Kostja

You need to read your source more carefully. It says that the ''map'' is "favorable to the Greek cause", not Synvet himself. There is a world of a difference there. [[User:Athenean|Athenean]] ([[User talk:Athenean|talk]]) 21:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

 

 

:Maps aren't people. [[User:Athenean|Athenean]] ([[User talk:Athenean|talk]]) 22:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

 

 

Classifying an ethnic map of the Balkans during Ottoman Turkish rule prepared by a foreign state/scholar (non-Ottoman) as pro-Greek, pro-Bulgarian or pro-Serb is correct. However if you decide to only select the pro-Greek publications and leave the others un-classified then this is POV. It is a historical fact that during Ottoman-Russian and Balkan Wars foreign states or countries not owing the territories in question have prepared hundreds of maps each supporting their claim to territory. Once territory was gained other ethnic groups were usually effectively removed from the area or prevented from coming back so looking afterwards these maps only show intent of ethnic composition if territory is gained and not the real ethnic balance in the area. After 1878 some 2 million ethnic Turks have been removed from Bulgaria (over 300 000 killed) and today there are still some 800 000. Showing ethnic Turks to have been some kind of a minority in the Balkans and Thrace is just POV, statistics show Turks were in the Balkans in significant numbers. Now looking at these so called ethnic maps one can hardly see that. [[User:Hittit|Hittit]] ([[User talk:Hittit|talk]]) 05:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

 

== Vilayet ==

 

== Anti-Turkism ==

:Even the Associated press article mentions that the Tatarstan President did not want to secede from Russia, which is an obvious precondition for independence.[[User:Kostja|Kostja]] ([[User talk:Kostja#top|talk]]) 00:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

::I disagree, and you need to get consensus for these changes. I would suggest that the referendum article's talk page is probably the best place for a wider discussion. I have started a discussion there – open to it being turned into an RfC to attract more input, or it could be mentioned at [[WT:E&R]] and [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics|WT:Politics]]. Thanks, [[User:Number 57|<span style="color: orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color: green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color: blue;">7</span>]] 00:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)