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:::::::::::Ok, but it feels like you just keep disagreeing about every edit I do. I just preferred reformatting the multiple writers and directors. Although I left some edits alone if there is like 11 writers in the episode. Have a good day. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 00:35, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::It's almost like a lot of your edits are not in line with [[WP:TV]] standards, and we're trying to bring this up with you. -- [[User:Alex 21|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#02B">Alex_</span><span style="font-size:smaller;color:#02B">21</span>]]<sub> [[User talk:Alex 21|<span style="font-size:xx-small;color:#009">TALK</span>]]</sub> 02:43, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::I'm not trying to insist that every edit you make is inherently bad; I'm just confused as to why you think inserting a line break after every single person makes the content more "readable?" [[User:TheHonestEditor|TheHonestEditor]] ([[User talk:TheHonestEditor|talk]]) 02:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I added a line break for multiple writers and directors, not to mention sometimes storyboard artists. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 13:05, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::::You didn't answer my question. As far as I'm concerned, you don't need one line break if there's 2 people credited, you don't need 2 line breaks if there's 3 people credited, you don't need 3 if there's 4 people, you don't need 4 if there's 5 people, you don't need 5 if there's 6 people, etc. That's too much! How does doing that make the content more organized and readable? The only thing you're accomplishing by doing that is making the tables needlessly long. [[User:TheHonestEditor|TheHonestEditor]] ([[User talk:TheHonestEditor|talk]]) 15:00, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::I would also like to say that you broke the formatting for the table on [[The Simpsons (season 33)]] and [[The Simpsons (season 34)]] which caused a mess on the pages they're transcluded onto, and then you ask if someone could fix it when you broke it in the first place. ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545</sub> 15:04, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
{{outdent|:::::::::::::::}}I'm getting it but if I line break, I'm only going to do if there is like 2, 3 or 4 people. Up to 5 until 12, that's too much. The reason I keep doing the line break is because since nobody put a specific number for the number for the earlier seasons, the tables look very inconsistent if you go to the list of episodes. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 15:15, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
:No, you should probably be using it when there's more people credited, not less. If you want my opinion on when to use line breaks, try doing '''one''' line break for every '''three''' people credited (i.e. 1-3 writers/directors/board artists = '''no''' line breaks, 4-6 people = '''one''' line break, 7-9 people = '''two''' line breaks, etc.) That way, for users with smaller screens, you're not completely crowding up space (keyword: completely), and, for users with bigger screens, you're not making the tables needlessly long. [[User:TheHonestEditor|TheHonestEditor]] ([[User talk:TheHonestEditor|talk]]) 15:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
::So, it's been two and half weeks, and for some reason this conversation is still relevant. You still keep adding line breaks to every single person, which I have '''repeatedly''' told you to stop doing that. I hate to be mean, but how do you misunderstand my argument with line breaks this badly? Read my statement above, that is my opinion on when you should use them. Lastly, if you have a problem with space, '''make the column widths wider''' (in other words, go above the number 15). By the way, just simply saying "Please don't revert my edits, I worked really hard on them," is not gonna make me not revert your edits. You need to provide an actual reason why they should be kept that way, and none of your arguments make any sense or fall in line with [[WP:TV]] standards. That's why I keep reverting your edits. [[User:TheHonestEditor|TheHonestEditor]] ([[User talk:TheHonestEditor|talk]]) 21:30, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::I DO have a reason why that I want you to keep my edits. First of all aside line-breaking the multiple writers (that isn't above 11), I also bolded the Note section for some episodes, since in my opinion doesn't look good if it's not bolded. Second of all for the first 20 seasons of The Simpsons, all of the synopsis were sourced from the episode guide books. I was removing them since the episodes past season 20 never even have an episode guide book. Third of all even if I understand what are you saying, in my opinion the line breaking makes more readable on the computer. Here is the thing, if you look at the episode tables for seasons 5, 7 and 33, the directors and writers part on the table is very condensed meaning that if they have like a long last name, it will not fit the table. So that's why added specific numbers for the first 34 seasons. Not because I'm being mean to you but the fact is that aside line-breaking, I was also doing some minor edits. Since you have to revert all of them, all of my other work (include removing citations, guest stars and fixing mistakes) will be gone thanks to you. I'm not trying to mean but can you please leave them alone? I now have a valid reason why. Have a nice day. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 21:38, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::::I did not add back in any of the citations you removed, I only touched the table widths and content. My problem with your edits is not that you edit differently than me. My problem is that a lot of your edits to the table widths and content do not make any sense or fall in line with [[WP:TV]] standards. You cannot keep insisting to keep your changes solely because "it just looks better." You generally have to follow the standards and consensus on Wikipedia, and if you are gonna go against them, that is not a valid reason to keep them in and of itself. As for the writers looking condensed, I ask you once again, what do you mean by that? If you don't add column widths, they should fill out to fit the maximum size of your screen. [[User:TheHonestEditor|TheHonestEditor]] ([[User talk:TheHonestEditor|talk]]) 22:06, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Well for example, if a writer or director has a long name, then the name is going to be condensed for example "Steven<br/>Dean Moore". [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:12, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::For example:
::::::Steven<br/><br/>Dean Moore [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:12, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::That is what it looks like when the writer or director column if it gets condensed. I do have a question. If I create an account for Wikipedia right now, could you trust me more with my changes? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:13, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::Then why can't you make the column wider so that it doesn't look condensed? As for your other question, that's not relevant to this discussion. [[User:TheHonestEditor|TheHonestEditor]] ([[User talk:TheHonestEditor|talk]]) 22:17, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::Ok. One more thing, if you have to revert these edits again can you at least keep all of the other edits intact? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:25, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::If you're referring to bolding the Note section and the citations, then sure. [[User:TheHonestEditor|TheHonestEditor]] ([[User talk:TheHonestEditor|talk]]) 22:29, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Also one more thing, when there is two or more writers/directors etc., can you use the "&" symbol from now on. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:32, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Per [[MOS:AMP]], you generally should not be using the ampersand (&) and the word "and" interchangeably. Although, to be fair, there are some shows that do use the two interchangeably or use neither of them. [[User:TheHonestEditor|TheHonestEditor]] ([[User talk:TheHonestEditor|talk]]) 22:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
== [[1958 in animation]] ==
Please stop adding so many roles to the list entries. Two or three are sufficient. Even if they have "only" six roles you do not have to list all six. It is not a comprehensive list of roles, the rest of them are in the individual's own article. <span style="color:DarkGray">...</span> [[User:discospinster|<span style="color:DarkOrange">'''disco'''</span><span style="color: #556B2F">'''''spinster'''''</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:discospinster|'''<span style="color:DarkGray">talk</span>''']]</sub> 19:44, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
:I'm not trying to add all of their roles. And also, I was only meant to add Eddy Houchins, not have a conversation on trimming. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 19:48, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
== October 2022 ==
[[Image:Information.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Hello, I'm [[User:Adakiko|Adakiko]]. I noticed that in <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The%20Simpsons%20%28season%202%29&diff=1116084396 this edit]</span> to [[:The Simpsons (season 2)]], you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Adakiko|my talk page]]. Thank you. <!-- Template:Huggle/warn-delete-1 --><!-- Template:uw-delete1 -->[[User:Adakiko|Adakiko]] ([[User talk:Adakiko|talk]]) 18:47, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
:Sorry I forgot to add an edit summary. I was just making a few adjustments like remove the references to the episode guide books. I wasn't vandalizing. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 18:50, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
<div style=clear: both></div>[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did with <span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The%20Simpsons%20%28season%202%29&diff=1116087218 this edit]</span> to [[:The Simpsons (season 2)]], without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]]. Please make use of the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]] if you would like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. [[User:Adakiko|Adakiko]] ([[User talk:Adakiko|talk]]) 18:52, 14 October 2022 (UTC)<!-- Template:Huggle/warn-delete-2 --><!-- Template:uw-delete2 -->
*Don't remove citations without giving a valid reason. [[User:Adakiko|Adakiko]] ([[User talk:Adakiko|talk]]) 18:53, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
*:The reason why I got rid of the citations for the episode guide books is because in my opinion, they weren't needed anymore. Episodes past season 20 doesn't have an episode guide book. Not to mention, multiple users are in the process on removing the guest stars in episode lists since there is already a List of Guest stars page. Not to mention, I split the writers for Treehouse of Horror II since that episode has six writers (2 writers wrote per segment). I wasn't trying to vandalize or start another edit war like I did last month. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 19:16, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that in [[The Simpsons (season 33)]] in an edit summary, you showed clear dislike about your edits failing to stick. If you haven't noticed already, most of the community tends to trust '''unregistered users/users without an account''' a lot less than registered users. This is because the majority of people who use IP addresses are often vandals (users that intentionally demolish pages), or sockpuppets (users that are just a mask of another user). If I may suggest, creating an account would be very beneficial, as users wouldn't treat your contributions with as much salt. Just click the "log in" button at the top, then press "sign up" to get started. If you can't make one, request an account by clicking on [[Wikipedia:Request an account|this link]]. If for some reason you can't do that, could you tell me why you can't make one? I, along with other people, would be glad to help! - [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 21:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:Additionally, trying to defend your edits from being reverted is called "edit warring". It also falls under the "3 revert rule" which, if exceeded, can mean a temporary block. Please don't try to repeatedly keep your edits intact... it makes you look less trustworthy and less open to change. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 21:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::Well I already explained my reasoning in the "Formatting Episode Tables" talk page. If you want to read my reasoning, go to that talk section. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 21:41, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::My main point isnt about your edits, it's about you not using an account. You're clearly showing an interest in Wikipedia, contributing many edits over time, so what's preventing you from making an account? [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 21:48, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::::Despite the IP address, I'm an actual human and I'm very passionate about animation so that's why majority of my edits are animation themed. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 21:57, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::I... understand that, but you didn't answer my question [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 22:07, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::Well, if a create an account, no one will know who the user is if I make an edit. Then, they are going to revert it anyways. But I have a question, if I do create an account now, does that mean you can trust me more with my changes? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:10, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::# Quite the opposite, people will know who you are if you make an edit, instead of a random string of numbers. You can count the edits you made off of your IP for self-receiving [[Wikipedia:Service awards|service awards]], too.
:::::::# Yes, people will trust you a bit more if you make an account, but how you really gain reputation and trustworthiness is by being open to change, making sure edits look the way you want them to by previewing your changes, leaving edit summaries and most importantly, find reliable sources (but don't use the same ones) for articles.
:::::::[[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 22:19, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::You know what, I SHOULD make an account. Also, I do preview my changes, find reliable sources and leaving edit summaries. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:24, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::Right, but all of that can be more clearly visible with an account. So, good luck! [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 22:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::I created an account. I'm now know as SpideyGeek13. I named it that way since I LOVE Spider-Man. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:31, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::That's good to hear, Have fun using Wikipedia registered! [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 22:40, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
<div class="user-block" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: #ffefd5; min-height: 40px">[[File:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left|alt=Stop icon with clock]]<div style="margin-left:45px">Anonymous users from this IP address have been '''[[WP:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' temporarily from editing for persistently making [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive edits]]. </div><div style="margin-left:45px">If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the [[WP:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]], then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. --><code><nowiki>{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}</nowiki></code>. [[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 01:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)</div></div>
:{{unblock|reason=Why did you block me? I was just only adding a line break for writers that have longer names. I want to edit another right now but you blocked me. I don't like getting blocked since not just you can't edit for days but I also can't keep up with the "2022 in animation" page or remove any mistakes from other pages. Can you please unblock me and I promise not to mess around with those tables again? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 11:26, 19 October 2022 (UTC)}
: ''If this is a [[Network address translation|shared IP address]] and you are an uninvolved editor with a registered account, you may continue to edit by [[Special:Userlogin|logging in]]''.<!-- Template:uw-disruptblock -->
== Blocked for the third time ==
{{unblock reviewed |1=I was just only adding a line break for writers that have longer names. I want to edit another right now but you blocked me. I don't like getting blocked since not just you can't edit for days but I also can't keep up with the "2022 in animation" page or remove any mistakes from other pages. Not to mention, I blocked three times because I made disruptive, used a VPN and now this. I can't wait until the next month to edit again, all I did is to reorganize the tables that I want to have. If you unblock me now, can you please don't say that I have to wait until the 19th of November. That's too long and when I return to editing, it will be Christmastime already. Can you please unblock me and I promise not to mess around with those tables again? |decline = Block extended to three months. Stop wasting our time with these unblock requests that you either have to know won't be granted or which [[WP:CIR|demonstrate you need to remain blocked indefinitely]]. [[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 12:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)}}
{{unblock reviewed|decline=A new request has been opened below, again. Closing this one. [[User:SQL|<span style="font-size:7pt;color: #fff;background:#900;border:2px solid #999">SQL</span>]][[User talk:SQL|<sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query Me!</sup>]] 09:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)|1=Why do you need to extend to three months? The last time I got blocked for disruptive editing, it was only one month. Now I think you are taking this a bit too far. Maybe waiting for one month is a better idea before. Can you undo the extension back to one month? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 12:50, 19 October 2022 (UTC)}}
Hey, I feel really bad for you, but I don't think adding more requests will do you any good.
If you want to talk to me until you're unblocked, I'm here for you! [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 13:10, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:According to your above message you now have a registered account. You have also been warned that editing while logged out is usually against Wikipedia policy. So why are you even trying to have your I.P. address unblocked? You do realise that if you edit from both your I.P. and your registered account you run the risk of ''both'' being blocked? [[User:Barry Wom|Barry Wom]] ([[User talk:Barry Wom|talk]]) 13:44, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::As far as I know they prefer the feeling of anonymity, and I can respect that. But I feel that if they keep trying to get unblocked, not only will it increase the duration but their registered account might be blocked as well. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 13:47, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::I'm sorry. Although you blocked this IP for a month, extending my block until January 2023 is my only concern and it is a bit too far. For now, I will continue editing via my actual account. But the only thing I want is for my block for the IP address will be only for 1 month, not 3. I will continue editing in my account for now. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 14:02, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::You should probably stick to your account, as editing with an account and an IP address simultaneously is disallowed and can get you even further blocked... [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 14:05, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::''I will continue editing in my account for now''
:::::So when the block on your I.P. is lifted in three months you plan to continue posting without logging in, despite having been warned that this will likely lead to further bans? [[User:Barry Wom|Barry Wom]] ([[User talk:Barry Wom|talk]]) 14:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::You know what, I will only edit via using my account. It's just that since I'm a newcomer, there is a lot of features that I haven't used yet. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 14:43, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::Page history suggests this IP has been in use since 2010, I wouldn't label that as newcomer material, unless that wasn't you. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 15:13, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::I was meant to say the account is new, not the IP address. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 15:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, ok. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 17:36, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::Ok, I won't use the IP address anymore and instead use my SpideyFan13 account for editing. Can you talk to the administrators to unblock that account since it was blocked due to evading a previous block? It's just although I already explained my reasoning, nobody is responding with me on that account. I won't use the IP address anymore from now on. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 20:19, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::I can try, but I doubt I'll get much of a chance since my account is fairly new (even though I've edited for like a year or two once in a while as an IP before, there's no way I can prove that.) [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 20:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::Okay, sent it to their [[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk page]]. Hopefully everything goes well. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 20:44, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Thank you! If the block is cleared, I can start editing again. As a result of being blocked, I was very bored and basically did nothing since there's no way to edit due to that block message, even if I didn't do anything with the new account other than evading an IP block. Hopefully, he and the rest of the administrators actually respond to me and unblock me. I promise that I didn't do anything other than evading. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 21:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::::This isnt a guarantee that your block will be reduced/removed, but at least we'll get a verdict on how the admins feel about this situation.. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 21:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::I just feel annoyed that they have to block my newly formed account for 3 MONTHS even if they were only meant to block the IP address only, as I just opened a new account. I just want to add another page so badly, its been the whole day I haven't edit anything. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:44, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::They didnt block it by accident, they blocked it because they thought you were using it to bypass a block you had on this IP. Also I don't think complaining is gonna help your block get shortened :( [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 23:20, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::I was trying to bypass a block I had with the IP which was a bad idea from the start, it's just that when I create an account, there is so many features I have yet to do (like creating a sandbox, creating an article, uploading a photo, etc.) Sorry I complained I little, it's just that the block was unexpected when I first logged on today, I just want NinjaRobotPirate to respond to me so he can unblock my new account, but he didn't respond for the entire day even though I was patient for the entire day. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 23:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::I tried to reply to him in his talk page but unfortunately, the block prohibits me to reply. I just want to return to editing, I'm sorry I tried to evade an IP. That IP will be blocked but why can't my new account be unblocked, even if I didn't do anything with that account? I did read his talk page and he said that my reason of "not evade blocks ever again" doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to give out a better reason why my account needs to be unblocked. I literally just created it and whenever I do an edit, I usually add something like a person, event, date of birth, date of death, etc. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 23:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::Alright, I'm gonna sell it to you straight.
:::::::::::::::::::# Unfortunately, most appeals for timed blocks get '''denied''', as admins want you to wait for the designated time without any alternatives. I would advise you wait it out, because most admins are getting fed up with your appeals. I know it sounds tough, but 3 months goes by a little quicker than you think. If you keep filing appeal tickets, you run the risk of '''extending''' your block, or even worse, an '''indefinite''' one. (see [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy]])
:::::::::::::::::::# After the unblock period ends, '''only use your registered account.''' When you make an account, you're expected to solely use that account (unless you have alternate accounts for a good excuse). Normally, editing under an IP while having account doesn't do anything to the IP nor the account, because nobody knows they're linked. However, you not only '''publicly disclosed''' that you managed the account from your IP address, but you also '''used the account while having a block on your IP'''. This is a recipe for disaster, as most admins looking into this situation would conclude that you're trying to [[Block evasion|block evade]].
:::::::::::::::::::# To make sure you don't get blocked again, '''conform with the norm'''. You may like an article a certain way, but many others might not. If there's a group that establishes a norm (community established guideline), follow it. Failing to follow the norm could result in an '''edit war''', a no-holds-barred dispute between two or more editors. Edit wars are highly prohibited and can cause a block.
:::::::::::::::::::Please try to follow these in the order they're given, I hate to see someone blocked repeatedly like this and not [[Wikipedia:Having a clue|having a clue]] about why they're being blocked. - [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 23:41, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::If you need to talk about anything regarding your '''block''', I (along with other people) am all ears! Otherwise I can't really help you, sorry :( [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 23:44, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::I understand. But my only concern is that they EXTENDED the block period until JANAURY 2023. It was supposed to be until November 19th which it was originally but they extended it due to evading. How could I stay in touch for 2022 in Animation for the recent events and deaths? Worse enough since I was blocked, I CANNOT create an totally NEW account and delete the previous one. It feels like that I want to give up Wikipedia for now but I just don't want to. Wikipedia IS my passion and since you guys blocked me for the THIRD time, I can't keep in touch for my edits. Remember that my first block (the VPN block) was lifted after telling the truth about why I was blocked? Why can't I do the same thing with my new account, only this time explain my unblock reason better? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 23:48, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::If you really want to appeal, which is risky, here's how to do it:
:::::::::::::::::::::# '''Make sure you, as a person, acknowledge what you've done and wholeheartedly believe that you will not do it in the future.''' This is the most important step. You, as a whole, come before your internet identity.
:::::::::::::::::::::# '''Wait until your current block appeal form is reviewed.''' If it's accepted, you can ignore the next steps. Filing multiple appeals at a time is considered a no-no because it causes more work for the admins.
:::::::::::::::::::::# '''Submit an appeal using the form, and describe what you did to get the block, then promise to not do it again.''' The form can be found [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|here]]. Most of your previous appeals fell under the category "please unblock me I won't do it ever again", which by itself is barely passable and shows you aren't growing as a Wikipedian, because you haven't described what "it" is, you've only described your block reason and not what caused it.
:::::::::::::::::::::[[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 23:57, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
== Unblock reasoning ==
{{unblock reviewed|decline=Request moved to User_talk:SpideyGeek13. [[User:SQL|<span style="font-size:7pt;color: #fff;background:#900;border:2px solid #999">SQL</span>]][[User talk:SQL|<sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query Me!</sup>]] 04:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)|1=Hello, I'm 69.255.225.138 (also known as SpideyGeek13). I made a very bad decision today. My IP address was blocked due to disruptive editing, which I know it is already bad enough. But what I did was a BIG mistake. You see, yesterday I created a new account called SpideyGeek13 and I was about to start editing under that account. What I unfortunately did is that I was requesting the administrators to unblock the IP address and they were concerned that I was trying to unblock ANOTHER account. So basically, I tried to EVADE my IP address. That was a BAD idea to start, I would've just left the IP alone and used the account instead because if I didn't complain about the 1 month block for the IP address, they would've never added 3 more months. I know I just created my account yesterday but the thing is although I understand I made a mistake, I DIDN'T EDIT TOO MANY THINGS UNDER MY NEW ACCOUNT! Most of my edits since when I joined back in 2021 were under 69.255.225.138. Although I got blocked multiple times, at least that I mostly trustworthy. However, I did suffer some blunders during my Wikipedia journey. Remember I tried to add storyboard artists to script-driven shows (ex. The Simpsons, Family Guy, etc.) I tried to make a deal on keeping them but they keep denying. They showed me that the storyboard artists were only allowed if the show is storyboard-driven or if it is credited in the title cards. Luckily, I decided to give up adding the storyboard artists for scripted shows and reverted back to the way it is. I did suffer another blunder which is adding line-breaks to almost everyone. You see, I added specific numbers so I can fit the directors, writers neatly and also the production codes, airing dates and viewers can fit the table better. Unfortunately when I added line-breaks for the writers and directors of The Simpsons, they didn't like my changes and reverted back to the way it was. The only reason why I did in the first place is because in my opinion, it is sorted a little better. One nitpick about the list of episodes of The Simpsons pages is that since you now reverted my changes, some of the episode guides for different seasons is a bit inconsistent. If you can see the pages for seasons 5, 7 and 33, the directors and writers are VERY condensed and title takes up most of the table. Coincidentally, the line-breaks and storyboards incidents might be the reason why I was blocked for disruptive editing. To tell the truth, I was being disruptive at Wikipedia. Since the beginning of September, I keep acting very nitpicky about some edits. From storyboards, to line-breaks, to evading my IP address, I really didn't have that much good luck for these past two months. I'm going to be very honest that I will NEVER, EVER do these things again in the future when it comes to editing. When I edit, I will use different sources, be nice to the users, don't add storyboard parameters for non storyboard driven or scripted shows, and ESPECIALLY not trying to unblock another account like I just did today. I promise that I will become a better user for Wikipedia.}} [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 00:20, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
:I just told you to wait until your previous appeal was reviewed.. Why did you make another so soon? [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 00:35, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
::Well this appeal is more constructive than the previous one. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 00:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
:::Is it ok to replace the old text from the first appeal with the new text from the second appeal? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 00:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
::::I don't think you can replace appeals.. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 00:41, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::I read the guide to appeals and this appeal is actually more constructive. I explained what happened, why I was blocked, and made a promise to not do anything like that again. Are you talking the appeal for SpideyGeek13 or the appeal above? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 00:44, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::No, the appeal itself is great. The problem, unfortunately, is that you already had an appeal active, so now you have 2 open at a time, which usually comes off as annoying to people. I recommended to wait until the old appeal closed. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 00:48, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, when the first appeal gets denied, may I use the more constructive appeal after? Can you let me know if the first one is denied and I can use the other appeal instead? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 00:49, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::I will wait for any responses. See you then. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 01:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, you can see when it's denied by checking on the previous appeal. It will either say it's denied or accepted. If denied, you can then submit the newer appeal. I hope this helps :) [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]]
*An open appeal may be edited or altered at any time by the appellant prior to its review. If you would prefer that your most recent appeal be the one that is reviewed, you can just remove the unblock template from your first appeal(I'd leave the message to preserve the integrity of the discussion) [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*:I've gone ahead and closed the earlier request above. [[User:SQL|<span style="font-size:7pt;color: #fff;background:#900;border:2px solid #999">SQL</span>]][[User talk:SQL|<sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query Me!</sup>]] 09:14, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*::Ah ok. Didn't know the procedures, sorry for assuming. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 10:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::Hopefully it will be approved since I explained why I was blocked. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 14:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*::::Another problem is that when I tried to reply to the people that blocked me, I'm not allowed to talk to any user other than my talk page. I'm trying to convince to the other users to unblock me since my current appeal explains in detail why I was blocked. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 21:45, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::::I was very honest with my reasonings this time unlike the previous blocks, so can you please let me have my editing privileges back? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 21:47, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*::::::I can't restore your editing privileges :(
*::::::Only admins and higher-permissioned users can do that - I'm not even autoconfirmed yet, [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 21:48, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::::::Maybe you could mention an admin using @, which auto-opens a menu of recent users you've talked to. You can also type in a username to ping them manually. By mentioning them, they get an alert that leads over here. I wouldn't recommend this due to your history of appeal requests, but it's an option. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 21:51, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*::::::::How could I do that since when I go to the user accounts, It will block me from talking to them? I get what are you saying but how could I mention an admin? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 21:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::::::::Specifically I want to talk to Yamla who is an admin/higher-permissioned account who is the one who EXTENDED my block time to three months, I wanted to talk to that user since I actually have a reason why I want to get unblocked. All I need to do is to talk to him but I can't because I'm blocked. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*::::::::::Can you explain the admin thing a little better so I could try to do that? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::::::::::Also while I try to do that, can you discuss this topic with Yamla and maybe he could think about unblocking me? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 22:34, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*::::::::::::You can @ an admin by using it here. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 22:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
*::::::::::::::@[[User:Serenbliss|Serenbliss]], I'm going to move my reason for my appeal (not the appeal itself) but the one when I have to @ an admin to the SpideyGeek13 account. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 13:38, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::::::::::::::Ok. [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 18:34, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
*::::::::::::::::The conversation will continue under my SpideyGeek13 account. Yamla did say it is okay to be unblocked but they have to explain some of my edits first. I already did but Yamla and NinjaRobotPirate didn't respond to me yet. I'm THIS close to be unblocked. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 14:18, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::::::::::::::::I hope you get unblocked, I feel you can right your wrong and move past your history of incidents. I believe in you! [[User:Serenbliss|𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬]] ([[User talk:Serenbliss|let's chat!]]) 14:22, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
*::::::::::::::::::Thank you! I waiting for either Yamla or NinjaRobotPirate to respond because man, waiting until 2023 to edit again is bit too much. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 14:59, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::::::::::::::::::I am inclined to decline this request, as it appears you have been editing logged out under another IP as recently as today, and have created another account. Please explain. [[User:SQL|<span style="font-size:7pt;color: #fff;background:#900;border:2px solid #999">SQL</span>]][[User talk:SQL|<sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query Me!</sup>]] 02:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
*:::::::::::::::::::::The conversation will continue under my SpideyGeek13 account. [[Special:Contributions/69.255.225.138|69.255.225.138]] ([[User talk:69.255.225.138#top|talk]]) 03:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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