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[[User:Kurioslesouschristos|Kurioslesouschristos]] ([[User talk:Kurioslesouschristos|talk]]) 09:21, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 
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Some corrections and explanations.
California did not accredit California Coast University in 1974. California approved all of the academic content and all of the degree programs at CCU<ref> Bill Honig, Superintendent of Public Instruction, 26 February 1986 </ref>, in a state agency that discontinued operation in 2011, and was replaced by a new agency that has also given full institutional state approval to CCU. State approval is the world wide standard for education outside of the USA and a small number of other countries that fell under USA influence. Accrediting is a different category than state approval, and carries no legal authority except when and where state law is applied to it. California Department of Education issued a detailed explanation in writing about the legal and academic status of CCU<ref> California Education Code Section 94310(b) </ref> to any one who requested it, stating that CCU had full institutional approval, also the degrees were on equal legal standing with any accredited degrees that had met California requirements<ref> California Education Code 94336 </ref>, for example specialized professional accreditation or full institutional accreditation. Not all accredited degrees were legal or recognized in California<ref> California Education Code 94310(a) </ref>, as late as 1986, for example degrees from partially accredited institutions, and those with provisional accreditation that had not met additional requirements.
Doctor [[John Bear]] gave favorable reference to California Coast University in 1982<ref>{{cite book|last1=Bear|first1=John|title=Bear's Guide To Non-Traditional College Degrees - How To Get The Degree You Want|date=1982|publisher=10 Speed Press|location=Berkeley|page=87}}</ref> and 1984 at a time Doctor Bear was associated with a competing nontraditional university [[Columbia Pacific University]] which eventually lost it's state approval and was closed by California Court in 2000<ref>{{cite web|title=California Supreme Court Upholds Denial of Columbia Pacific University's Approval to Operate|url=http://web.archive.org/web/20070520155106/http://www.bppve.ca.gov/press_releases/cpuweb_dec2000.htm}}</ref>. The link to [[Columbia Pacific University|CPU]] gives useful insight to how state approval might be lost or gained, and how it differs from accreditation. [[User:Astrojed|Astrojed]] ([[User talk:Astrojed|talk]]) 02:23, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 
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There is doubt about the area of specialization for the PhD degree. CCU does not give out personal information without a signed authorization. An unsubstantiated claim has been published that the doctorate was in comparative religion. Other people have not claimed to have that type of degree from CCU, where the four schools publicized at the time were Education, Psychology, Business, and Engineering (Management Option). The question remains unanswered, with speculation on other web sites that Education might have been the topic of the PhD degree, also other CCU graduates do not necessarily share Walter Ralston Martin's opinions about Mormons. Doctor Lee W. Ralston was Dean of the Education school at CCU, and a well known educator in California. Other references are few and unreliable for Wikipedia standards. Much of the controversy occurred after Lee Ralston died. California Laws were changing and the future of CCU was in doubt. National Accreditation of CCU changed the controversy making it more specific to Walter Ralston Martin and less about legitimacy of CCU. [[User:Astrojed|Astrojed]] ([[User talk:Astrojed|talk]]) 02:53, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 
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