Talk:Reinhard Heydrich

Grave Opened

BBC report his grave was opened - so someone knows where it is. Is this noteworthy enough for inclusion and if so where on the page?

"Grave of top Nazi leader Reinhard Heydrich opened in Berlin"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50806873

David Crayford ☎ 15:01, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

The way the article reads, the location was indeed known all along, but not disclosed to the public. Whoever tried to open was deemed to have "inside knowledge", so it's worth mentioning 2001:BB6:78A5:C600:8546:F64D:261F:DA4D (talk) 18:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Him being a me-109E fighter pilot and being awarded the silver Combat Flight Badge, which normally were awarded after 60 combat missions?

No mention of this besides his awards. Below was copied and pasted from this link here: https://www.historynet.com/reinhard-heydrich-a-devil-with-many-faces/

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NOTBOND007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotBond007 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry but we can't host that much non-free content here. Interested persons can click on the link.— Diannaa (talk) 01:04, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

There is some content on this in Hitler's Hangman: The Life of Heydrich. I can fetch it from the library tomorrow.— Diannaa (talk) 01:07, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

I have added some content in the "Service record" section. Where data (dates in particular) disagrees between Gerwarth and the website, I went with Gerwarth. — Diannaa (talk) 00:27, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! NotBond007 (talk) 01:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Echoing Nazi theories of Hyperinflation

The article til just now adopted a Nazi talking point that the treaty of Versailles caused the hyperinflation in Germany when real historical research has shown a murkier and less clear cause. The wiki should not adopt Nazi talking points. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wideeyedraven (talk • contribs) 20:48, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

The source book notes the reparations required under the Treaty as well as Germany's enormous and unrepayable war debt. So I am going to amend the prose slightly to include that. Further discussion of the complexities of the hyperinflation would be better suited to inclusion at Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic. Make sure you cite your sources. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 01:06, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Heydrich's Kriegsmarine rank

Under Naval Career is written: "He was promoted on 1 July 1928 to the rank of sub-lieutenant (Oberleutnant zur See)". Sub-lieutenant is not the same as an Oberleutnant. An Oberleutnant ("zur See" or on land) is the HIGHEST rank of lieutenant, and a sub-lieutenant is BELOW the rank of lieutenant. Can someone please make the correction for me? I do not understand Wikipedia, and I don't want to damage anything. When you make the correctio, be careful of Oberstleutnant because that is a Lieutenant-Colonel and much higher in rank. You can reach me under fkarno@hotmail.com 87.115.253.157 (talk) 00:04, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

I have corrected the rank to first lieutenant to agree with the source, which is visible at present via Google Books. Also I removed some content that does not appear to be supported by the citation. Thanks for the correction. — Diannaa (talk) 02:26, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I don’t know where the additional editorial content came from. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 02:28, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Sepsis

Something of a mystery surrounds the direct cause of his death. Sepsis cannot stand as anything but what the inadequate autopsy caused, but that has been frequently challenged.

Sudden postoperative cardiovascular collapse and coma suggest either a cerebral embolism or severe brain ischemia following a massive pulmonary embolism with acute cor pulmonale and impaired cardiac output.20 The embolus may have been a large fat particle or a blood clot, since both materials were found in the right ventricle and in the pulmonary artery. In the absence of examination of the brain and of a search for evidence of pulmonary embolus, deep vein thromboses, and foramen ovale, an accurate diagnosis is impossible. However, sudden cardiovascular collapse and coma occurring several days after surgery in a young, previously healthy patient without long bone fractures suggests a pulmonary embolism with acute cor pulmonale and brain anoxia The cause of his death has remained obscure. Massive pulmonary embolus with acute cor pulmonale and cerebral anoxia is a reasonable assumption . .The cause of his death has remained obscure. Massive pulmonary embolus with acute cor pulmonale and cerebral anoxia is a reasonable assumption p.6

Weisz and Albury think a factor of negligence may have played a role. I have put their suggestion in a footnote. Nishidani (talk) 08:41, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

The new version is much better, with a more balanced and comprehensive view. — Diannaa (talk) 13:02, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

It is better, but in the prime text (not the footnote) it only states, "has been challenged". It does not state by who; so, it is vague and ambiguous. Kierzek (talk) 18:07, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

It's too complex a story to be other than hinted at in the Heydrich bio. Some of the details are given on The Assassination of Reinhardf Heydrickh main article. The two main points are the quarrel between Hitler's physician Theodor Morell, who had a vested interest in the new drug (whose value had been ascertained as possible because American soldiers had it as part of their standard baggage), and ostensible resistance by the doctor directly in charge. This was well know but Weisz and Albury suggest there may have been an ideological objection or even a motive to allow Heydrich to die, as was the case in 1938 regarding suspicions that proper medical care had been given to Ernst vom Rath, so that his death could provide a warrant for Kristallnacht. Interested readers can see the Heydrich assassination article, and of course click on the sources and read them if they want to follow the paper trail, and perhaps even improvve the coverage there. I'm too busy offline.Nishidani (talk) 19:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)