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:{{ping|Thomas.W}} Maybe so, but Elizabeth II is still the Duke of Normandy (not Duchess) despite her ancestors relinquishing any claim over continental Normandy and other French claims in the Treaty of Paris in 1259. The Normandy article mentions this fact in the lead, along with how she is still known by the title in the Channel Islands, which were exempt from the treaty. Also, this conversation would be better suited on the respective talk page. [[User:Uamaol|UaMaol]] ([[User talk:Uamaol#top|talk]]) 20:12, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
::You have to differentiate between political facts and claims in titles. Royalty can use whatever titles they want, whether it be the queen of the UK claiming to be Duke of Normandy or the king of Spain claiming to be king of Gibraltar, but those title claims have nothing whatsoever to do with Normandy in the first case or Gibraltar in the second case. And just like there's no mention of the queen of the UK claiming to be Duke of Normandy in [[Normandy]] there should be no mention of the king of Spain claiming to be king of Gibraltar in [[Gibraltar]]. -&nbsp;'''Tom'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User:Thomas.W|Thomas.W]] [[User talk:Thomas.W|'''''<sup><small> talk</small></sup>''''']] 20:26, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 
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[[WP:DONTBITE]]. [[Special:Contributions/81.156.182.211|81.156.182.211]] ([[User talk:81.156.182.211|talk]]) 22:25, 3 September 2017 (UTC)