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Another, sad Wikipedia fail. [[User:Ghostofnemo|Ghostofnemo]] ([[User talk:Ghostofnemo|talk]]) 01:00, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
:No, this was a success ... material that did not refer to police states was correctly rejected as a source for statements about police states. To treat "police state" and "authoritarian regime" or "unfree state" as synonymous (they clearly are not; constitutional states can be authoritarian and unfree) on your say-so would have been a failure. -- [[Special:Contributions/184.189.217.91|184.189.217.91]] ([[User talk:184.189.217.91|talk]]) 04:40, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 
== USA ==
 
The USA is a police state too.--[[User:Aktionsfront für Wahrheitsfindung|Aktionsfront für Wahrheitsfindung]] ([[User talk:Aktionsfront für Wahrheitsfindung|talk]]) 09:00, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
:: I wonder why USA is not listed as a police state? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.232.168.184|88.232.168.184]] ([[User talk:88.232.168.184#top|talk]]) 14:57, 10 December 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::There is already a talk section on the United States above. Despite many attempts to document many journalistic and academic sources showing solid proof of the police state in the United States, the extremely biased editor above has taken the Trump stance of repeating "wrong" until he is able to silence his opposition. Leaving out the United States, as well as allies like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, and Israel, are despicable omissions to this article. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.131.223.93|69.131.223.93]] ([[User talk:69.131.223.93#top|talk]]) 04:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Objective standards ==
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For example, [[Freedom House]] uses these criteria: "For each country and territory, Freedom in the World analyzes the electoral process, political pluralism and participation, the functioning of the government, freedom of expression and of belief, associational and organizational rights, the rule of law, and personal autonomy and individual rights." https://freedomhouse.org/report-types/freedom-world You could also use incarceration rates, number of people killed or injured by security personnel, number of people charged with ideological crimes, etc. [[User:Ghostofnemo|Ghostofnemo]] ([[User talk:Ghostofnemo|talk]]) 03:22, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
:Here is an example from an article by a former U.S. State Department employee: "... Saudi Arabia remains one of the world’s most authoritarian regimes. Women must have the consent of a male guardian to enroll in college, look for a job or travel. They cannot swim in public or try on clothes when shopping. The Saudi government also routinely arrests people without judicial review, according to Human Rights Watch. Citizens can be executed for nonviolent drug crimes, often in public. Forty-eight people were beheaded in the first four months of 2018 alone. Saudi Arabia ranks just above North Korea on political rights, civil liberties and other measures of freedom, according to the democracy watchdog Freedom House. But its wealth, strategic Middle East location and petroleum exports keep the Saudis as a vital U.S. ally." https://theconversation.com/saudi-arabia-is-a-repressive-regime-and-so-are-a-lot-of-us-allies-105106 [[User:Ghostofnemo|Ghostofnemo]] ([[User talk:Ghostofnemo|talk]]) 05:29, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 
== Bias ==
 
This article fails to mention well-recognized police states like Australia and the United States of America. This is a striking omission that seems to indicate bias on the part of wiki editors. [[Special:Contributions/2601:401:180:E1E0:D1E7:2003:F121:BE71|2601:401:180:E1E0:D1E7:2003:F121:BE71]] ([[User talk:2601:401:180:E1E0:D1E7:2003:F121:BE71|talk]]) 18:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 
== Should the United States be mentioned? ==
 
The US has been called a police state many times over the years. Should it be mentioned in this article? [[User:Momo824|Momo824]] ([[User talk:Momo824|talk]]) 11:53, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:As well as Israel and Saudi Arabia. It's really strange how the biggest police state in the world and its closest allies are mysteriously unlisted. [[User:WhiteNoise17|WhiteNoise17]] ([[User talk:WhiteNoise17|talk]]) 11:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)