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:you have to reach consensus for that also that isn't part of the war, literally no battle got czechoslovak or yuogoslav support, this has already been discussed and it has been decided to not put it. [[User:Vladdy Daddy's lapdog|D.M.T.]] ([[User talk:Vladdy Daddy's lapdog|talk]]) 18:51, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
:No, the infobox does not have to mention them, this article is about the Romanian-Hungarian war, where there were no Czech, French or Serbian troops. They had their own fronts, which have their own articles. If you so want to link to those, then you can do so in the "see also" section. [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 18:52, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
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::+ [[User:Vladdy Daddy's lapdog|D.M.T.]] ([[User talk:Vladdy Daddy's lapdog|talk]]) 18:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)▼
::yes, this should be pretty obvious [[User:Wikiacc1985|Wikiacc1985]] ([[User talk:Wikiacc1985|talk]]) 20:19, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
French and Serbian armies crossed the northern borderland of Belgrade (the pre-WW1 border) and end up at [[Szeged]] and [[Pécs]]. The so-called "Czechoslovak" army (which consisted 90% of Czechs) crossed the south-Eastern Czech borderland and occupied whole [[upper Hungary]]. It miselad the readers that it did not effect the Hungarian-Romanian war, and shows as it would been just a single war, come out from the blue skies.--[[User:Longsars|Longsars]] ([[User talk:Longsars|talk]]) 19:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
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So according to your logic, during WW2, the nazi German occupation of Western half of Poland did not effected the situation of the Soviet Polish war? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland The combined territory of the Serbo-French and Czechoslovak occupied zone was bigger than the Romanian.--[[User:Longsars|Longsars]] ([[User talk:Longsars|talk]]) 19:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
:And your point is? By occupying Hungarian territory it somehow helped the Romanian troops in their fighting? What you're trying to say is that the Hungarians sent significant numbers of troops on those fronts?
:And the comparison with the WW2 Soviet invasion is poor, as in the case of the Hungarian-Romanian war, there was no agreement about a course of action from all sides. [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 19:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
::i agree [[User:Wikiacc1985|Wikiacc1985]] ([[User talk:Wikiacc1985|talk]]) 20:17, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
:the occupation from the romanian side came after battles mostly up to tisza river, the yugoslav troops had no fights. [[Special:Contributions/2001:B07:6469:985D:5EF:421A:6FCE:7DC1|2001:B07:6469:985D:5EF:421A:6FCE:7DC1]] ([[User talk:2001:B07:6469:985D:5EF:421A:6FCE:7DC1|talk]]) 19:46, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Hungary lost manpower territory resources industry during the Serbo-French and Czech occupation. Even such an infrastructurally socially backward country was able to go close to the Tisza river without fight under the pacifist liberal Károlyi government. Romania was so poor and backward place like third world, where majority couldn't read and write (extreme low literacy ratio) which had no serious urbanization, and did not have real industry and European level infrastructure. See the Maddison project about pre-WW1 Europe : https://www.rug.nl/ggdc/historicaldevelopment/maddison/releases/maddison-project-database-2020 --[[User:Longsars|Longsars]] ([[User talk:Longsars|talk]]) 07:02, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
:"Romania was so poor and backward place like third world..." So this Romania that you're talking about managed to defeat Germany and Austria-Hungary during the summer campaign of 1917 despite all this that you are saying, hmmm? Good logic there mate. [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 07:45, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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::I mean, already mentioned [[WP:NOTFORUM]] and recommended a good book for reading. Why can't we just end this pointless discussion already? As it seems like we're just going around in circles. [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 16:40, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Romania lost 70% of its territory and capital city after 3 months of fight, and suffered incredible high '''33% KIA''' ratio, one of the highest in WW1, despite Romanians '''had not numerical inferiority''' in that battles. Romanian soldiers fell like paper solders.--[[User:Longsars|Longsars]] ([[User talk:Longsars|talk]]) 10:17, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
:I recommend reading "The Romanian Battlefront in World War I" by Glenn E. Torrey
:With that you may go now, and remember [[WP:NOTFORUM]] [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 11:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
::The numbers are speaking: I recommend to see the KIA ratio of Romanian army: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_I#Personnel_and_casualties
::KIA Killed in action, or military fatalities. 33% is shocking high. [[User:Longsars|Longsars]] ([[User talk:Longsars|talk]]) 15:55, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
:::1. Irrelevant.
:::2. The casualties are all estimates, if you were to look at other sources you'll find different numbers.
:::Conclusion, go read a book. [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 16:02, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
::::No, you will not see other numbers. [[User:Longsars|Longsars]] ([[User talk:Longsars|talk]]) 05:48, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::"Wars and Population" by Boris Urlanis: [https://archive.org/details/warspopulationurlanis/page/64/mode/1up page 64] and [https://archive.org/details/warspopulationurlanis/page/85/mode/1up page 85]
:::::But still, it is irrelevant. And we are already straying too much from the discussion. [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 18:38, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
::::::Wiki doesn't use old cold-war era books, if there are other newer publications. Newer publications support the 33% KIA. [[User:Longsars|Longsars]] ([[User talk:Longsars|talk]]) 07:05, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::::Wikipedia uses whatever sources are available. And what "newer publications" use those numbers?
:::::::Also, to repeat, how is this relevant to the discussion? [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 12:57, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
::::::::"Wikipedia uses whatever sources are available." Only if the only existing topic specific related books are so rare , that we had no other option just to use the old books. But this is not the case with WW1 topics. So Cold-War era books are a bit backward/unreliable in this sense. [[User:Longsars|Longsars]] ([[User talk:Longsars|talk]]) 14:29, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::Alright, enough with this. If you want to continue the discussion about the casualties I left you a message on your talk page, we can continue there, as this is going off-topic. If you have any comments to make regarding the subject of "Why don't you mention the Serbo-French army or Czechoslovak army as allies of Romanians" then continue here. [[User:Alin2808|Alin2808]] ([[User talk:Alin2808|talk]]) 18:08, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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