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Doesn't Lithuania have some sort of proportional representation system?
 
== Only Two? ==
 
"There are, basically, only two PR voting methods, party list PR and the single transferable vote (STV)"
 
What about Reweighted Range Voting?
 
[[User:Jack Waugh|Jack Waugh]] ([[User talk:Jack Waugh|talk]]) 00:49, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 
:The article has to reflect the sources ([[WP:VERIFY]]) and they don't mention reweighted range voting. The operative word is "basically", RRV is "basically" STV with scoring. In any case, the lead can't mention everything, it is a summary ([[WP:LEAD]]). One can certainly argue that RRV and other STV variants should be mentioned at the end of the STV section in the body (although RRV isn't mentioned in WP at all, not even in [[Range voting]]). --[[User:BalCoder|BalCoder]] ([[User talk:BalCoder|talk]]) 17:46, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 
::Source 4 says "There are two major types of PR system—List PR and Single Transferable Vote (STV)". How about using that quote? [[User:Rjm at sleepers|Rjm at sleepers]] ([[User talk:Rjm at sleepers|talk]]) 19:13, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Some of the sources talk about types so I can't complain about that. Nonetheless, others (Amy and ERS) don't, and keep it simple, so why change it? The text as it is presents the reader with the bald, correct, fact of only two PR voting methods - that there are variants is unimportant at this point. The word "basically" (Amy also uses it) not only implies these variants but also prepares the reader for the next sentence and the fact that plenty of sources list MMP as a third distinct method (the two sentences were originally joined by a "but" but that was too much for someone). With your change you have to make MMP a type too. There are a number of other problems with your quote: "major" is redundant because "type" implies a major grouping - are there any minor types? "PR system" needs to be "PR voting system", "PR system" is simply wrong because sortition is omitted which is clearly a PR system - but not a voting system. Is it "party list PR" or "list PR"? Forder also uses "list PR", others "party list PR", the article already uses "party list PR". The article does not capitalize voting system names. [[User:BalCoder|BalCoder]] ([[User talk:BalCoder|talk]]) 08:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
::::Why change it? Because some people (including myself) find "method" more specific than type. A type of PR system includes a number of different methods for implementing it. I also think "basically" is unencyclopedic and "only" is a value judgement. How about: "There are two PR voting types: party list PR and the single transferable vote (STV)"? [[User:Rjm at sleepers|Rjm at sleepers]] ([[User talk:Rjm at sleepers|talk]]) 13:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::Sure. Thanks at least for discussing it. [[User:BalCoder|BalCoder]] ([[User talk:BalCoder|talk]]) 16:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
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