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==Modern mandates==
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You have to suspend your sense of disbelief to even accept the notion that after killing or wounding 40 million people, the Great Powers were best suited for the task of civilizing the so-called backward peoples. [[User:Harlan wilkerson|harlan]] ([[User talk:Harlan wilkerson|talk]]) 05:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
==Addressing the split of the Mandate for Palestine==
I had edited the following text "In April 1921, the Emirate of Transjordan was provisionally added as an autonomous area under the United Kingdom" into "In April 1921, the Emirate of Transjordan was separated from Mandatory Palestine and provisionally added as an autonomous area under the United Kingdom" as it more clearly states that this territory was already under a Mandate. This edit was reverted, why? The text implies that this was a new area added as an additional Mandate, which is incorrect and not in dispute.
The Edit Summary for the revertion of my edit states "Undid revision 1211610126 by Dotancohen since Mandatory Palestine did not exist in 1921, Transjordan could not have been removed from it. The text was correct before." however that is incorrect. The Mandatory Palestine page clearly states "Mandatory Palestine was a geopolitical entity that existed between 1920 and 1948" and in fact the Mandate for Palestine concerned both Mandatory Palestine and The Emirate of Transjordan, the latter of which was seperated from the first, leaving only the first to be administered under the Mandate for Palestine.
If nobody has issue, I will add my previous edit back, as the current text is confusing and the fact stated is not disputed. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dotancohen|Dotancohen]] ([[User talk:Dotancohen#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dotancohen|contribs]]) 16:41, 6 March 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
==Germany==
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===Third opinion===
Of the two versions in dispute, i.e. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=League_of_Nations_mandate&oldid=461096157 this] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=League_of_Nations_mandate&oldid=461181708 this], I think it is pretty clear that the second version is preferable as it explains what happened after the mandate ended as with all the other mandates. Also, the insertion of the sentence [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=League_of_Nations_mandate&oldid=461222845#Class_A_mandates "Following the war, the area between the State of Israel and the area west of the Jordan was controlled by Israel."] is very confusing. What "area" is being referred to? Cheers, [[User:Number 57|<
:Number 57 - Unfortunately the source given for the second version is un-informative. The reader learns precisely NOTHING by following it. You apparently didn't read the sources, but prefer the version with a source that says zip... What was it supposed to have said? Please quote it...
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://"Following the war, the area between the [[Israel|State of Israel]] and the area west of the [[Jordan River|Jordan]]<ref name=Shertok_Knesset_not_included_in_Israel>Israel's foreign relations publisher=Ministry for Foreign Affairs page 275 "As for the frontier between the State of Israel and the area west of the Jordan which is not included in Israel, there, too, our aim is peace, and peace negotiations. We have always declared that we should prefer to see a separate Arab State in that area, but we have not set this as a condition sine qua non to a settlement. This question, too, is a matter for discussion."[http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Foreign+Relations/Israels+Foreign+Relations+since+1947/1947-1974/2+Israel-s+position+on+its+frontiers.htm]</ref> was controlled by [[Israel]]. Until 1967, the [[West Bank]] was under the control of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and the [[Egypt]]ian-occupied [[Gaza Strip]]. Small slivers of territory east and south of the [[Sea of Galilee]] were held by [[Syria]]<ref name="OsmańczykMango2003">{{cite book|author1=Edmund Jan Osmańczyk|author2=Anthony Mango|title=Encyclopedia of the United Nations and International Agreements: G to M|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=fSIMXHMdfkkC&pg=PA1178|accessdate=17 November 2011|year=2003|publisher=Taylor & Francis|isbn=978-0-415-93922-5|page=1178}}</ref>.// ... [[User:Talknic|talknic]] ([[User talk:Talknic|talk]]) 12:41, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
::Given the basicness of the facts in question, the sources are not really required (I fail to see how anyone could dispute the statement currently in the text about what happened to the land) and are not a reason for reverting to a totally uninformative version. If you don't like the sources, I would suggest just removing them.
::The sentence "the area between the State of Israel and the area west of the Jordan[1] was controlled by Israel" still makes no sense. What is this area that is being talked about? The West Bank? No-Mans Land in the Galilee or Jerusalem? Latrun? If you can define what this area is, then there should be no problem in adding it to the existing text. However, forcing readers to check a reference to figure out what on earth this refers to should not happen. [[User:Number 57|<
:::Number 57 - ''"Given the basicness of the facts in question, the sources are not really required"'' When it suits you, of course... however ''The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lead_section '''according to reliable, published sources''']'' The current source tells the reader exactly NOTHING!
:::''"not a reason for reverting to a totally uninformative version"'' Nice try. I guess you'll say anything in desperation. The reverted source informs the reader of what Shertock described as '''"..the frontier between the State of Israel and the area west of the Jordan which is not included in Israel"''' The current source tells the reader exactly NOTHING!
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::::Nothing has been done "in desperation" - I have no vested interest in this article and came here solely to provide a third opinion. Do you dispute the text
:::::<small>"A plan for peacefully dividing the remainder of the Mandate failed. The Mandate ended at midnight on 14 May 1948, and the 1948 Arab–Israeli War began. Following the war, 75% of the area west of the Jordan River was controlled by the new State of Israel. Other parts, until 1967, formed the West Bank of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and the Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip. Small slivers of territory east and south of the Sea of Galilee were held by Syria."</small>
::::If so, how do you dispute it? If you do not dispute it and are only complaining about the references, change or remove them. [[User:Number 57|<
::I have also reverted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=League_of_Nations_mandate&action=historysubmit&diff=461588952&oldid=461588303 this edit] you made, as your edit summary ("The source given says 1921. The article at that point is talking about a post 1948 period") is incorrect - the sentence the text was added to begins "In April 1921", so the article at that point is clearly not talking about a post-1948 period. [[User:Number 57|<
:::Number 57 - My error on the revert. Apologies ... [[User:Talknic|talknic]] ([[User talk:Talknic|talk]]) 01:17, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Togoland ==
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Cheers.—[[User:InternetArchiveBot|'''<span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">InternetArchiveBot</span>''']] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">([[User talk:InternetArchiveBot|Report bug]])</span> 06:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
==Galicia==
Galicia is entirely missing from this page. The [[League of Nations]] awarded [[Poland]] a 25-year Mandate of Galicia in 1919. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C4:B617:7D01:AD49:740:466B:5C50|2A00:23C4:B617:7D01:AD49:740:466B:5C50]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C4:B617:7D01:AD49:740:466B:5C50|talk]]) 10:52, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
: It wasn't a League of Nations mandate. It was an action of the Supreme Council at the Peace Conference. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small></sup> 14:48, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
== class B ==
if the last phrase is a duplicate of the general rule on fortifications, it is best removed because causes confusion; otherwise the difference should be made clearer.
Perhaps the phrase is simply in the wrong place (B rather than C class), because I feel useful to state explicitly that this prohibition had the precedence on the integral nature. pietro [[Special:Contributions/151.29.59.56|151.29.59.56]] ([[User talk:151.29.59.56|talk]]) 21:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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