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User [[User:Uamaol]]
 
Please refer to the following Wikipedia policies in relation to your editing:
 
1. See [[WP:OWN]] [[Template:In use]] Template was placed more than 24 hours ago, last edit more than 5 hours ago. "Specifying periods of around a day or longer for this template goes against the spirit of simply avoiding edit conflicts...If this template has been left in place for more than two hours since the last edit, you may assume the placing editor has forgotten to remove it, and you may remove it yourself"
You have blocked editing by others of the article with the InUse for more than 24 hours sometimes with several hours between editing - in contravention of this policy, and a breach of [[WP:OWN]]
2. See [[WP:BLPSELFPUB]] [[WP:BLPSELFPUB]] "Use of self-published source by the subject himself...Such material may be used as a source only if: it does not involve claims about third parties;[d] If a self-published denial does additionally make claims about third parties, those additional claims do fall under this criteria, and do not merit inclusion in Wikipedia". Likewise where copied and repeated by the subject's personal friend.
I share the concern that [[WP:BLP]] should have [[WP:RELIABLE]] non-self published sources, and Wikipedia policies therefore do not allow the subject's self-published sources to make claims about third parties
3. See [[WP:PUBLICFIGURE]] [[WP:BLPPUBLIC]] The subject is a public figure. "If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it". The [[Church of England Newspaper]] is a respected and authoritative source where the newspaper's Editor reports on the current official live legal Clergy Discipline Measure 2003 against the subject, and this source is quoted directly without editor comment or opinion. See [[WP:NPOV]] balance of material.
In relation to [[WP:NPOV]] you have reverted or deleted respected, reliable and independent sources pertaining to the subject, without explanation, while keeping self-published sources.
This is disruptive editing. [[User:WhiteHartInn|WhiteHartInn]] ([[User talk:WhiteHartInn|talk]]) 00:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:I am happy to discuss with you collaboration in the editing of the page to avoid edit conflict. [[User:WhiteHartInn|WhiteHartInn]] ([[User talk:WhiteHartInn|talk]]) 00:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|WhiteHartInn}}
::I previously asked you nicely to stop editing the article due to edit conflicts, yet you persisted, which in itself is disruptive editing. You have since reverted my edits twice now. As I previously stated, I am actively making a major edit to the article, therefore to actively abide by the two hour guideline you mentioned is not assuming good faith. Instead of continually using the edit summaries as your soapbox, put something in the article talk page and ping me.
::Your last edits to the article were back in December and consisted solely of a self-published source consisting of a letter complaint, and before this every edit since your account creation on 6 September 2023 has been minor copy editing. The contributions that I am allegedly blocking are actually complaints about my editing and not new content. It's interesting that you are mentioning [[WP:OWN]] as your actions are showing perceived ownership of the article.
::The self-published source that you keep removing is there as a direct link to the source of the secondary source provided (City Matters). As per [[WP:SECONDARY]]: ''A secondary source provides thought and reflection based on primary sources, generally at least one step removed from an event. It contains analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources.'' There's a single self-published source as opposed to "sources", which technically complies with [[WP:ABOUTSELF]]. This partially breaks rule #2 of "not involv[ing] claims about third parties", however the source relates directly towards what the subject has experienced, and involves a secondary source beside it for scrutiny.
::I agree with you about NPOV, however when I found this article whilst reading about City of London ward elections I was shocked at how heavily libellous it was and gave undue weight towards negative allegations against the subject, coupled with awful sourcing. The state it was in would have given Campbell-Taylor sufficient grounds to sue the Wikimedia Foundation on the grounds of defamation and part our duty as editors we must strive towards preventing such. As per [[WP:LIBEL]] ''[sic] It is the responsibility of all contributors to ensure that the material posted on Wikipedia is not defamatory. It is a Wikipedia policy to immediately delete libelous material when it has been identified... Libelous material (otherwise known as defamation) is reasonably likely to damage a person or company's reputation and could expose Wikipedia to legal consequences.'' As per [[WP:UNDUE]] ''Undue weight can be given in several ways, including but not limited to the depth of detail, the quantity of text, prominence of placement, the juxtaposition of statements, and the use of imagery.''
::As per [[WP:AGF]], ''Assuming good faith (AGF) means assuming that people are not deliberately trying to hurt Wikipedia, even when their actions are harmful. This is a fundamental principle on Wikipedia. Most people try to help the project, not hurt it. If this were untrue, a project like Wikipedia would be doomed from the beginning.''
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::I have no issues with negative press on individuals, and am guilty of adding it on other BLPs, however some of the content that was present is very fishy, in contrast to some that I have found of the internet, including in the sources, which is downright bonkers. The solution to the stalement is to ignore articles with inuse tags and come back to them a few days afterwards and remove them if unnecessary. On the matter of NPOV, I am happy to collaborate.[[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 02:25, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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:::It is good we are talking. Firstly, I have never reverted any of your edits. In accordance with my reading of what seemed clearly stated Wikipedia policies for [[Template:In use]] and time limits for that, and as per [[WP:AGF]] I saw your InUse template hanging for well over 2 hours with no editing by you - and in good faith I followed policy - and did not revert your edits, which I have never done, but edited myself including adding verifiably sourced content. If you had communicated with me and explained that you were going to be doing your major edit for X length of time, I would have understood and of course left it to you for that whole specified period, but instead you simply reverted my edit, and maintained the tag for much longer than the Wikipedia policies state - without explanation, giving the impression of [[WP:OWN]]. But that is water under the bridge and it is good we are communicating now.
:::As I have reached out to you, I am happy to collaborate to achieve [[WP:CONSENSUS]] on the article.
:::In relation to content, the retention of self-published material by the subject that makes allegations about third parties - particularly when the said third party has brought live, active legal proceedings against the subject for alleged abuse offences - is not merely a partial breach of rule #2 of [[WP:ABOUTSELF]], it is an evident breach. It is also a breach in England of Section 1 of the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Acts 1992 to 2003, prohibiting any publication which may indirectly identify a purported victim of an alleged offence, which some of what the subject's blog says does. It is widely known that the journalist who rehearses in her articles what the subject says is a close friend-cum-ex-partner of the subject. While her first article about the distribution of flyers during the election might be argued to be as you say [[WP: SECONDARY]] "A secondary source provides thought and reflection based on primary sources, generally at least one step removed from an event"...her second article which is a blog and plainly a verbatim copy-and-paste job from the subject's self-published personal blog in which he attacks and makes self-published claims about an alleged victim who has filed complaints and instituted legal proceedings against the subject for alleged offences - that is not a genuinely independent secondary source.
:::In relation to achieving [[WP:NPOV]] in content and space of content, the allegations by the subject against third parties need to be balanced against the reported fact that his alleged victim has brought official legal proceedings against the subject who is a [[Public figure]] - and we both agree that robustly independent, trustworthy and reliable sources need to apply. On both sides. The sources written by the Editor of a national Church of England newspaper is such a robust, independent and reliable source. In order to achieve dispassionate neutrality, I have always simply quoted directly verbatim from the independent reliable source without any commentary or paraphrasing of my own.
:::As you suggest, I am happy to let a few days pass, and then re-engage in editing towards [[WP:NPOV]]. I have no problem with the other content you have added to the article which is fair enough. [[User:WhiteHartInn|WhiteHartInn]] ([[User talk:WhiteHartInn|talk]]) 09:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::::I have just discovered this reply and I'm a tad blown away by some of the things you've brought to the table. Firstly, you reverted my edits twice on 12 February. As previously stated about policies ''they are not carved in stone.'' Before editing this article I had no reason to be in contact with you, therefore would have no reason to alert you about edits. It was not obvious before deciding to edit this article that you would be be so protective over its contents.
::::Consensus can be made, but you keep stating in edit summaries that consensus has already been established when it very clearly has not been!
::::I have removed the self-published source, however I only had it in there to back up the secondary source. On Wikipedia it's very common to see a secondary source followed by a primary one, so a news article about a tweet followed by the actual tweet, for example.
::::If you genuinely believe that the blog and the article by City Matters does indeed break the law then take it up with the [[City of London Police]]. Regardless of legality, if it's published, like these two sources are, it's fair game. They were both published almost six and half years ago. Are you trying to imply that I am committing an offence in adding the sources? Where exactly in the blog does he identify the alleged victim?
::::{{tq|''It is widely known that the journalist who rehearses in her articles what the subject says is a close friend-cum-ex-partner of the subject.''}} Widely known by who exactly? I tried Googling her twice and found nothing. What's your source of this alleged COI? Do you know her personally?
::::It's interesting that you complain about a "copy-and-paste job" when you keep insisting on keeping your own contributions of the very same nature. News articles and encyclopæedias are not the same things and require different writing styles. Excessive quotation is not encyclopædic and is honestly lazy editing. You do it too much and your individual edits will literally be deleted (not even just reverted) by an admin for [[WP:COPYVIO]].
::::I've seen no indication that the Church of England Newspaper (COEN) is a reliable source. It's a glorified religious newsletter. City Matters is questionably reliable also, however as a local newspaper it has some level of notability as a source. COEN is independent of the Church of England and is privately run by the for-profit company, ''Political and Religious Intelligence Ltd.'' The [[Church Times]] has at least three times the circulation, also.
::::Do not insert excessive quotes, paraphrase. [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 02:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 
== The Mary Wallopers "Anglophobia" ==
 
Hi there [[User:Uamaol|Uamaol]], I saw that you were also involved in the "Anglophobia"... conflict, shall we say, on [[The Mary Wallopers]]. There's [[Talk:The Mary Wallopers#Anglophobic|a discussion]] happening on the talk about it's inclusion, if you'd like to weigh in. [[User:Xx78900|Xx78900]] ([[User talk:Xx78900|talk]]) 23:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Xx78900}} Belated cheers! :) [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 18:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 
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:{{ping|Cordless Larry}} Which article are the referring to? My edit summaries show me showing attribution. [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 17:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
::It came to my attention via [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Irish_people_in_Great_Britain&diff=prev&oldid=1221976538 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Irish_people_in_Great_Britain&diff=prev&oldid=1221976707 this]. Those edit summaries don't meet the requirement to disclose the copying and link to the copied page that's outlined in my message above. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 18:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Attribution was clearly given in first edit summary. For the second, it would be reasonable to assume the source was the former, especially as the contents of the former is in the latter. [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 23:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
::::And the link? [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 06:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::You've provided them both. [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 00:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::What I meant was, you've not been including links to the source article in your edit summaries when copying material, which is part of the attribution requirements. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 08:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::You say that like it's a prolific problem, when in reality it's three and a half edits within 8 minutes. [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 17:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::::It wasn't a comment on the extent of the problem (I haven't checked whether you'd made this mistake before) but an explanation of what you failed to do. I suggest that rather than arguing, you just fix the attribution. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 17:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm not arguing at all. How does one edit an edit summary? Is that even a thing? [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 16:29, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Unfortunately it's not possible, but you can make a dummy edit (for example, just adding a space somewhere) and accompany it with a new edit summary. How to do this is explained at [[WP:RIA]]. You could also use [[:Template:Copied]] on the talk pages of the source and destination articles. Thanks for your co-operation. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 18:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 
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:The reason for inclusion is the proposal to create a new article is open states to be a vehicle to be a repository for including everything under the sun on Israel as quoted here “as well as a big chunk of the Israel in Eurovision 2024 article”
:Therefor I thought it best to include those involved o that discussion as that is also listed as a discussion to try and resolve the issue. I hope that this explanation helps. [[User:PicturePerfect666|PicturePerfect666]] ([[User talk:PicturePerfect666|talk]]) 04:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::Where is this stated? [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 04:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:::The last line of the first comment in the discussion by the person who started the discussion. [[User:PicturePerfect666|PicturePerfect666]] ([[User talk:PicturePerfect666|talk]]) 04:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Which discussion are you referring to exactly? [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 04:22, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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