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:::::::::I'm not going to list them yet again, perhaps you should reread the sources you use... Moser in particular who uses "Ruthenian" to talk about the language in Hapsburg empire "Little Russian" in Russian Empire. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/44983536]
:::::::::The fact the source makes a point of saying it was a term used ''in'' the russian empire and not something like ''a historic term for Ukrainian'' implies that it was not substantially used outside the empire. Your use of primary and dated secondary sources rather than modern secondary ones also does not inspire confidence in the claim and is discussed below—[[user:blindlynx|blindlynx]] 16:20, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::{{tq|implies that it was not substantially used outside the empire}} is the definition of [[WP:SYNTH]]. Thank you for making so obvious which party has to rely on synth for statements which they cannot find in any RS. [[User:Crash48|Crash48]] ([[User talk:Crash48|talk]]) 17:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::Your draft does not reflect the name of the language and the name of the country not always always matching. Please hold yourself to the same standard you expect of others—[[user:blindlynx|blindlynx]] 00:22, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::: [[William Morfill]] (1887): {{tq|The Malo, or Little Russian language, as it ought properly to be called, the term Ruthenish being without meaning -is spoken by upwards of sixteen millions of people, scattered over Southern Russia, Galicia, Bukovina and part of Northeastern Hungary.}} [[Britannica]] 1911: {{tq|Dialects. — Russian dialects fall into two main divisions — Great (Velikorusskij), including White (Belorusskij) Russian, and Little Russian (Malorusskij). The latter is spoken in a belt reaching from Galicia and the Northern Carpathians (see Ruthenians) through Podolia and Volhynia and the governments of Kiev, Chernigov, Poltava, Kharkov and the southern part of Voronezh to the Don and the Kuban upon which the Dnepr Cossacks were settled.}} These are two secondary RS, British in origin, asserting that the language of Ukrainians both inside and outside the Russian Empire was known as ''Little Russian'' at the time. You're still welcome to present any source asserting the opposite. --[[User:Crash48|Crash48]] ([[User talk:Crash48|talk]]) 08:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)