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===[[:Tom Rowsell]]===▼
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The result was '''delete'''. The SPA !votes have been disregarded in this close. Two sources have been presented and discussed. ''The International Far-Right'' is published by a reputable publisher, but is barely more than a mention. The other ([https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/inside-generation-identity-uk/]) contains slightly more information, but is best characterized as a blog post (see [[WP:BLPSPS]]). This is clearly below the [[WP:GNG]] threshold which require substantial coverage in multiple, reliable sources. No evidence has been presented to support the argument that he is a notable film maker, only an entry for a minor film award (they even say explicitly that the entries ranged from "professional products from established companies to home-produced DVDs"[https://folklore-society.com/blog-post/non-print-media-award-2014/#]). [[User:Pax:Vobiscum|Pax:Vobiscum]] ([[User talk:Pax:Vobiscum|talk]]) 09:50, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
▲===[[:Tom Rowsell]]===
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::{{u|DGG}}, which of the sources would you say have sufficient discussion about Rowsell? I can't see how the current sources make him more notable than, say, a pop group with an article based on concert listings - "band X played at festival A where also bands Y and Z played". [[User:Ffranc|Ffranc]] ([[User talk:Ffranc|talk]]) 09:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
*'''DELETE''': both the book and the website which form the bulk of this content are from the same activist organisation - Hope not Hate. [[User:Sceaf|Sceaf]] ([[User talk:Sceaf|talk]]) 08:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
::This is false. [[Hope not Hate]] is an organization, and [https://www.routledge.com/The-International-Alt-Right-Fascism-for-the-21st-Century/Hermansson-Lawrence-Mulhall-Murdoch/p/book/9781138363861 this is a peer-reviewed book published by academic press Routledge]. Some of the experts and scholars involved in the
:::Additionally, this user's edit history is very interesting in light of their comments and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_Rowsell&diff=prev&oldid=988891609 attempts to turn the article into a promotional piece for the subject] and when that failed, to have it removed entirely: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Identitarian_movement&diff=prev&oldid=912717760 Consider this edit for example] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rowsell&diff=prev&oldid=725100769 edits like this from back in 2016 that demonstrate a particular fascination with the Rowsell family name]. Here's one where he attempts [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Breitbart_News&diff=prev&oldid=762600365 to get the phrase "far-right" removed from Wikipedia's Breitbart article], a media company for which Rowsell wrote. In fact, this user's edit history aligns with topics either covered by or topics that would be covered by Rowsell on his YouTube channel, or reflects a general interest in the Rowsell family name. Sceaf, are you Tom Rowsell or are you somehow otherwise closely connected to the subject? If so, it would be wise to announce a conflict of interest here. [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 17:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
*'''DELETE''': Not notable. [[User:Robincard|Robincard]] ([[User talk:Robincard|talk]]) 13:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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*'''DELETE''': Not notable, there are YouTubers with a far larger viewer base who don't have Wikipedia pages.
::Note that this anonymous IP user has not edited before weighing in here and earlier version's of the IP's votes repeatedly leveled personal attacks at myself. [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 00:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
▲*'''DELETE''': Not notable, there are YouTubers with a far larger viewer base who don't have Wikipedia pages. Looking at the user who created the account they seem to be a left wing germanic pagan, so I think the entire reason this page was created was as a "hit piece" as it were on Rowsell, who is a right wing Germanic pagan. Wikipedia isn't the place for intra-factional fighting between members a fringe community, and Rowsell certainly isn't relevant enough either as an academic, a YouTuber or as a right wing figure to warrant a Wikipedia article. Definite delete from me. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C4:B404:9200:9DD1:431D:1EF4:2FB3|2A00:23C4:B404:9200:9DD1:431D:1EF4:2FB3]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C4:B404:9200:9DD1:431D:1EF4:2FB3#top|talk]]) 21:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*'''DELETE''': He simply isn't notable enough; a few thousand YouTube views and a mention in a Hope Not Hate report isn't substantial enough to deserve an article for my money. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.104.180.101|88.104.180.101]] ([[User talk:88.104.180.101#top|talk]]) 13:26, 23 November 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::And another new IP account chiming in: This is this account's second edit. This editor is also misrepresenting sourcing in the article. [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 17:15, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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