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== Hillary Clinton's role in the disintegration of Libya's government ==
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== This article should be combined with [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]] ==
It makes sense to combine both pages (not least as this page has a lot of work to be done on it), and I feel it is just duplicating the same information. [[User:The Emperor of Byzantium|<
:At this stage, [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]] is one of the four articles summarized here, so it's really not a duplication. If and when the Libyan conflicts reach a conclusion, we can reconsider how the information is organized across the various articles. —[[User:Patrug|Patrug]] ([[User talk:Patrug|talk]]) 16:43, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
==Requested move 25 May 2017==
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* '''Revert back to "Libyan Crisis (2011–present)"''' per above, and it has been a stable title for years. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 05:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
* '''Revert''' back to '''{{no redirect|Libyan Crisis (2011–present)}}''' in the spirit of [[WP:RMUM]]; that recent move should have been discussed. Sort out the issues above and then propose a new title. — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #93010b; background:#ef0000; padding:2px; color:#efe6e6; text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em
:*Any thoughts on my proposal? [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 17:07, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
::*It looks fine if you want to do the merging work. What about [[Libyan Civil War (2011)]] and [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]]? <small> — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #93010b; background:#ef0000; padding:2px; color:#efe6e6; text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em
:::*I would recommend that [[Libyan Civil War (2011)]] be moved to one of these titles;
::::*{{no redirect|Libyan Revolution of 2011}}
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::::*[[Revolutionary phase of the Libyan Civil War]]
::::As for [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]], I would recommend that its content be split between this and other articles (such as [[List of armed groups in the Libyan Civil War]] and the timeline pages) and possibly some new pages (like [[Foreign involvement in the Libyan Civil War]] or [[Libyan peace process]]). [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 21:25, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::Looks fine to me. {{no redirect|Libyan Revolution of 2011}} is preferable to the other two which are too vague. <small> — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #93010b; background:#ef0000; padding:2px; color:#efe6e6; text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em
* '''Oppose, Revert to "crisis'''. The proposal clashes with [[Libyan Civil War (2011)]]. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 07:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
* '''Support''' with {{u|Charles Essie}}'s proposals above as well, and also per AjaxSmack above. "Libyan Civil War" is the common name for the whole shebang, from 2011 to present, and as such should be a broad concept / overarching article on that. Charles's peoposals for the other two "civil war" articles seem sensible too. {{no redirect|Libyan Crisis (2011–present)}} is/was an awful title for this. — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 11:46, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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==Requested move 28 December 2017==
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The result of the move request was: '''NO CONSENSUS''' No real consensus on changing the naming scheme; the moves are somewhat interrelated so no consensus for individual moves. This also means a return to status quo, meaning a return to [[Libyan Crisis (2011–present)]] for this page.(also based on the support in the above discussion for return to crisis)<small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:Galobtter|Galobtter]] ([[User talk:Galobtter|pingó mió]]) 11:26, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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[[:Libyan Civil War (2011–present)]] → {{no redirect|Libyan Civil War}} – The proposal I made in the last move discussion seemed get some support, so I'm reviving it here.
#Move [[Libyan Civil War (2011)]] to {{no redirect|Libyan Revolution of 2011}}
#Merge all content from [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]] into this page, [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]], [[List of armed groups in the Libyan Civil War]] and new articles focusing on [[Foreign involvement in the Libyan Civil War|foreign involvement in the war]] and the [[Libyan peace process|peace process]].
#Merge all content from [[Aftermath of the 2011 Libyan Civil War]] and [[Timeline of the 2011 Libyan Civil War]] into the other timeline pages.
#Move [[Timeline of the 2011 Libyan Civil War before military intervention]] to [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (15 February–19 March 2011)]].
#Move [[Timeline of the 2011 Libyan Civil War and military intervention (19 March–May)]] to [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (19 March–May 2011)]].
#Move [[Timeline of the 2011 Libyan Civil War and military intervention (June–15 August)]] to [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (June–15 August 2011)]].
#Move [[Timeline of the 2011 Libyan Civil War and military intervention (16 August – 23 October)]] to [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (16 August–23 October 2011)]].
#Move [[Factional violence in Libya (2011–14)]] to [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (1 November 2011–16 May 2014)]].
#Move [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]] to [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (16 May 2014–present)]].
What does everyone think? [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 18:52, 28 December 2017 (UTC)<small>--'''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Galobtter|Galobtter]] ([[User talk:Galobtter|pingó mió]]) 05:44, 5 January 2018 (UTC)</small>
*'''Support''' This is a broad concept article, with information about both [[Libyan Civil War (2011)]] and [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]]. I'm going to nominate [[Libyan Civil War (disambiguation)]], the disambiguation page, for deletion. [[User:GeoffreyT2000|GeoffreyT2000]] ([[User talk:GeoffreyT2000|talk]]) 20:20, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
*:Procedurally closed. Let's keep the discussion here; we won't need an AfD to deal with the changes if there's consensus here. [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 02:33, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
*::As the disambiguation page refers to a good number of articles, and it doesn't seem that will change no matter the result of the discussion here, I think it's not necessary to have it deleted. It's not bothering anything at the (disambiguation) title. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 19:28, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
*{{Ping|AjaxSmack|Amakuru|George Ho|Patrug|The Emperor of Byzantium}} You were all involved in past discussions. Would you like to weigh in? [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 22:35, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
*'''Question''': I haven't been following this as much lately, so...is this widely regarded in scholarship/news/etc. as a single civil war? i.e. can it be reliably sourced, or is it [[WP:OR|OR]]/[[WP:SYNTH|SYNTH]]? I seem to remember most news sources stating that the 2011 war (overthrow of Gaddhafi) and the 2014-present war (Haftar et al.) as being entirely separate wars. Even if there's an underlying umbrella conflict, has it been described as a ''single'' civil war as opposed to multiple civil wars? We have the current titles/setup for a reason, and we'll need solid sourcing if we want to change it. [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 02:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
:*Good question. I would support if sources were provided, and I doubt there are any describing the period covered by the "Factional violence" article as part of a wider civil war. [[User:Fitzcarmalan|Fitzcarmalan]] ([[User talk:Fitzcarmalan|talk]]) 20:33, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Through a quick Google search, I managed to find two good sources: [https://books.google.com.eg/books?id=JRDPCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT197&lpg=PT197&dq=libya+%22civil+war+since+2011%22&source=bl&ots=dQJi9p51aB&sig=dd6HvtcWLK5YUFxTzTNa3HXpzdE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlh_iblL_YAhXRh7QKHa9-DD8Q6AEIPjAE#v=onepage&q=libya%20%22civil%20war%20since%202011%22&f=false this] (March 2016) and [https://www.thenational.ae/world/extremist-groups-escalating-attacks-in-libya-1.250653 this] (December 2014). So maybe we're past the WP:OR concerns for now. And while seemingly not a widespread view, this RM proposal is well placed and might help deal with any potential confusion in regards to the Libyan crisis topic. Titles for subtopic articles of the current civil war will indeed become quite an annoyance and excessively long by the time we're faced with a [[WP:SIZE]] issue with [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]]. If we decided to split chronologically, we would have no other choice than creating subarticles with "Libyan Civil War (date)" in the title (and obviously we can't have [[Timeline of the 2014–present Libyan Civil War (14 May 2014–30 March 2016)]], for example). Also, per [[WP:PRECISE]], I'd suggest we move the original civil war article to [[Libyan Revolution]] (disambiguation page) and omit the "of 2011" part, which I believe to be an unnecessary precision. A hatnote linking to [[Libyan Revolution (disambiguation)]] would suffice. [[User:Fitzcarmalan|Fitzcarmalan]] ([[User talk:Fitzcarmalan|talk]]) 22:55, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
:*Sounds good to me. [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 23:12, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
*It seems that a series of what will be "Timeline of the Libyan Civil War..." articles will be subtopics of an article called "Libyan Revolution (of 2011)". I am correct? Does it matter? — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;"> '''AjaxSmack''' </span>]] 22:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
:*[[Libyan Civil War (2011)]] and [[Libyan Civil War (2011–present)]] are two different articles. The proposed timeline articles are meant to be subtopics of the latter, which was originally [[Libyan crisis (2011–present)]]. Problem is, this is more than just a move request. The OP is also proposing that we merge [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]] into [[Timeline of the Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]] (the part I'm uncomfortable with), and split the remaining "non-timeline" elements into new articles like [[Foreign involvement in the Libyan Civil War]] and [[Libyan peace process]]. {{ping|Charles Essie}} Why don't we simply move it back to "Libyan crisis"? [[User:Fitzcarmalan|Fitzcarmalan]] ([[User talk:Fitzcarmalan|talk]]) 11:44, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
::*Because this ''is'' a civil war. [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 15:40, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
:::*Only a few sources describe this entire period as one single "civil war" and I did my part in finding some of them. What you need to do is convince us why it's better than "crisis" (I prefer "civil war" myself, by the way). And what else can we do to [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]]? I say we keep it as it is, for now. Reducing it to a mere "timeline" article understates its significance relative to the 2011 events. [[User:Fitzcarmalan|Fitzcarmalan]] ([[User talk:Fitzcarmalan|talk]]) 17:40, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
::::*I’ve been having second thoughts as well about my proposal regarding [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]]. Merging it probably isn’t the way to go. What would you suggest for the other pages? [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 03:22, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
*I think [[Libyan Civil War (2014-present)]] shouldn’t be included in any merger. It is not the same war as the civil war of 2011, and most sources consider them separate but related conflicts. The ongoing civil war is the latest in a series of conflicts in Libya that started with the civil war of 2011. First Gaddafi was overthrown, then divisions among the victors and other factors led to internal conflict, and then that conflict resulted in a full-blown second civil war. It’s similar to the situation in Iraq, Somalia, and Afghanistan, where one conflict quickly (in some cases almost immediately) led to another. As for some of the other articles, I think that the individual pages relating to each stage of the fighting (the 2011 conflict, the factional violence, and the ongoing civil war) should remain separate, but the other articles could be merged together. [[User:Anasaitis|Anasaitis]] ([[User talk:Anasaitis|talk]]) 00:48, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
:*I agree regarding 2014-present as well. Since my question above about sourcing, there have been 2 sources that say that they're the same, but many many more, including I'd say most in the articles themselves, stating that they're different wars (though part of the same overarching conflict). [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 02:53, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
::*You’re both right. Merging [[Libyan Civil War (2014–present)]] would be a mistake. Clearly this is multi-phase civil war like [[War in Afghanistan (1978–present)|Afghanistan]], [[Iraq conflict (2003–present)|Iraq]] and [[Somali Civil War|Somalia]]. I don’t know why I didn’t see that. [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 17:11, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
:::*Yeah. If the sources were more recent (i.e. reflected a changing trend in classification or whatever), I'd be amenable to lumping them together, but as it stands it's probably not the best way to go, as with the other examples. [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 09:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
*'''Neutral-ish. Weakly support move #0 to Libyan Civil War. Not sure about moves #2, #3, and #8.''' I'm not educated enough on the Libyan Civil War situation to know what the general opinion of how much of one single cohesive war it is, but I do support a move from [[:Libyan Civil War (2011–present)]] → {{no redirect|Libyan Civil War}} from what I've seen. Seems like this is the primary topic of the phrase, and it's the main civil war people refer to. The version without the parenthetical disambiguator already redirects to the version with it, so getting rid of "2011-present" would be fine by me. ...However, I'm not very sure about moves #2, #3, and #8. Those seem a bit more iffy, and you might need to have a separate discussion about those few... I don't know enough to have ''too'' much of an opinion, but a few others above are not entirely 100% on those few other moves... <small>[[User:Paintspot|Paintspot Infez]] ([[User talk:Paintspot|talk]])</small> 18:23, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
:*I agree. Left’s forget about all those moves for now and only focus on this page. [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 18:32, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
:*I do '''STRONGLY SUPPORT move #1 on Libyan Revolution of 2011''', however. I'm neutral on '''moves #4-7''', and '''don't know enough to weigh in on moves #8-9'''.<small>[[User:Paintspot|Paintspot Infez]] ([[User talk:Paintspot|talk]])</small> 18:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
*Okay, to formalize my thinking: '''oppose all'''. There's been a lot of talk about all this but little in the way of sources backing up opinions - and a glance through the sourcing already present in the articles supports the current naming scheme. [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 18:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
:*Why don't we simply move this article back to [[Libyan crisis (2011–present)]] (or better yet, "Libyan conflict") for now, wait a few months, and maybe then we'll have more sources at our disposal? [[User:Fitzcarmalan|Fitzcarmalan]] ([[User talk:Fitzcarmalan|talk]]) 20:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
::*Reverting to the status quo would be ideal to me, yes. [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 02:39, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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== Is the conflict over? ==
After the conclusion of a permanent peace between the factions in Libya, can we say that the conflict is over? Should we change the name to Libyan conflict (2011–2020)? I think the Wikipedia community should discuss that issue. [[User:MarcusTraianus|MarcusTraianus]] ([[User talk:MarcusTraianus|talk]]) 07:23, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' - With the permanent ceasefire agreement in place, it is very unlikely that the conflict would persist. [[User:Idealigic|Idealigic]] ([[User talk:Idealigic|talk]]) 06:57, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
<s>*'''Yes''' [[User:GMPX1234|GMPX1234]] ([[User talk:GMPX1234|talk]]) 01:34, 29 November 2020 (UTC)</s> <small>— [[User:GMPX1234|GMPX1234]] ([[User talk:GMPX1234|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GMPX1234|contribs]]) is a confirmed [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Waskerton|sock puppet]] of [[User:Waskerton|Waskerton]] ([[User talk:Waskerton|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Waskerton|contribs]]). </small>
*'''No''' - Some low level of conflict continues in spite of the news of "permanent peace" accords which illustrates a de facto continuation of hostilities among elements of some factions in spite of a de jure apparent state of peace. Also it's simply to early, a mere few weeks, and thus far too little time to see if this peace holds. There is a mere ceasefire agreement, and peace talks and meetings to discuss accords, and an agreement to hold elections in 18 months. This is the phase in most wars and conflicts that occur at the end, which means the conflict is winding down, in its terminal phase, but it's to early yet to tell if this represents a true and lasting end to this phase of civil war in Libya. [[User:KJS ml343x|KJS ml343x]] ([[User talk:KJS ml343x|talk]]) 14:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
*'''No''' - Some sources disagree with the idea that persistence in conflict is unlikely or that the ceasefire is permanent. A top UN official was among those who highlighted ongoing challenges. One observer noted that ISIS is still active in the country. [https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/12/1079122 [1]][https://thearabweekly.com/ceasefire-fire-holding-libya-progress-seen-fragile [2]] [https://www.fairobserver.com/region/middle_east_north_africa/alexander-werman-libya-conflict-peace-talks-ceasefire-gna-lna-oil-production-news-18861/[3]] [[User:Chillabit|Chillabit]] ([[User talk:Chillabit|talk]]) 12:39, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
'''Comment:''' I reverted the title changes to the status quo (the original title: "Libyan Crisis (2011 - present)". There were two previous requested moves of no consensus to move the page ([[#Requested move 25 May 2017]] and [[#Requested move 28 December 2017]]). [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Libyan_Crisis_(2011_%E2%80%93_present)&diff=979384712&oldid=978372469 One of the changes was made by a sockpuppet]. --[[User:Fontaine347|Fontaine347]] ([[User talk:Fontaine347|talk]]) 00:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
*'''No''' per above opposition. Wikipedia is not news and it is still too soon to tell. ~ [[User:HAL333|<span style="background:red; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid red;">'''HAL'''</span>]][[User talk:HAL333|<span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid red;">'''333'''</span>]] 19:40, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
== Requested move 16 December 2020 ==
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The result of the move request was: '''Moved''' to [[Libyan Crisis (2011–present)]] as agreed in RM and per [[MOS:RANGE]]. What's contested here (and how it ended up at spaced-dash title)? [[User:No such user|No such user]] ([[User talk:No such user|talk]]) 16:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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[[:Libyan Crisis (2011 – present)]] → {{no redirect|Libyan Crisis (2011–present)}} – The dash in the date is not supposed to have spaces around it [[User:Ridax2020|Ridax2020]] ([[User talk:Ridax2020|talk]]) 12:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
:<small>This is a contested technical request ([[Special:Permalink/994573101|permalink]]). [[User:Ridax2020|Ridax2020]] ([[User talk:Ridax2020|talk]]) 12:56, 16 December 2020 (UTC)</small>
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== Is the crisis finally over? ==
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After the end of the Civil War, the formation of the government and the adoption of the joint budget of Libya, can we say that the war crisis is over? What date for the end of the crisis should be in the title: 2020 (signing of a permanent truce) or 2021 (adoption of a unified budget)? [[User:MarcusTraianus|MarcusTraianus]] ([[User talk:MarcusTraianus|talk]]) 08:50, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' The war may be over, but it is still too early to say that the crisis is over as well. The sources are still hesitant about the situation in Libya: [https://web.archive.org/web/20210218002905/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/world/middleeast/libya-government-qaddafi.html NY Times] [https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/perspective/20210216-libya-10-years-on-can-the-war-torn-country-finally-turn-the-page France24] [https://archive.vn/RyFxZ The Economist] --[[User:Fontaine347|Fontaine347]] ([[User talk:Fontaine347|talk]]) 15:43, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' - I also think it's too early to pop the champagne. We are still in a phase where the prime-minister is testing the waters with a transitional government<ref>{{cite news |title=Libya’s new PM to unveil transitional government |url=https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/25/libyas-new-pm-to-unveil-team-in-first-hurdle-of-transition |access-date=25 February 2021 |work=[[Al Jazeera]] |agency=AP |date=25 February 2021}}</ref>. There is uncertainty<ref>{{cite news |last1=Magdy |first1=Mirette |title=Libya’s Premier Tests His Authority With Interim Government |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-25/libya-s-premier-tests-his-authority-with-new-interim-government |access-date=25 February 2021 |work=[[Bloomberg News]] |date=25 February 2021}}</ref> on how much this government will be able to unify the parties and until that become clear, I wouldn't rush to call the crisis over. [[User:PraiseVivec|PraiseVivec]] ([[User talk:PraiseVivec|talk]]) 19:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' I don't think the war is even over to be perfectly honest. [[User:Boynamedsue|Boynamedsue]] ([[User talk:Boynamedsue|talk]]) 20:39, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' Wikipedia is not news. ~ [[User:HAL333|<span style="background:red; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid red;">'''HAL'''</span>]][[User talk:HAL333|<span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid red;">'''333'''</span>]] 20:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' Not our call to make. We wait to see when sources say it's over. - [[User:Andrewaskew|Andrewaskew]] ([[User talk:Andrewaskew|talk]]) 05:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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== Requested move 26 March 2021 ==
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The result of the move request was: Not moved yet, there is no consensus that the crisis is over now. {{nac}} ([[User talk:Buidhe|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Buidhe|c]]) '''[[User:buidhe|<span style="color: black">buidhe</span>]]''' 17:16, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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[[:Libyan Crisis (2011–present)]] → {{no redirect|Libyan crisis (2011–2021)}} – Entire crisis ended following the formation of the unity government recently, also “crisis” has to be in lower caps. [[User:Ridax2020|Ridax2020]] ([[User talk:Ridax2020|talk]]) 18:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
:<small>This is a contested technical request ([[Special:Permalink/1014348610|permalink]]). [[User:Ridax2020|Ridax2020]] ([[User talk:Ridax2020|talk]]) 18:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)</small>
*'''Oppose.''' See discussion above [[#Is the crisis finally over?]], hasty proposal since that debate is underway with unanimous opposition to any change. --[[User:Fontaine347|Fontaine347]] ([[User talk:Fontaine347|talk]]) 17:27, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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== Please Don't Corrupt Information About Libya HDI Ranking ==
It is confirmed by even the source that was used to claim that Libya no longer has one of the highest [[human development index]] (HDI) rankings among countries in Africa" contradicts that claims, as Libya is one of only nine countries in Africa to have a high HDI ranking and ranks sixth among countries in Africa. [https://hdr.undp.org/system/files/documents/global-report-document/hdr2021-22pdf_1.pdf][[Special:Contributions/137.70.12.59|137.70.12.59]] ([[User talk:137.70.12.59|talk]]) 14:58, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
== Requested move 16 July 2024 ==
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The result of the move request was: '''MOVED.''' Appears to be uncontroversial; MOS is clear. [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] ([[User talk:Hadal|talk]]) 04:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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[[:Libyan Crisis (2011–present)]] → {{no redirect|Libyan crisis (2011–present)}} – Revert the undiscussed over-capitalization of 2014 (there have been lots of move discussions since, but nobody mentioned going back to the original before the undiscussed caps; see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Libyan_crisis_(2011%E2%80%93present)&action=history history]). Sources [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Libyan+Crisis&year_start=2010&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=0&case_insensitive=true mostly use lowercase]. [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 03:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
* '''Support''' per nom. [[User:RodRabelo7|RodRabelo7]] ([[User talk:RodRabelo7|talk]]) 16:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
* <small>Note: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Libya|WikiProject Libya]], [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa|WikiProject Africa]], [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history|WikiProject Military history]], and [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Post-Cold War task force|WikiProject Military history/Post-Cold War task force]] have been notified of this discussion. [[User:RodRabelo7|RodRabelo7]] ([[User talk:RodRabelo7|talk]]) 16:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</small>
*'''Support'''—no-brainer. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 00:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per [[MOS:CAPS]], [[WP:NCCAPS]], [[WP:CONSISTENT]]. WP does not apply capitalization to any descriptive terms for conflicts or other events unless and until they are capitalized as conventional proper names by virtually all sources (like [[Vietnam War]], for example). Cf. lead of MOS:CAPS: {{tq|only words and phrases that are {{em|consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources}} are capitalized in Wikipedia}} (emphasis in original). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 16:29, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
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