Template talk:Authority control

NCES ID (P2484)

Retrieved from archive — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:23, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Request to add NCES school ID (P2484) to Wikipedia Authority Control. NCES IDs are issued by the National Center for Education Statistics and is used to identify public schools in the United States. An example of an article where it would be beneficial to add an external identifier would be Erasmus High School, Stuyvesant High School, and Boys and Girls High School, among other public schools in the United States of America. Kind data (talk) 00:58, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Support Grimes2 (talk) 17:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't think this belongs in the "national" section — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Changed to section 3 - "Geographic". Any other thoughts on this one? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

 Added — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:30, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Klosterdatenbank (P3407)

Request to add Klosterdatenbank ID (P3407) to Wikipedia Authority Control.

Grimes2 (talk) 07:01, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Can you give any further information? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:18, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

It is a monastery database of the Holy Roman Empire and neighboring countries. https://adw-goe.de/en/germania-sacra/database-of-monasteries/ Grimes2 (talk) 08:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

 Added — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:31, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Avoid Lua error when out of expensive function calls

I've coded this in the sandbox since Nagoya Grampus is currently Lua erroring. Any objections? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

The rest of that article uses 548 expensive functions and this template only has 3. Are you sure you're looking in the right place for efficiencies? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:11, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

The point isn't to be efficient (my sandbox change still uses 3). The point is to avoid throwing an unnecessary Lua error that's not this template's fault and is currently responsible for 7 of the 8 articles in Category:Pages with script errors * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:22, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Okay well go ahead, but this is a band-aid solution. I removed the first exist check because it wasn't needed. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:03, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

DAHR artist ID (P4457)

Request to add DAHR artist ID (P4457) to Wikipedia Authority Control. Discography of American Historical Recordings.

Grimes2 (talk) 19:03, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Can these please be collapsed by default?

Every time someone adds one of these eyesore "authority control" boxes to an article someone else has to manually add "state=collapsed" to it. This is a waste of time and attention. If they aren't going to be removed as more-or-less spam irrelevant (and inscrutable) to the vast majority of readers, they should at least be collapsed by default. –jacobolus (t) 23:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

A slight inaccuracy: Every time I add one of these to an article I always add the state=collapsed part myself. So it is not always someone else that adds them. I do think they have some value, but they should always default to collapsed. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:41, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

The current default is "autocollapse" which means that if another navbox is added to the page, then it will collapse. This default could be changed of course, if there was a consensus to do so — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:14, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't like these boxes because I find their content to be irrelevant to me as a reader (or as a wiki editor for that matter) and confusing. To begin with someone who doesn't already know what these all are has no idea what they are going to get when they click any of the links (the scary and mysterious name "Authority control" doesn't help). But if they do click, most of the linked pages consist of metadata that seems much more intended for computer consumption than human, and most of them are written in a variety of non-English languages. It's plausible some of these might be interesting to someone doing very deep research about the subject, but anyone who cares could find those pages by some other method.

Making a big eye-catching purple box for it (even a collapsed one, to be honest) seems like a net-negative for the great majority of readers. "Auto-collapse" is IMO not a good default. These should be collapsed all the time, and ideally the collapsed box should not be so brightly colored. (Has anyone considered a gray background instead?) –jacobolus (t) 14:59, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2023

217.165.130.87 (talk) 06:41, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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