Talk:Who Do You Love? (Bo Diddley song)

Steve Miller

Steve Miller did a song named "Who Do You Love?" but it is a completely different song and not a cover of Bo Diddley's.Alex 09:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Whilst the linked video is incredibly well done, I question the need to link to a youtube video of a random individual covering the song in question in his bedroom . . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.71.106 (talk) 02:51, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I would like to suggest adding Metropolitan Blues All Stars out of Lexington KY as one of the bands who covered Who Do You Love?-- Naaman Brown (talk) 19:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Tim Buckley

Buckley did a song called Who Do You Love but (like Miller above) it's not a cover but an original song with different lyrics and melody. Savage Pink (talk) 16:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Writer?

1st sentance says it was written & performed by Bo Diddley, but the box (and an album sleeve I have) says writer was Ellis MacDaniel. 86.175.136.123 (talk) 11:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Ellas McDaniel was Bo Diddley's real name. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 08:10, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Usage of "sic" after "Who Do You Love?"

I am currently in a dispute with another editor over their usage of sic after the song title (i.e. Who Do You Love? sic).

For reference: The Latin adverb sic ("thus"; in full: sic erat scriptum, "thus was it written") added immediately after a quoted word or phrase (or a longer piece of text), indicates that the quoted words have been transcribed exactly as spelled or presented in the original source, complete with any erroneous spelling or other presentation. The usual purpose is to inform the reader that any errors or apparent errors in the transcribed material do not arise from transcription errors, and the errors have been repeated intentionally, i.e., that they are reproduced exactly as set down by the original writer or printer.

If you do not believe there is any error or mistake you are on my team.

The dispute is a grammar-related matter.

My position is that in modern English the usage of "who" as the object of a verb is entirely acceptable and the usage of sic is unnecessary and will lead to confusion since most readers will not even register an error or mistake. The other editor's position is that "whom" is the only "correct" form for the object of a verb and that the usage of sic will prevent confusion by indicating the "incorrect" usage of "who" is presented as is.

I insist on keeping the sic off the page and the other editors insists on keeping it on the page.

I back up my position with the following:

• The actual song title is "Who Do You Love?" and implying it should be "Whom Do You Love?" is itself an error.
• The other editor's sic-ing is specific to this article. The pervasive style on Wikipedia is to let the song title be. Should we be sic-ing "In da Club" sic by 50 Cent, "Tha Shiznit" sic by Snoop Dogg sic, "Dont Look Back" sic the Bob Dylan documentary? Or "Who Do You Love?" sic the film? Sigur Ros has an album titled "( )". Should we sic that?
• Usage of "whom" in modern English is in precipitous decline. Many don't use "whom" at all or know its use well enough to use it "correctly".
• Linguists since the early 1900s have been noticing the death of "whom".
• "Whom" will be, if it is not already, just as archaic as thou, doest, chuse, etc.
• Bo Diddley used a dialect in the song and the usage of "who" for an object is not an "error" in his dialect. The Queen of England did not write and sing the song. A black man from Mississippi did. Expecting him to use "whom" is absurd. And pretending it is an "error" borders on linguistic discrimination.
• Languages change all the time. Acting like there are "rules" that are set in stone is ridiculous. In the 13th century thee/thou/thy/thine was used for the second person singular pronouns and you/your/yours was used for the second person plural pronouns. Back then using "you" for the second person singular pronoun would have been considered "incorrect". "You" evolved and assumed the position of the second person singular pronoun as well. The usage of "you" as the second person singular pronoun is certainly not an "error" anymore. Likewise, the usage of "who" has evolved and assumed the objective use in addition to the subjective use and should not be considered an "error".
• If we act like "Whom Do You Love?" is more "correct" than "Who Do You Love?" should we be acting like "Whom Doest Thou Love?" is more "correct" than "Whom Do You Love?"
• The decline of "whom" has already fallen to a point of no return and no matter how much effort is put into resurrecting "whom" it will still be as extinct as "thee/thou/thy/thine". We don't need zombie grammar.

Additionally, I argue that maintaining "whom" is the only "correct" usage is like maintaining "thee" is the only "correct" usage of the second person singular pronoun. In modern English-speaking society someone who said "thou art fair, o my beloved" would be viewed as quite unusual as opposed to someone saying "you are lovely, dear" or something similar.

I agree that at one time using "who" as the objective would not have been standard but like "you" has adapted "who" has also adapted to the point where using it as the objective is standard and will not confuse any English speakers. No one is confused by someone using "you" instead of "thee" and no one is confused by someone using "who" instead of "whom". The language has simply evolved.

Modern English dictionaries point out this dispute in the usage notes for who/whom and the consensus is that using "who" all the time is entirely acceptable.

Our full discussion is on the talk page of the user Tippx. I would like feedback from others because I feel we've descended into an edit war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dabepa (talk • contribs) 01:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)