represents a sizable portion of example buildings. However, the suggestion that the phrase "Brutalism" originated with the term "Beton Brut" is apparently a neologism. It's a claim made years and decades after the fact and then repeated without evidence (as was the case for your citation in the lead previously). It's also important to note that the earliest Brutalist structures (such as Villa Goth, Hunstanton School, Sigden House, Lyttelton House, etc...) really don't have any measurable connection to Le Corbusier.
 
As far as the Villa Goth picture, it's not perfect but it's still far more representative of the structure then the grayscale, reversed photo prior. [[User:Jtfolden|Jtfolden]] ([[User talk:Jtfolden|talk]]) 22:26, 26 April 2020 (UTC)