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There seems to be back-and-forth editing on the controversies section. I would encourage both parties involved in that, and any other parties with light to shed on the situation, to explain their actions here. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 00:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
C. Fred: My name is Jill Martin Rische and I am the eldest daughter of Dr. Walter Martin. These audio tapes are the property of Darlene Martin, the widow of Walter Martin, and the Morgans are using them against her express wishes based on an illegal third party permission granted to them by Christian Research Institute. Darlene Martin, the widow of Dr. Walter Martin, inherited his copyrights under California Estate Law and Federal Copyright Law (and my husband Kevin and I are her agents). The Morgans refuse to accept this and continue to post on the internet select quotes from these tapes in an effort to support their position. The Morgans were asked privately to take them down and when they refused to do so, they received a Cease and Desist Order from Mrs. Martin's attorneys, which they ignored. Mrs. Martin is committed to the defense of her copyrights, and we respectfully request that Wikipedia remove all quotes from Walter Martin’s NMCC class. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/209.169.211.244|209.169.211.244]] ([[User talk:209.169.211.244|talk]]) 06:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The Controversies section has existed for quite some time. During this time, my wife, one of Dr. Martin's daughters, and I have never publically commented, as we have had no first hand, non POV information to contribute. That changed when we were sent over 600 cassette tapes that were stolen from Christian Research Institute over 15 years ago. 7 of those tapes were clearly marked where Dr. Martin made comments about, expressed his opinion of, and announced his plans for Hank Hanegraaff. Our decision to make MP3s of these tapes available publically, was driven by the belief that Dr, Martin ought to be allowed to speak publically for himself, on this controversial matter. Our opinions of his words are not the point we are trying to promote. We are attempting to promote HIS words, so that any individual, who is interested, may include that material in their own examination of the evidence. To publically criticize Hank Hanegraaff is one thing. To repeatedly suppress Dr. Martin's own words, and to attempt to keep them out of the public discourse is wrong. My edits have only been made to restore the text I added to the original article section. My additions did not change a single word of the existing text. My additional words clarified for the record that the entire Martin family has not been in opposition to Hank's leadership of CRI. We have not attempted to bloat this article with the reasons why we support Hank. We have simply tried to briefly and succinctly correct the record, and make the new information available for consideration. Rick Morgan -- [[User:GraftedIn73|GraftedIn73]] ([[User talk:GraftedIn73|talk]]) 07:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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