Talk:Oaksterdam, Oakland

To whomever wants to merge Oaksterdam with Downtown Oakland

My first thought, bad idea, until I hear your rationale. Oaksterdam is kind of a sub neighborhood within downtown Oakland proper. I'm hesitant to label its boundaries but I'd say it's roughly bordered by 15th street on the Southwest, Webster Street on the Southeast, 19th Street on the Northeast, and Telegraph Ave on the Northwest. It's characterized by mixed use office and residential buildings with unique historic architecture older than the skyscrapers south of 14th St, and an abundance of ground floor retail shop spaces and restaurants and cafes. It has it's own history and cultural undercurrent also, which is distinctly different than the daytime office worker fabric south of 15th Street. I also believe it's geographically, anthropologically, and economically distinct enough from the rest of Downtown Oakland to warrant it's own article. Critical Chris (talk) 10:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Icamepica, funny you nominated this for merge on the day of an AP news story, which I just found out about an hour ago before linking it up to this article just now. Why do you believe the articles should be merged? I'm inclined to boldly remove your tag immediately, absent any forthcoming rationale on your part. I will leave it up for a week or so, to let other editors weigh in.Critical Chris (talk) 10:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

If no one objects, I'd like to remove the merge tag.Critical Chris (talk) 17:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I object. Oaksterdam isn't a neighborhood. It's a nickname used by the canabis culture. Nobody's heard of it outside Oakland. Its also shrinking fast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.240.236 (talk) 02:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Oaksterdam is indeed a cultural district in Oakland, as well as a movement in itself. There have been thousands of students since 2007 who have learned the "Oaksterdam method" of medical cannabis preparation and business. With cannabis legalization in California being led by Oaksterdam, it is a noteworthy inclusion to wikipedia in its own entry. Do not merge with city of Oakland. U62 (talk) 08:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

This article should be merged with Downtown Oakland

"Oaksterdam" is a fad name for a small area where medical marijuana activity has been tolerated for the last 8 years or so. The neighborhood has been referred to as simply "downtown" for over a century. The medical marijuana tolerance in Oakland should be covered in the Downtown Oakland article, but nobody but stoners calls this area Oaksterdam, so as a neighborhood name it deserves only a peripheral mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.240.236 (talk) 17:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Wow I agree. And I live in Oaksterdam.unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/192.168.0.1 (talk) 17:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.106.245 (talk)

Agree, though it seems there is concensus to keep it when there probably is not. It's a cultural destination but not a neighborhood proper (much like the "Koreatown" on Telegraph Avenue). Perhaps a new discussion on merge is in order...--Chimino (talk) 09:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)