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= SeptemberOctober 1720 =
== EditingPhoto a tableStretching ==
Quick question. I recently cropped the photo of [[Dan Hurley]] for his article. It appears to be stretched vertically on the infobox, but it is not stretched according to the Wikipedia Commons page (see [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HurleyWH2024.jpg]). Why is this? - [[User:RockinJack18|<span style="color:blue">'''Rockin'''</span>]][[User talk:RockinJack18|<span style="color:red">'''Jack'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/RockinJack18|<span style="color:black">'''18'''</span>]] 03:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|RockinJack18}}, I see no stretching on an Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G smartphone using the desktop site. The photo looks normal to me. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 04:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
::Looks like it was updated, thanks for checking! - [[User:RockinJack18|<span style="color:blue">'''Rockin'''</span>]][[User talk:RockinJack18|<span style="color:red">'''Jack'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/RockinJack18|<span style="color:black">'''18'''</span>]] 05:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|RockinJack18}} You asked why it happened so here is the technical explanation. When an Internet page contains an image, the page can optionally specify a display height and width of the image, even if it's the same as the actual image file. It helps the browser reserve the right space for the image so other content isn't shuffled around when the image is read later and the browser discovers the size. MediaWiki automatically does this. If a new version of an image is uploaded, the height-width ratio may change. MediaWiki sometimes has a delay in updating the specified size in pages using the image (or a page version with the old size may be cached by your browser). Then the browser will stretch the image to satisfy the specified size. It's possible (not sure) that [[WP:PURGE|purging]] the page will help. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:56, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]], thank you for the explanation! - [[User:RockinJack18|<span style="color:blue">'''Rockin'''</span>]][[User talk:RockinJack18|<span style="color:red">'''Jack'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/RockinJack18|<span style="color:black">'''18'''</span>]] 22:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
== Talk page: manual archiving ==
Hey everyone! I am asking on editing a table to add note that Safari 18 dropped support for JPEG-2000. However, while I was able to update the table on JPEG-2000 page, I can't seem to edit the Safari text to add a note saying Safari 18 dropped support and earlier versions supported JPEG-2000 in visual editor. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CKing123|CKing123]] ([[User talk:CKing123#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CKing123|contribs]]) </small>
:{{ping|CKing123}} Some tables like the first column of [[JPEG 2000#Applications 2]] use features which prevent editing with VisualEditor. You can switch to source editing on the pencil icon at the top right. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 19:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:ThankIs you!it allowed to manual archive a talk page without using a bot? [[UserSpecial:CKing123Contributions/14.0.158.69|CKing12314.0.158.69]] ([[User talk:CKing12314.0.158.69|talk]]) 0108:5657, 1820 SeptemberOctober 2024 (UTC)
:Yes. See [[Help:Archiving a talk page#Manual archiving]] for details. —[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 09:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
== Customising Navbox ==
:Your question isn't actually germaine to what it is you are trying to do. If you feel the archiving for the One Direction talk page should be changed in some way, please discuss that first. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
::I saw the [[WP:TP]] On talk pages that generate significant amounts of discussion, old discussions are often archived to keep the size of the talk page at a manageable level. This may be done either manually or with the help of a bot. An archive box with links to the discussion archives is normally placed at the top of the current talk page.
::but people keeps undo my manual archive even the talk page has a unmanageable level of old discussions. what should i do? [[Special:Contributions/14.0.158.69|14.0.158.69]] ([[User talk:14.0.158.69|talk]]) 09:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:::As I said, you need to discuss it, especially when others seem to disagree. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:Courtesy link: {{sectionlink|Talk:One Direction|Other content removal}}. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 14:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
== Wrong link ==
Hey there, I'd like to enquire how I can customize my navbox to use custom colours (check my userpage, it's the first dropdown) as I've seen with some other users. [[User:Henry Herrmann-Friedrich|Henry]] ([[User talk:Henry Herrmann-Friedrich|talk]]) 05:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello in this wikipedia page [[Carnatic music]]
:Have a look over at {{Section link|Help:Table|Colors_in_tables}} [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']] [[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 05:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! Appreciate it. [[User:Henry Herrmann-Friedrich|Henry]] ([[User talk:Henry Herrmann-Friedrich|talk]]) 11:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::Unfortunately, the examples provided in the help article hasn't worked. Thanks for the assistance though! [[User:Henry Herrmann-Friedrich|Henry]] ([[User talk:Henry Herrmann-Friedrich|talk]]) 04:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Henry Herrmann-Friedrich}} See [[Template:Navbox#Style parameters]] for where to place color code for backgrounds. If you want to change text color then wrap the text in code like <code><nowiki><span style="color:green;">...</span></nowiki></code>? If the text is linked then the code has to be inside a piped link like <code><nowiki>[[Example|<span style="color:green;">Example</span>]]</nowiki></code> to produce [[Example|<span style="color:green;">Example</span>]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 20:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
there is an incorrect link - List of Carnatic music festivals. It is a circular link i.e., it brings you back to the main page [[Carnatic music]].
== how to create a Wikipedia page for my NGO? ==
This must be changed. It is fine to point it to "[[List of Indian classical music festivals]]".
How to create a page for my NGO from India
Haindaveeyam Foundation [[User:Haindaveeyam Foundation|Haindaveeyam Foundation]] ([[User talk:Haindaveeyam Foundation|talk]]) 09:00, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Can you please do it ?
:Don't. Wikipedia articles [[WP:NPOV|must be neutral]] – experience has shown that people have great trouble writing neutrally about organisations they have founded or work for (see [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest|our conflict of interest guidelines]]). You're better off waiting for someone else to do so. – [[User:Teratix|Tera]]'''[[User talk:Teratix|tix]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Teratix|₵]] 09:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:Also, you need to [[WP:CHU|change your username]] (or, more easily, abandon the account and create a new one). Wikipedia accounts are for individuals, and may not have a name that suggests that they are represent an organisation. See the [[WP:Username Policy|Username Policy]]
:Note also that [[WP:NOPROMO|promotion]] of any kind (ie, telling the world about your organisation) is not permitted in Wikipedia, and that [[WP:an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing|an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing]].
:(You may be wondering why, if telling the world about your organisation is "promotion" and not permitted, we have articles about organisations at all. The answer is that most such articles were not written by people connected with the organisation, and what they tell is what independent commentators have published about the organisation, not what the organisation itself says or wants to say). [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
thanks
== New article creation: No draft option shown. ==
Raman [[User:Ramanp75|Ramanp75]] ([[User talk:Ramanp75|talk]]) 14:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{U|Ramanp75}}, [[Special:Diff/1252255405|fixed]]. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 14:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
When I try to create a new article - say [[AnyNewTitle]] - then I get the suggestion to start in my personal space under [[Special:Mypage/AnyNewTitle]]. But I do not get the suggestion to start it as [[Draft:AnyNewTitle]]. Why? Isn't this the purpose of draft space? --[[User:KnightMove|KnightMove]] ([[User talk:KnightMove|talk]]) 12:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
== No untuk buka spam ==
:How are these suggestions being provided? You may create drafts by using the [[WP:WIZARD]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:27, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::When clicking [[AnyNewTitle]] I see text made by [[MediaWiki:Newarticletext]]:
::'''''Before creating an article, please read [[Help:Your first article]]. We recommend that new editors use the [[WP:Article wizard|Article wizard]].'''''
::Both links eventually lead to an option to create a draft although you have to enter the title again. I think it's OK you have to read some advice before getting to the draft namespace. Otherwise we would probably get more junk drafts, and confused users who don't have a submit button on their draft and don't know what to do. Often they think the draft has been submitted when they click "Publish", so they don't do more and nothing ever happens. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 14:02, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Help me to open wasap and call [[Special:Contributions/27.125.249.77|27.125.249.77]] ([[User talk:27.125.249.77|talk]]) 20:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
== wrong, offensive, antisemetic content ==
: This Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. We can't help you with anything else. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 21:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
== Admin Help ==
“zionism” is simply believing that the jewish people have a right to have a homeland. the page on zionism is antisemetic, accusing jews of being colonizers, illegal settlers, and wanting to get rid of palestinians. this is not true, and quite offensive. [[Zionism]] [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:87C0:7780:797F:5E58:5868:CD8E|2607:FEA8:87C0:7780:797F:5E58:5868:CD8E]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:87C0:7780:797F:5E58:5868:CD8E|talk]]) 13:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
I am needing a Admin to join in a topic.<br>
:If you have any doubts about the contents of the page, you can click the source citations near any claim for material that backs up that claim. As a contentious topic within the sphere of the [[Arab–Israeli conflict]], it is held under extra scrutiny to be fully verifiable. See also [[WP:Wikipedia is not censored]]. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 13:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
There is a person that has reverted a edit, and I am wanting a Admin to join due to:
:Due to the restrictions around that topic area, you are not permitted to edit about this topic; you must have an account that is 30 days old with 500 edits. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:11, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
#This person has a history of Edit Wars.
#This person has a history of reverting Edits.
#This person has not given a reason for reverting the edit.
#This person has a history of not giving a reason for the revert.
With this in mind I would like a second opinion from a Admin.<br>
The topic is [[Postage Paid]] Thank you. [[User talk:Sheriff U3|Sheriff U3 talk]] 21:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Sheriff U3|Sheriff U3]]: This is the wrong venue to ask for admin help. Use one of the appropriate administrator noticeboards like [[WP:ANI]] or [[WP:ANEW]]. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu 🐲</span>]] ( [[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]] ) 22:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
::Ok thank you for informing me. I will post this there then. [[User talk:Sheriff U3|Sheriff U3 talk]] 22:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:After the edits were made, [[Postage Paid]] was converted to a redirect to [[Mail#Payment]]. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 06:43, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== Not sure how to edit [[Alan_Alda]] ==
== Vinnie Tortorich ==
In the page for Alan Alda, immediately after where it says "The following is a list of M*A*S*H episodes written and/or directed by Alda." there appears to be just a blank space on the page, the actual list is not visible (at least not to me). There is some information that is visible when I edit that section -- I have no idea what to do to make it appear.
Why is Vinnie Tortorich not on wikipedia? [[Special:Contributions/2601:645:D80:F050:3921:71B5:461A:5FB2|2601:645:D80:F050:3921:71B5:461A:5FB2]] ([[User talk:2601:645:D80:F050:3921:71B5:461A:5FB2|talk]]) 17:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
PS: I have not edited this article at all, I just happened to have noticed this issue as I was reading it. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mpearl|Mpearl]] ([[User talk:Mpearl#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mpearl|contribs]]) 22:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Because no one has written an article about him that summarizes what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about him and what makes him [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:If a person doesn't have a Wikipedia article, they likely lack [[WP:Notability (people)|notability by Wikipedia's standards]]. If you believe this individual is notable enough for an entry, you can [[Wikipedia:Requested articles|request for their article to be made]]. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 17:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::Be advised that RA is backlogged to the point of uselessness. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:::An article at [[Vinnie Tortorich]] was created in 2010 and deleted in 2019. Requests for undeletion were declined at [[Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/Archive 342#Vinnie Tortorich]], [[Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/Archive 367#Vinnie Tortorich]] and [[Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/Archive 368#Vinnie Tortorich]]. See also [[Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2023 May 30#Missing personality]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 19:23, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
22:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC) [[User:Mpearl|Morris]] ([[User talk:Mpearl|talk]]) 22:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
== Change main title ==
: Do you not see a "[show]" button? [[User:Tamfang|—Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 22:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Trying to modify name from Cecil Williams South Carolina Museum to
:{{ping|Mpearl}} I see a box with "Season | Episode | Credit [show]" at [[Alan Alda#Writing and directing credits]]. "show" is below "H" in M*A*S*H for me. Do you see it at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Alda?safemode=1#Writing_and_directing_credits] or if you log out? Clicking "show" expands a table. Can you click below "H"? [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{reply to|Mpearl}} The table contents are hidden by default, contrary to [[MOS:DONTHIDE]]. I've fixed that (and the minor [[MOS:SLASH]] in the preceding paragraph). [[User:Bazza_7|Bazza <span style="color:grey">7</span>]] ([[User_talk:Bazza_7|talk]]) 09:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
= October 21 =
South Carolina Civil Rights Museum [[User:Clarendon26|Clarendon26]] ([[User talk:Clarendon26|talk]]) 17:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
== [[Alex Breingan]] ==
:Changing a title is called a page move. That may be requested at [[WP:RM|requested moves]], if you think it will be completely uncontroversial. Keep in mind the official or legal name is not necessarily the title of an article here, see [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello there. I am wondering if any editors can help assist. I think I wrote this in the wrong forum before. I am very familiar with this story due to the coverage here in New Zealand. An editor who is closely linked to the subject has shared a fair statement on the emotional stress that this [[Alex Breingan]] has brought to the subject here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses#A_message_from_Theword2000].
::It was called the [[Cecil Williams South Carolina Civil Rights Museum]] but according to the [https://www.cecilwilliams.com/ official website] it is now the South Carolina Civil Rights Museum. The page isn't move protected, but you should explain on the talk page why the name has changed, this isn't clear.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 18:33, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Upon looking at the article itself, every single note about the financial issues and legal issues are cited from just one reporter. This is not giving it a neutral POV at all as per the rules with Wikipedia. The only other reporter out of the section talked about a website that was setup and questioned here [https://www.stuff.co.nz/culture/350222238/stripe-studios-boss-sets-uk-company-website-disappears-after-questions-stuff] and about the recievership issues [https://www.stuff.co.nz/culture/350208858/auckland-tv-production-companies-receivership] but every single else source is from a single reporter under the ''Media Insider'' section of the NZ Herald. This needs to be adjusted and fixed so it's neutral. It's not fair on the subject with a single reporter writing these articles which the subject hasn't even talked back about them being true or not. It's a horrible way of writing without any balance.
= September 18 =
The comment earlier claims that they aren't true, alot of the facts. Thank you. Can any experienced editors go and take a look at this? The friend of the subject has asked if the article can be deleted. If this is an option, can this happen? Thank you. It's just very unbalanced, the entire article and shouldn't be mostly cited from one single reporter. The New Zealand Investigation section should be cited from the source of the people doing the investigation, not from a reporter who is reporting everything about the subject. And the furniture purchases is completely a civil issue, not related to his company.
== Notable? ==
Another editor replied to where I posted this earlier [<nowiki/>[[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Alex Breingan]]] and said:
Whenever I stumble across an image that illustrates something important such as the Shakespearean character [[Falstaff]] and I do not recognize any actor's names in the caption [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Falstaff#/media/File:MerryWives.jpg] and the actors are not linked to their own page here at WP, it draws my curiosity to the either the image's notability or the connection it has to something else listed at WP. In this instance, the [[Pacific Repertory Theatre]]. It reads extremely promotional, and does not seem to be any more notable than any other regional theater across the country, and tries to come across more important than it is by linking other notable names. [[Golden Bough Playhouse]] may be the theatre's home, but even that only links to [[Edward G. Kuster]]. I am bringing it here to the Help Desk rather than the Talk Page for two reasons: 1. The Talk Page does not get enough traffic for a discussion, and 2. the last two AFDs I put up for deletion were actually just poorly written articles and either were merged or enhanced to the point of "KEEP". Before I place this up for AFD, should this article be 1. merged, 2. heavily scrubbed, or 3. placed up for AFD? Thanks in advance. [[User:Maineartists|Maineartists]] ([[User talk:Maineartists|talk]]) 01:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
: It's definitely a crappy article (which are legion on Wkipedia), with the financial/legal issues over-emphasized, overly-detailed ([[WP:VNOTSUFF]]) and written in pedantic [[Wikipedia:Proseline]], as if every single news article warrants a new paragraph. The section should be consolidated into a couple paragraphs, to summarize without being so tedious, although some will probably scream "whitewashing!!!". [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty!]]
:Regarding PRT, it seems like it meets the criteria of [[WP:LOCAL]] and has been sufficiently covered locally by multiple independent sources in the local area. It does seem that GBP has recently been turned into a redirect to Kuster by an experienced editor, although it does not appear that it was ever discussed, but a AfD was briefly brought up in the talk of GBP. I would think that it simply need to be edited following the guidance at LOCAL. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']] [[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 03:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
: Can any admins go through please and clean up this article? This is not good faith at all for the subject. Seems more of an attack page on the subject. Thank you.
::{{reply|Maineartists}} [[WP:LOCAL]] is an essay, and even that essay acknowledges that an article about a company (in this case a nonprofit corporation) should cite sources that have a national, or at least regional, audience.
::The threshold of notability here is [[WP:CORP]], period. If it doesn't meet the criteria, it's ripe for AFD nomination. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 03:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, [[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] and [[User:Tiggerjay|Tiggerjay]] for all this. As GBP was merged, I am wondering if this theatre needs its own page at all since it is covered quite well on the page ''[[Carmel-by-the-Sea, California]]'' under Arts and Entertainment: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmel-by-the-Sea,_California#Arts_and_culture]. Since the PRT page needs a good scrubbing, most of the LOCAL and CORP info would be reduced to what is found at CBTS. There are only a few sentences that need be added to the A&E section. [[User:Maineartists|Maineartists]] ([[User talk:Maineartists|talk]]) 04:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
[[User:MonkeyMonkeyHere|MonkeyMonkeyHere]] ([[User talk:MonkeyMonkeyHere|talk]]) 01:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:Yep, I wouldn't be opposed of merging it into the Carmel article either and stripping out some of the unnecessary promotionalism. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']] [[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 05:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hi everyone. Looks like it's being resolved through a deletion nomination and the other help desk. Thank you! [[User:MonkeyMonkeyHere|MonkeyMonkeyHere]] ([[User talk:MonkeyMonkeyHere|talk]]) 04:24, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
I just discovered that PRT not only has its own page, but it also is mentioned at Carmel by the Sea, California and has its own section at [[Forest Theater]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Theater#Pacific_Repertory_Theatre]. I've placed a "Proposal to Merge" on the Talk Page of Forest Theater: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Forest_Theater#Merge_proposal] but regardless, the original PRT page should be merged or be placed for AFD. [[User:Maineartists|Maineartists]] ([[User talk:Maineartists|talk]]) 23:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
== Citing a presentation ==
== Could I ask someone to take a few pokes at one of my sandbox pages for some citation stuff? ==
Would it be acceptable to cite a presentation to back up an extraordinary claim? The presentation can't be found in its original form online however was created by a reliable source, likely still exists on their servers, and the claim can be backed up by a Twitter post, which contains a still from the presentation. It's a lot of additional clauses, I know. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 01:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi all, I've been messing with re-using citations for some complex sources, where I want to cite specific page numbers, add a quote (to back the citation/reference) and minimize the number of cited objects in the References sections. I've gone through Preview-level tests and messed with enough various citation templates that I'm not sure at this point which is best for my needs. If it's easier, by all means edit this:
:Reliable Wikipedia content must be published. The presentation can't be found in its original form online [so, nope] however was created by a reliable source [sez who?], likely still exists on their servers ["likely" doesn't count], and the claim can be backed up by a Twitter post, which contains a still from the presentation [a Twitter post is again not gonna cut it]. Nope, nope, nope, no way. --[[User:Orangemike|<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span>]] | [[User talk:Orangemike|<span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span>]] 03:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
'''[[User:Very Polite Person/test3]]'''
==[[Queen Mary of Denmark]]==
I don't know what the right formulation for this is... so in that example, I have one source that I used in [[Born secret]]. What I want to do is have the single 'object' for that, and then use some other template to repeatedly use that same reference name/link, but then for each new invocation, add a unique page number and a unique "quote" field for each. Ideally, each new citation would be clickable to go back to the main/mother ship Reference citation.
I have just added a "Commons" file - all wrong. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Domain_House_Hobart_20171119-013.jpg#%7B%7Bint%3Afiledesc%7D%7D
Sorry. Please add the caption: "Queen Mary graduated from the University of Tasmania in 1995"
Thanks [[Special:Contributions/115.70.23.77|115.70.23.77]] ([[User talk:115.70.23.77|talk]]) 02:44, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Srbernadette|Srbernadette]]: Please read [[Help:Pictures]]. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu 🐲</span>]] ( [[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]] ) 03:23, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== How do I delete an authorized amin and set mine ==
Kind of like these, but I'm not sure what is the right combinations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Very_Polite_Person/test3#cite_ref-2
How do I delete an authorized amin and set mine [[User:6mile722|6mile722]] ([[User talk:6mile722|talk]]) 03:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
By all means you have permission to edit that page for this! I am a big fan of re-using my templates for references to keep things simple, so I just need one feasible example (if this is a thing that is possible). If this isn't the right help desk to ask, which could be best? -- [[User:Very Polite Person|Very Polite Person]] ([[User talk:Very Polite Person|talk]]) 02:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:Quotations require citations, citations {{em|do not}} require quotations. {{tq|to back the citation/reference}} suggests to some that you aren't comfortable with the reliability of the source. I hacked your sandbox but left your quotations. In a real article, I would likely have deleted them.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 02:52, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::Unfortunately I've kinda self-recruited myself to help police a... contentious BLP article I came across and started an article that's a bit in my wheelhouse (and also... contentious), and wanted to build up an article that I've had my eye on for a while for a broad set of sciences I am interested in. I was thinking of using quotes down in the References section to minimize any agita by all involved, by being beyond transparent what I'm drawing my sourcing from. So just a page number at most, even for contentious stuff? I have a number of sources like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Very_Polite_Person/sandbox#cite_note-Choueiri_Field_Propulsion_history_Princeton_2012-05-23-1 this one] for various articles, some of them deep into the double digits or more that I've bee wanting to begin working off. I could be pulling 10, 20 usages off some of them, sometimes from the same page for different ends. Really, just the page number is plenty?
::And thanks for that edit, that's neat--does that template/inline linking there just default to the first character set of the reference 'anchor'? What if I have several sources from the same author, like multiple different "Wellerstein", different sources, but same year? Just use some other character string to differentiate? -- [[User:Very Polite Person|Very Polite Person]] ([[User talk:Very Polite Person|talk]]) 03:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Generally, the page number is enough. A reader who is sufficiently interested in consulting your source can (should) read the sourced material in its own context, where it is free from any real or perceived en.wiki bias.
:::
:::{{tlx|harvnb}} accepts one to four author surnames and a year. From these it makes a link to <code>CITEREF<{{var|name1}}><{{var|name2}}><{{var|name3}}><{{var|name4}}><{{var|year}}></code> (no spaces). At the same time, the cs1|2 templates create an identical target ID from the first four author surnames and the year portion of the source's publication date. When there are multiple sources by the same author(s) in the same publication year, to disambiguate, append a lowercase letter to the publication date:
::::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{cite book |last=Wellerstein |date=1900a |title=Title One}}</syntaxhighlight> → <code>CITEREFWellerstein1900a</code> (target)
::::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{cite book |last=Wellerstein |date=1900b |title=Title Two}}</syntaxhighlight> → <code>CITEREFWellerstein1900b</code>
::::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{harvnb|Wellerstein|1900a|p=35}}</syntaxhighlight> → <code>CITEREFWellerstein1900a</code> (link)
::::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{harvnb|Wellerstein|1900b|p=35}}</syntaxhighlight> → <code>CITEREFWellerstein1900b</code>
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 11:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:What is 'an unauthorised amin'? [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 03:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== Policy about quotation marks in a song title ==
:Which [[amin]] do you wish to delete and why? [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 08:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== Page move headers ==
I was looking at [[Hyakuman-kai no "I Love You"]] because of its DYK and I could swear there was a policy where you reduce the quotation marks in a title to single quotes if it's referred to in quotes (so the title of the article would be the same but in the text the song would be referred to as "Hyakuman-kai no 'I Love You'"). I can't find it, so maybe I hallucinated it... if someone could direct me to that policy (if it exists) it would be greatly appreciated. [[User talk:AsYouWish13|<span style="color:#003580">AsYouWish</span><span style="color:#ffa18a">13</span>]] 05:19, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:That's not a policy. It's just standard American English. Per [[Quotation mark]], "In American writing, quotation marks are normally the double kind (the primary style). If quotation marks are used inside another pair of quotation marks, then single quotation marks are used." [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 08:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{U|AsYouWish13}}, are you looking for [[MOS:"]]? [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 14:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|AsYouWish13}} The specific guideline for the usage in question is [[MOS:QWQ]]. Note the last sentence there for how to add a thin space between the closing single and double quotes. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 16:04, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
I started a Page Move discussion [[Larnoch Road murders|here]]. Another editor who strongly opposes my suggested title has now added his/her own preferred title to the move header as a second "alternative" suggestion. Tinkering with a move header like this seems [[WP:POINTY]] to me, but I can't find anything in WP policy that specifically addresses this. [[User:Muzilon|Muzilon]] ([[User talk:Muzilon|talk]]) 07:32, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== How to cite hardcopy sources which has no softcopy available on the internet ==
:Adding a direct link to the [[Talk:Larnoch Road murders#Requested move 2 October 2024|page move discussion for Larnoch Road murders]] for improved blind accessibility. [[User:Thisisnotatest|Thisisnotatest]] ([[User talk:Thisisnotatest|talk]]) 07:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== Redirect deleted category? ==
There's this 100yr jubillee book of the church which has the list of former layministers and sacristans. But i have doubt adding it here beacuse i cant refer it to a softcopy like a pdf on the internet. is there a way to add info from a source where a sopftcopy or a url for it is unavailable? [[User:VihirLak007|VihirLak007]] ([[User talk:VihirLak007|talk]]) 08:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
[[:Category:Pages with accessibility problems]] was recently deleted as overlapping [[:Category:Accessibility issue tracking categories]] but no redirect was created. I was thinking to add such a redirect, since it might help anyone who might have bookmarked the deleted category get to the kept one. I'm guessing the fact that one wasn't created implies that might not be a good idea.
:Wikipedia content is based on reliable published sources. They can be either hardcopy or softcopy, but they must be published, i.e. available to the public. If they are not published they cannot be used for Wikipedia content. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 08:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::if its available in a public library, which is in this case the public library of the church where the jubilee book is available for anyone to read, how can i cite it? any template? [[User:VihirLak007|VihirLak007]] ([[User talk:VihirLak007|talk]]) 08:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:::{{u|VihirLak007}}, you are describing a self-published source that can only be used with great caution, and the relevant policy language is at [[WP:ABOUTSELF]]. For a template, see [[Template: Cite book]]. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 08:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Is there a good reason not to create such a redirect for a deleted category? [[User:Thisisnotatest|Thisisnotatest]] ([[User talk:Thisisnotatest|talk]]) 07:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== donation ==
:{{Courtesy link|Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 13#Category:Pages with accessibility problems}}.{{pb}}{{u|Thisisnotatest}}, guidance is at [[WP:CATRED]], with a user essay at [[Wikipedia:Category redirects that should be kept]]. Category redirects are [[WP:Soft redirect|Soft redirect]]s, and watchlisting redirects doesn't show changes to the redirect target (also watchlisting a category doesn't show changes in membership).{{pb}}My phone somehow ate the second half of this reply, but a redirect is not needed. Per [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Category:Pages with accessibility problems]], three projectspace pages associated with WikiProject Disability may need to be updated to link the surviving category, but that's the last step I think. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 12:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Dear all,
I wanted to make a donation, but you ask to much privacy information:
name, email address, and then you also would know my bank account, which i don't like.
Sorry. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:A440:569D:1:94F9:E822:6B82:19AA|2A02:A440:569D:1:94F9:E822:6B82:19AA]] ([[User talk:2A02:A440:569D:1:94F9:E822:6B82:19AA|talk]]) 08:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Folly Mox}}, thank you. After checking those pages, it appears no further action is needed. Anyway, glad I asked. [[User:Thisisnotatest|Thisisnotatest]] ([[User talk:Thisisnotatest|talk]]) 03:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:That is really no different from making any other donation or purchase online, but you can find alternative ways to donate at https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 08:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
== geography ==
== Translated name of an institution ==
where was DIAL SQUARE IN THE UK? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:36B2:8400:4CD3:B10D:FD13:5BEB|2A02:C7C:36B2:8400:4CD3:B10D:FD13:5BEB]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:36B2:8400:4CD3:B10D:FD13:5BEB|talk]]) 11:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Our hospital ([[Hôpitaux universitaires de Genève]], a French name) has in the distant past used one English translation (Geneva university hospitals) of its name. Today, common practice and the formal decision to simplify down to the singular form in English, prefers the version: University hospital of Geneva. This is problematic as the Wikipedia page is of course titled as per the old translation : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_University_Hospitals
:See [[Dial Square F.C.]]. PS: wrong venue; you want the [[WP:RDM|Reference Desk]]. [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]'' 12:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:But to complete the trail of breadcrumbs, the original Dial Square was an area of workshops within the [[Royal Arsenal]]. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.6.86.81|94.6.86.81]] ([[User talk:94.6.86.81|talk]]) 12:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::<small>I was trying to avoid foul language... [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]'' 12:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>As a Leyton Orient supporter, I feel your pain. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.6.86.81|94.6.86.81]] ([[User talk:94.6.86.81|talk]]) 15:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</small>
== Merge archives? ==
Should I - and if so what are the repurcussions in terms of referencing - attempt to CORRECT that page title, and all the mentions therein? Or just leave it as is.
Hi, is it possible to merge the archives of two articles? [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]'' 12:06, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Curiously, the Wikimedia Commons label, under the External Sources section of our wiki page states having "media related to University Hospital of Geneva", the correct later English translation.
:[[WP:Histmerge]]s are possible in any namespace, but the method I've seen in the past is leaving the merged articles' talkpage archives at separate subpage titles. In this case [[Talk:Cheese dream]] has no content, so can be redirected without histmerge. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 12:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
The whole question arises in my mind as I started looking at updating the page of our new director general, where I was on the point of adding : "He is currently director general of the (later English translation name)" which, of course, would not match the name on the wikipage currently.
::{{reply|Folly Mox}} Ah, right; although it has no content is because I already archived it? [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]'' 12:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see: [[Talk:Cheese dream/Archive 1]] was not listed in an {{tl|archives}} on [[Talk:Cheese dream]], so I didn't see it. Also, I was wrong about the talkpage anyway: it transcludes {{tl|DYK talk}}.{{pb}}For my somewhat recent experience with this type of thing, you can see how it was handled at [[Help talk:Your first article/Archive 4]]. The upside to this is that talkpage threads referring to a specific article title are sequestered from one another; the downside is that users' contribs will appear to have been made directly to the archive (since it is a move target rather than copypasted by an archive bot).{{pb}}I don't really feel like doing a thorough examination of [[Talk:Cheese dream/Archive 1]] to see whether it would make sense to histmerge the talkpage archives, but I note after a brief naive search that as of [[Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 July 31#Talk Page Merger|eight years ago]], the vibe seems to have been {{xt|talkpages of merged articles usually don't get merged}}. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 12:51, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks {{u|Folly Mox}}, I'll leave it then. Gotta feeling I've messed something up somewhere, so probably best to leave well alone :) Cheers! [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]'' 12:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== Save Page Now on Wayback Machine ==
Thank you for your advice ! [[User:InstitCommsHug|InstitCommsHug]] ([[User talk:InstitCommsHug|talk]]) 12:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Twitter postings from Internet Archive state that Wayback Machine is now up and running. However, I still cannot Save Page Now. Is it still down after the cyberattack? Thanks. [[User:Tfhentz|Tfhentz]] ([[User talk:Tfhentz|talk]]) 14:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, please know that your username is against our [[WP:USERNAME|username policy]]. Your username cannot be that of your job or part of the company("Comms"), it must represent you as an individual, as only a single person should have exclusive access to your account and may not share it with others. Please go to [[Special:GlobalRenameRequest]] or [[WP:CHUS]] to request a change of username. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:52, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tfhentz|Tfhentz]]: [https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/14/24269741/internet-archive-online-read-only-data-breach-outage It's in read-only mode]. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu 🐲</span>]] ( [[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]] ) 15:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::Understood, thanks very much and will do (the change request.) [[User:InstitCommsHug|InstitCommsHug]] ([[User talk:InstitCommsHug|talk]]) 14:53, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:InstitCommsHug|InstitCommsHug]] Changing the title of an article is done by moving it to the new name. In this case [https://www.hug.ch/en the hospital's own website] (English version) still shows its name as Hôpitaux Universitaires Genève. Once we have a [[WP:RS|reliable source]], even the institution's own website, that documents what you call the "formal decision" to make the change to "University hospital of Geneva", then Wikipedia will follow suit. As a [[WP:PAID]] editor, there are some things you need to do (see that linked page) before you provide the move request, which can be on the Talk Page of the article using the [[WP:ERW|edit request wizard]] to draw it to the attention of uninvolved editors. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 13:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::[[WP:COMMONNAME]] is also relevant; the official or legal name of a topic is not necessarily the title of its article. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
== why are you letting everyone to edit? ==
== for PANCREAS (edit) I propose this link in "ADDITIONAL FUCTIONS": ==
wikipedia was about collecting moderate information but how is it legal to let anyone edit sources and history without knowing the intention of the edit? such as erasing a group's people history, culture and dehumanize them with biased or no-moderate information from extreme people.
I have seen this happening since the BDS movement, when cancel colture has been spreading lies about israelis and jews. I've seen this been manipulated to try and brainwash the world that "palestine was created a million years ago" when you search in google for "when palestine was created" (you won't see it anymore but surely sen it in tiktok and such but if you were smart you would see there was a manipulation of an article saying that "there was a find of homosapian body in a 'palesinian territory'" to monopolize the google search)
I've seen endless erasing and changes of jewish history just to try and erasing jew's connection to their home for YEARS and its happening with Oct 7th and Zionism as well.
you can also see the difference when you change the language.
this manipulation is part of a destruction and the rise of antisemitism is the results. (no, if you think zionism is not part of jews and you "don't hate jews" for critisizing ONLY israel and not terrorist groups, then you are brainwashed already)
!N "ADDITIONAL FUNTIONS" : HELP
seeing how many kids who don't have the ability for a critical mind use thise site for their "H.W.",perhaps you need to stop allowing everyone to monopolize the information like that? [[User:Grisimmm|Grisimmm]] ([[User talk:Grisimmm|talk]]) 14:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:We have two articles: [[History of Palestine]] (the geographical entity), and [[History of the State of Palestine]] (20th century partition plan) - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 15:43, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|Grisimmm}} Please read the information I will post on your user talk page. You are not permitted to edit about this topic. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:46, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== publish an article that is in my sandbox ==
Recently, an unprecedented role in pancreatic carcinogenesis has been highlighted through the concentration and elimination of radiocesium in pancreatic juice. Studies by Nelson, Sodee, Bandazhevsky, Venturi, and others, have reported that pancreatic cells have a high capacity to concentrate the harmful radioactive Cesium in experimental scintigraphies with Cs-137 and in soils polluted by radioactive fallout in mammals (mice, dogs and humans) and also in birds and fish (chickens and carp).<ref>{{Cite journal |last1=Nelson |first1=Arne |last2=Ullberg |first2=Sven |last3=Kristoffersson |first3=Harry |last4=Ronnback |first4=Curt |date=May 1961 |year=1961 |title=Distribution of Radiocesium in Mice |journal=Acta Radiologica |language=en |volume=55 |issue=5 |pages=374–384 |doi=10.3109/00016926109175132 |issn=0001-6926 |pmid=13728254 |doi-access=free}}</ref><ref>{{Cite journal |last=Sodee |first=DB |date=January 1964 |title=HG-197, As a scanning Nucleotide |department=Letter to the Editor |journal=J Nucl Med |volume=5 |issue=5 |pages=74–75 |pmid=14113151}}</ref><ref>{{Cite journal |last=Bandazhevsky Y.I. |year=2003 |title=Chronic Cs-137 incorporation in children's organs. |journal=Swiss Med. Wkly. |volume=133 |issue=35–36 |pages=488–90 |doi=10.4414/smw.2003.10226 |pmid=14652805 |s2cid=28184979 |doi-access=free}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |last1=Venturi |first1=Sebastiano |date=January 2021 |title=Cesium in Biology, Pancreatic Cancer, and Controversy in High and Low Radiation Exposure Damage—Scientific, Environmental, Geopolitical, and Economic Aspects |journal=International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health |language=en |volume=18 |issue=17 |pages=8934 |doi=10.3390/ijerph18178934 |pmc=8431133 |pmid=34501532 |doi-access=free}} [[File:CC-BY_icon.svg|50x50px]] Text was copied from this source, which is available under a [[creativecommons:by/4.0/|Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License]].</ref>
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[[User:Xventuri|Xventuri]] ([[User talk:Xventuri|talk]]) 14:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:ThisHello, I want to publish an article that is bestcurrently directedin tomy [[Talk:Pancreas]].sandbox, how can I do it? [[User:331dotPauletta Sofia|331dotPauletta Sofia]] ([[User talk:331dotPauletta Sofia|talk]]) 1417:4017, 1821 SeptemberOctober 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Xventuri|Xventuri]]This Noteis the thatEnglish-language Wikipedia. hasArticles veryare stringentwritten sourcingin requirements for medical claims, explained at [[WP:MEDRS]]English. IYour don'tsandbox thinkcontains thesean sourcesarticle qualifyin butSpanish, youand canthus discusswill thatnot onbe the Talk Page of the articleaccepted. [[User:Michael D. TurnbullAndyTheGrump|Mike TurnbullAndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:Michael D. TurnbullAndyTheGrump|talk]]) 1417:5320, 1821 SeptemberOctober 2024 (UTC)
:And now you have moved your Spanish article to mainspace in English Wikipedia, where it does not belong. There is no mechanism for moving pages between different Wikipedias, so you should create [[:es:Roberto Garzón Jiménez]] and then (assuming that your draft satisfies Spanish Wikipedia's policies), copy the source from [[Roberto Garzón Jiménez]] into it.
:::I note that you [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pancreas&diff=prev&oldid=141144828 have already added] material to the Italian Wikipedia and marked it as a "minor" change. That is not how such an addition would be considered here (see [[WP:MINOR]]). If you are in any way related to the author Venturi of the 2021 article (as seems possible given your username), you should carefully read [[WP:COI|this advice about conflict-of-interest editing]]. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 15:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:I note that you have uploaded [[:c:Notario Roberto Garzón Jímenez.jpg]] as "own work", without giving any copyright permission, so the image will get deleted in a few days unless you do so.
::::I am the author ( Venturi Sebastiano) of the two modifications in PANCREAS Wikipedia ( it and en.)
:I also note that if the photo (and the previous version) are indeed your own work, then you would appear to be associated with Jimenez, and as far as English Wikipedia is concerned you have a [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]]. (I don't know what Spanish Wikipedia's policies on this are). [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:41, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::::https://www.bing.com/chat?q=venturi+sebastiano+researches&qs=SYC&showconv=1&sendquery=1&FORM=ASCHT2&sp=4&ghc=1&lq=0 [[User:Xventuri|Xventuri]] ([[User talk:Xventuri|talk]]) 16:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::There actually is a mechanism for moving pages between wikis, see [[WP:IMPORT]], but it requires advanced permisssions. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 20:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== New article on WordPress Vs WPEngine or editing the main WordPress page? ==
== Not sure why this one page isn't showing as "disambig" while others do ==
Hi, the recent controversy surrounding WordPress and WPEngine has strong impact on the entire ecosystem and has already started changing the way people use WordPress. This is why I am thinking of creating a separate article on the issue.
Hello. I just hit my 20 year editor mark and was checking on the articles I've created via [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Jessamyn this page]. I noticed that the [[Harry Williamson]] disambig page shows on my list as "Unknown" in assessment while a very similar page, the [[Anita Miller]] disambig page shows up correctly as a disambiguation page. I've checked and they seem to have the same basic structure in terms of how they were created, categories, talk pages, etc. Not a huge deal but it's made me curious. What am I missing? Thank you. [[User:Jessamyn|Jessamyn]] ([[User talk:Jessamyn|my talk page]]) 19:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Jessamyn}} I made [[WP:NULL|null edits]] of [[Harry Williamson]] and [[Talk:Harry Williamson]]. It changed from "Unknown" to "Disambig". [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 20:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you, I have learned a thing today. [[User:Jessamyn|Jessamyn]] ([[User talk:Jessamyn|my talk page]]) 15:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
I want to know whether - as far as Wikipedia rules are concerned - creating a new page on this topic is legit or not.
== How to verify unpublished information obtained by a professional journalist (who is a Wikipedian)? ==
Thanks. [[User:ParallelDimension|ParallelDimension]] ([[User talk:ParallelDimension|talk]]) 17:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
A person, the topic of a Wikipedia article, died about a year ago. Reliable sources conflict or are ambiguous when they died. I started a talk page discussion. About a year later, a journalist who wrote one of the sources, who is also a Wikipedian, posted in that discussion saying they have personal correspondence from the family confirming the date of death. They want to know how to add this information. -- [[User:GreenC|<span style="color: #006A4E;">'''Green'''</span>]][[User talk:GreenC|<span style="color: #093;">'''C'''</span>]] 22:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
:IfThe dispute is covered by reliable sources. conflictMy onsuggestion theis dateto thencreate justa giveneutral bothwell-referenced datessection andabout bothit sourcesat [[WordPress]]. SourcesIf mustthat besection bothgrows publishedtoo andlong, accessiblethat towould be the publictime (orto atcreate leasta somespin-off members of the public)article. SeeFrankly, [[WP:PUBLISHED]]since andyou [[WP:PUBLISH]].are Personala communicationnew iseditor, notit "published"would bybe Wikipediavery standardsdifficult andfor isyou notto accessiblesuccessfully tocreate thea public,freestanding andarticle cannotabout bea useddispute asbetween two atech sourcecompanies. [[User:MetersCullen328|MetersCullen328]] ([[User talk:MetersCullen328|talk]]) 2320:3044, 1821 SeptemberOctober 2024 (UTC)
:To add to Cullen's answer: {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:But if the journalist in question is, in due course, able to have the date published in a source considered [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|Reliable]] by Wikipedia's criteria, as presumably was their previous piece, that new published piece could then be cited in the article. Remember, [[WP:There is no deadline|Wikipedia has no deadlines]], and every article is open to future improvement. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.6.83.137|94.6.83.137]] ([[User talk:94.6.83.137|talk]]) 11:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
== Initial volunteer editor review not received ==
= September 19 =
{{Courtesy link|Draft:Jeremiah Abraham Barondess}}
== Uploading logos from official Facebook pages? ==
I submitted a draft article on "Jeremiah A. Barondess, MD" in late May 2024 and was told that it would be reviewed by one of your volunteer reviewers. I was not expecting a response before four months, but it is now five months later. Could someone check on this matter? Dr. Barondess turned age 100 on June 6th, 2024 and we would like for his article to appear sometime soon. Thanks so much.
What is the policy regarding official logos found in Facebook? I was planning to upload church logos from official Facebook pages of churches to be used only in their respective articles' infoboxes. Are we allowed to upload such logos to Commons or Wikipedia under a Fair Use license or something else? [[User:Sanglahi86|Sanglahi86]] ([[User talk:Sanglahi86|talk]]) 11:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Gordon DeFriese [[User:GHDeFriese|GHDeFriese]] ([[User talk:GHDeFriese|talk]]) 17:51, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:It looks like you created it on your user page here [[User:GHDeFriese]] but you have not submitted it for review so nobody will have seen it. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:58, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::I went ahead and moved it to draft space as this post makes it clear they do want it reviewed. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 18:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:::It's submitted for review now, but while we're waiting I'd ''strongly'' suggest attaching [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to the text or there is very little chance it will be approved. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 18:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:GHDeFriese|GHDeFriese]], please read [[WP:BACKWARDS|BACKWARDS]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== About extended confirmed ==
:@[[User:Sanglahi86|Sanglahi86]] welcome to help desk! Logos are usually copyrighted (likely so) in which case they cannot be uploaded to Commons, but they can be uploaded to Wikipedia, provided they comply with [[Wikipedia:Logos]] criteria, specifically being used inside an actual mainspace article and other [[WP:NFCC]] criteria. This goes above and beyond the general Fair use criteria that newspapers might use. ~ 🦝 [[User:Shushugah|Shushugah]] (he/him • [[User talk:Shushugah|talk]]) 12:08, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
What is the quickest way to obtain [[WP:XCON]] status without having to wait for 500 edits? [[Special:Contributions/49.205.80.150|49.205.80.150]] ([[User talk:49.205.80.150|talk]]) 20:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
== Specific Dump ==
:There is no way for a new account to gain extended confirmed status without making 500 productive, useful edits over the course of a month or more. Why are you in a hurry? [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 20:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::There's also no way for an IP user to get it at all, so if this in reference to an account, please sign before continuing this discussion. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 20:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::Because Im tryna post on somebody's talk page [[Special:Contributions/37.21.150.38|37.21.150.38]] ([[User talk:37.21.150.38|talk]]) 11:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:I assume you're asking because you want to edit a page that is extended-confirmed protected, so I'll take this moment to warn you that if it looks like you were making a lot of edits simply to get extended confirmed status, that status can and will be revoked. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 20:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::I'm asking because I want to talk to somebody about on their talk page but their talk page is extendedconfirmed protected [[Special:Contributions/37.21.150.38|37.21.150.38]] ([[User talk:37.21.150.38|talk]]) 11:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:::In that case, {{u|37.21.150.38}}, trying to circumvent their preference (assuming they themself created the restriction) would seem somewhat impolite.
:::Instead, if you want to talk to them, you could post a message on your own Talk page that includes a [[Help:Notifications|WP:Ping]] to them. They can then respond on your talk page if they choose to. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.6.86.81|94.6.86.81]] ([[User talk:94.6.86.81|talk]]) 14:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Ohnoitsjamie}} Does this seem like a discussion you deleted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AHelp_desk&diff=1252461378&oldid=1252461342 yesterday]? [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 14:46, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
::::: Yes, thank you for pinging me. [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/DarwinandBrianEdits|This LTA]] is using proxies in an attempt to harass someone. I'm going to leave this here for reference; feel free to message me/ping me/report to [[WP:AIV|AIV]] if they show up again. They have a finite amount of proxies; the more we block, the better. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
== Is there a way to merge versions of an article? ==
Hi, I would like a dump for the following: All Featured articles, All featured lists, All good articles, and all Vital Articles (All levels). Preferrably in separate files for each of the requests. And also preferably in html, pdf, or a similar format. I don’t like the xml one due to it having the coding and unnecessary stuff included. Is this possible? Thanks, MrM [[User:MiniMikeRM|MiniMikeRM]] ([[User talk:MiniMikeRM|talk]]) 12:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
I've recently been dealing with an issue on the article [[List of string instruments]]. Basically, an IP user (45.186.112.244) made an edit to a section of the article that introduced a lot of problems, and involved deleting a lot of entries and breaking a lot of links (I'll spare you the details but suffice to say there were a lot of redlinks afterward). A few other users then gradually changed back parts of the section (each edit only fixed a few links at a time), and I cleaned up what remained.
:@[[User:MiniMikeRM|MiniMikeRM]] [[Help:Export]] doesn't reveal any obvious solutions. This might be a better question for [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)]]. Downloading all articles and filtering might be the other possibility. ~ 🦝 [[User:Shushugah|Shushugah]] (he/him • [[User talk:Shushugah|talk]]) 12:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:There have been a few similar questions both here and at the [[WP:TEA|Teahouse]] recently. @[[User:MiniMikeRM|MiniMikeRM]], is this related to a school project? [[User:Madam Fatal|Madam Fatal]] ([[User talk:Madam Fatal|talk]]) 18:25, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::Both for school and pers
::onal [[User:MiniMikeRM|MiniMikeRM]] ([[User talk:MiniMikeRM|talk]]) 11:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
But that still leaves the problem of the deleted entries. I'd love to just revert it, but a lot of those edits afterward also added information (mostly countries of origin) that would be lost if I reverted it back to the version right before the bad edit, and would be cumbersome to add back manually. I'm wondering if there is perhaps a way to merge that version with the current version of the article to fix all the problems that edit caused without sacrificing the info other people added afterwards. I know similar things are possible, like when two people edit an article at the same time, but I don't know if it's possible to do it manually and I don't know if it would even produce the right result. Any other information on how to potentially solve this problem is also welcome.
== Deletion: Draft space vs. drafts in user space ==
Best regards, [[User:TypoEater|TypoEater]] ([[User talk:TypoEater|talk]]) 22:22, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#Candidates]] states that respective article for deletion ''"are not moved to user space for fear of establishing a ''precedent'' that ''any'' premature article about an as-yet-unelected candidate for office can be kept in draftspace pending election returns, effectively making ''draftspace'' a repository for campaign brochures".'' This sentence mixes draft space and user space. Please for clarification: When an article for deletion is considered good enough to be kept as a draft - when is it moved to draft space, when to user space? --[[User:KnightMove|KnightMove]] ([[User talk:KnightMove|talk]]) 15:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:I ''think'' what you are proposing would be possible by first doing a [[WP:HISTSPLIT|history split]] then doing a selective [[WP:HISTMERGE|history merge]] but I might be wrong about that. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 03:52, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, KnightMove. I very much suspect that that sentence partly predates the introduction of Draft space. Since Draft space has been around, I've never heard of anybody moving an article from mainspace (or Draft space) to User space.
:I suggest that "user" should be replace by "draft" - but it's probably best to ask on the talk page of the page you've quoted. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you. Please a follow-up question: Do you remember how it was called in the past when an Article for Deletion got moved into user space? I see that now the result of a discussion may be "The result was Draftify." In former times, I have found "The result was incubate." to move the page to ''Wikipedia:Article Incubator/pagename''. Are there examples for pages being moved to userspace in those cases, and how has the result been called then? --[[User:KnightMove|KnightMove]] ([[User talk:KnightMove|talk]]) 16:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi, KnightMove. Have a look at [[WP:Userfication]]. I don't think it's had any real edits since 2022. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:37, 19 Se tember 2024 (UTC)
::::Ok, thanks. Then as probably last question: How was the AfD discussion result then worded? I would assume "The result was userfy.", but Google finds for this wording only one single example, [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ela Mishra]] (from 2021). --[[User:KnightMove|KnightMove]] ([[User talk:KnightMove|talk]]) 17:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I have seen "The result was userfy" as the outcome, but only in [[WP:MfD]] for [[WP:Essay|essays]] that are published to Wikipedia: space when they should stay as user essays or projects. [[User:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#6BAD2D">Recon</span>]][[User talk:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#2F3833">rabbit</span>]] 18:04, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
== LauraOctober Loomer22 ==
Laura Loomer posted on X that there are Wiki articles about her that are not true but you will not allow her to delete or refute them. Is this true? [[Special:Contributions/108.51.235.29|108.51.235.29]] ([[User talk:108.51.235.29|talk]]) 16:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:Obviously there is the article [[Laura Loomer]], and when she is considered relevant and a public figure, then she has no right to get her article deleted. I won't get into this whether she tries to get biased content removed, or wants to introduce biased content herself, or both. --[[User:KnightMove|KnightMove]] ([[User talk:KnightMove|talk]]) 16:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::It is not true that she is not allowed to refute what is said about her, but she may not know the right way to do it. If Loomer or anyone else has specific concerns about that article, the place to discuss it is [[Talk:Laura Loomer]]. Another, higher visibility option is [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard]]. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 16:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:::By the way, the archives of the Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard show that Laura Loomer has been discussed there three times over the years. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
== Secondary sourcing where primary sourcing may be more relevant ==
== Buxreal/sandbox ==
If I don't have access to a source to back up a claim, but a reliable source backs up the same claim while citing the original, can that source be used to attribute a fact?
Hello, several weeks ago I created the Buxreal/sandbox page by inserting the contents related to the activities of an event created by me and entitled Cross Cities. The contents were largely copied from the website <nowiki>https://crosscities.cloud</nowiki> created by me and where all the contents (texts, img, video...) were equally elaborated and inserted by me. Having said this, the page is no longer visible because I was accused of appropriating contents subject to copyright but, despite having reported that all the contents were my intellectual property to the Wikipedia contact who had deleted the page, he did not respond to me. To date I have created a new Cross Cities/sandbox page in which I would like to report the contents already well organized in the deleted one. I kindly ask you to allow me to review the Buxreal/sandbox page so as to copy the code and transfer it to this new one.
The context is: "[Researcher A] stated that "claim to be attributed here" ([Researcher B])". I don't have access to the source by Researcher B. Both sources are what I'd consider reliable scholarly material and Wikipedia is built on secondary sources, but I'd rather be sure that this claim could be used. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 01:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your support
:{{u|GeorgeMemulous}}, I find your question pretty vague but I will try my best to answer. Although use of primary sources is not forbidden, reliable secondary sources are preferred. They are one step removed from the original observation, and can analyze, compare and fact check primary sources. Such secondary sources provide the best source material for Wikipedia editors to summarize. When using a secondary source that discusses and analyzes a primary source, you need to read the secondary source, but it is not necessary that you read the primary source mentioned, although you can do so if you wish. As it were, the author of the secondary source has done that reading for you. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 07:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
== possible article on list of suppressed views/ideas in the past ==
Maurizio Chiantone [[User:Buxreal|Buxreal]] ([[User talk:Buxreal|talk]]) 18:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
hi,
:Hello, Buxreat.
do we have an entry on list of suppressed views of the past, or list of suppressed contemporary views.
:First, as to the issue of copyright: if the material has previously been published anywhere, unless that publication explicitly releases it either into the [[WP:public domain|public domain]] or under a copyleft licence such as [[WP:CC-BY-SA|CC-BY-SA]], then Wikipedia will assume it is copyright. You can override this only by sending a mail according to [[WP:donating copyright materials|donating copyright materials]].
In regards to views that were suppressed historically, , A favorite example is how opposition to germ theory lead to refusals to accept or properly test the ideas of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis Semmelweis.]
:However, there is no point in doing so, because material from the event's website (whoever writes it) is unlikely to be of much use in writing a Wikipedia article about the event. {{HD/WINI}}
I can't find any entry for the kind of list that I am describing here.
:Unless you can find several sources that are wholly independent of you and your event - not written or published by the event, and not based on an interview or press release, but people wholly unnconnected with you choosing to write in depth about the event - then the event will not meet Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:notability|notability]], and no article will be possible.
[[User:Kaveinthran|Kaveinthran]] ([[User talk:Kaveinthran|talk]]) 05:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:Two further points to note: one is that [[WP:NOTPROMO|promotion]] of any kind is not permitted in Wikipedia.
:So you're looking for a list of ideas that were once generally rejected, and are now generally accepted? Like [[continental drift]] and the [[Big Bang]]? If so, I wouldn't use the word "suppressed". [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 06:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:The other is that if you are associated with the event, then you have a [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]]: this does not prevent you from working on such an article, but it does put some restrictions.
::Agreed. "suppressed" is a very loaded term. One layperson's "suppressed idea" is a subject-matter expert's "widely ignored and long-refuted disinformation". --[[User:Orangemike|<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span>]] | [[User talk:Orangemike|<span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span>]] 06:49, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:Also note that ie there is an article about your event, whoever writes it, it will not belong to you, it will not be controlled by you, and it will not necessarily say what you would like it to say. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::thanks for that added context, I agree with you. [[User:Kaveinthran|Kaveinthran]] ([[User talk:Kaveinthran|talk]]) 07:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:::It's an area that could easily led to [[WP:OR]]/[[WP:SYNTH]], so it would be tricky to do this.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 08:42, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Kaveinthran|Kaveinthran]] [[List of superseded scientific theories]] might be of interest. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
== Merging and renaming articles ==
== Nudity ==
The published article SEMCAD needs to be merged with the text of the as yet unpublished draft Sim4Life, and the article must be renamed Sim4Life. The SEMCAD software platform is being discontinued and replaced by Sim4Life. SEMCAD was developed (I think in the early 2000s) by Schmidt and Partner Engineering AG (SPEAG) as a computational tool for simulating electromagnetic (EM) functions of wireless devices; Sim4life was developed by ZMT Zurich MedTech (a SPEAG partner) on the backbone of SEMCAD, with the addition of computational human phantoms to allow simulation of EM radiation with human physiology. How should I proceed? [[User:PLBounds|PLBounds]] ([[User talk:PLBounds|talk]]) 14:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
What is nudity [[Special:Contributions/41.122.131.24|41.122.131.24]] ([[User talk:41.122.131.24|talk]]) 19:47, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:PLBounds|PLBounds]] As far as I can tell, you created the [[SEMCAD]] draft, which was accepted into mainspace via the [[WP:AfC]] process. If that needs merging with your current (declined) draft [[Draft:Sim4Life]], then why not just incorporate that material yourself now and abandon the draft? The title of the enlarged article can be discussed subsequently, or you could be [[WP:BOLD]] and [[WP:MOVE]] it yourself. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 14:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:[[Nudity]]. [[User:Edgewurth|Edgewurth]] ([[User talk:Edgewurth|talk]]) 19:57, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks very much, very helpful! [[User:PLBounds|PLBounds]] ([[User talk:PLBounds|talk]]) 14:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
== Odd problem with the shift key ==
== Distressing bug ==
Pressing the shift key on my chromebook makes the text entry go to the beginning (for example, if I were to press shift while typing this message, it will cause the caret to start typing at the top.) This only happens with wikipedia. Is this a wikipedia feature or my PC? [[User:Cooldudeseven7|<span style="color:green">Cooldudeseven7</span>]] [[User talk:Cooldudeseven7|<sub>join in on the tea talk</sub>]] 14:50, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Hello! At some point over the past couple of hours, [[Andrew Jackson and the slave trade in the United States#Individual slave sales]] many/all templates are throwing bright red '''<nowiki>Expression error: Unexpected < operator'''in '''The time allocated for running scripts has expired.</nowiki>''' error messages. I don't know what I did it or how to fix it. Help? [[User:Jengod|jengod]] ([[User talk:Jengod|talk]]) 21:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
== Image inserting ==
:Well now it's magically fine again. Thank you to whomever fixed it or reverted my hallucination. appreciate it. {{resolved}} [[User:Jengod|jengod]] ([[User talk:Jengod|talk]]) 21:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
I was inserting an image in a page at gallery section that I have uploaded in Wikimedia commons. I have tried to edit the link to add hyper and accidentally clicked delete button. The link of my image was deleted. I thought I will do it letter because the battery of my device was low. So I clicked publish changes. When the page returned I saw that other images at the gallery section are showing as plain text and the texts are the source links of the images. It seems like I have deleted some on the previous html texts. [[Special:Contributions/103.121.62.117|103.121.62.117]] ([[User talk:103.121.62.117|talk]]) 16:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
== My monthly donation ==
:{{la|C/2023 A3 (Tsuchinshan–ATLAS)}}
:I have put back the missing {{tag|gallery|c}} tag, and the pictures re now showing. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 16:58, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:: (1) You included brackets around the filename, which is not necessary when adding to a gallery (2) I've removed the photo you attempted to add, as the quality is not sufficient to merit inclusion there. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 18:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
== Questions about answering edit requests ==
I see on my bank statement that I donate 5.00 per month. How do I find that on Wikipedia? [[User:Whalerson|Whalerson]] ([[User talk:Whalerson|talk]]) 22:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
I've decided to try out something new and answer edit requests, and I've made a couple posts over at [[Wikipedia talk:Edit requests]] that could use answering/discussion if anyone here happens to be experienced in that area. [[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#324717">The</span><span style="color:#45631f">big</span><span style="color:#547826">ugly</span><span style="color:#68942f">alien</span>]] ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:sienna">talk</span>]]) 18:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:You can't find it on Wikipedia, because donations are handled by the Wikimedia Foundation, and don't impinge directly on Wikipedia. See [[Donate:FAQ]] [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::There is no ethical way to connect your anonymous Wikipedia username {{u|Whalerson}} with any real person who may or may not have donated money to the Wikimedia Foundation. The ability to do so would be a monumental violation of your privacy. I happen to voluntarily disclose my real world identity after seriously pondering the implications which have included targeted death threats against me to intimidate me for my Wikipedia editing. But all editors who wish to remain anonymous should have that right, without anyone knowing how many dollars if any they have donated. That is the path to corruption. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 05:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I think the OP might want to know how to change their donation. If I knew, I wouldn't have a problem with simply answering the question. ―[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#888;">☎</span>]] 06:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Whalerson}} If that's what you want then see See [[:donate:Cancel or change recurring giving]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
== How to handle reverting by redirect? ==
= September 20 =
Hi. The article [[Cryptoterrestrial hypothesis]] was redirected to [[Hollow Earth]] today. I reverted the redirect and started a discussion, but the redirect was reinstated. I reverted again and again discussed the issues. But the redirect was again made.
== In 1964 I flew with KLM from Amsterdam to Sydney, how long would the flight have been and how many stops? ==
I think we should be discussing an outcome in the Talk pages. What do you suggest as my next step? [[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 20:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Flight Amsterdam/Sydney 1964 [[Special:Contributions/103.254.135.162|103.254.135.162]] ([[User talk:103.254.135.162|talk]]) 05:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
: The help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. General knowledge questions can be asked at the Reference Desk [[WP:RDM]] [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 05:17, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:Or use ChatGPT. [[User:Wouterhagens|Wouterhagens]] ([[User talk:Wouterhagens|talk]]) 08:16, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
::ChatGPT is [[Hallucination (artificial intelligence)|not a reliable source]]. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 15:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{U|Johnjbarton}}, what characteristics sufficiently differentiate [[Cryptoterrestrial hypothesis]] from [[Hollow Earth]] such that two articles are needed, rather than one article and a redirect? (I don't know anything about this / these topic(s).) [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 20:44, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
== Writing sections when sites to cite aren't available ==
::@[[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] I don't think two articles are needed. I think that sources in [[Cryptoterrestrial hypothesis]] should be reduced to remove some that are not notable and then the remainder should be merged with [[Hollow Earth]]. I would need to look into the sources to have an opinion on the final title. I reverted the redirect because it was done with no discussion and contrary to the work by five or six editors in building the article, reviewing it in AfC, and editing it into its current form. It was done with no discussion of the notability of the topic, the references, or the need, or lack thereof, for two articles. I think the article should be restored and the established [[WP:merge|merge]] or [[WP:Redirects for discussion]] process should apply. [[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 22:51, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Johnjbarton, since this is not in article space, I want to give you some behavior related advice here, more than what I alluded to on the talk page. I noticed some of this too when I came in as an uninvolved editor from the noticeboard discussion.
:::At Wikipedia, we have a concept called [[WP:WIKILAWYERING]] that we try to avoid. You've been given guidance on that partially through [[WP:NOTBURO]] policy and [[WP:DRNC]] already, but I mention that because I do believe it would be helpful for you to learn more about this and how to avoid it in disputes. Simply because someone makes a bold redirect does not mean you are justified in automatically undoing the redirect simply because there wasn't discussion (that is the nature of a bold redirect). There needs to be actual reason that the redirect is undone, not bureaucratic ones. You keep using the word "process" but are misunderstanding how the process works. Not every redirect has to go through RfD/AfD, especially when editors agree on it and there's consensus for it.
:::When the redirect was initially done, another editor left the edit summary, {{tq|Per WP:FTN. Content history preserved. You can try to incorporate this stuff over there if you think it deserves WP:WEIGHT. . .}}. Especially since you also agree with the merge, it becomes [[WP:POINTY]] when you edit war over the redirect. Just simply work on the target article for content you think should be merged in. [[User:KoA|KoA]] ([[User talk:KoA|talk]]) 03:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
:Either way, @[[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] and @[[User:Bon courage|Bon courage]] are [[WP:edit warring|edit warring]] and both need to stop and discuss it. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:46, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, that is why I am here. [[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 22:52, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
= October 23 =
This is bout writing the history section of a local church in my area. But the history is not available to cite it from a softcopy like a pdf or a website. Whats the best way to write that section? Is there any inline comments to be made so other editors know whats going on, or are there any tags to add too, to that section like [[template:unreferenced|unreferenced]] [[User:VihirLak007|VihirLak007]] ([[User talk:VihirLak007|talk]]) 10:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
== American singer, Toni Fisher. ==
:Anything you write in an article ''must'' be verifiable from a published source, but that source does not have to be online. Hard copy sources are fine, as long as they are published, so (for example) a reader could obtain a copy through a major library.
:The important parts of a citation are the bibliographic information: author, title, date, publisher, name of publication etc; even if the resource is available online, a link is usually a convenience for a reader, not a necessary part of the citation.
:You can use templates such as {{tl|cite book}} to format the citation: see [[WP:Referencing for beginners|Referencing for beginners]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:41, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
American singer toni fisher was listed as being born on 4th. of December 1924. But other sources say that she was born 1931. What is the correct date? [[Special:Contributions/180.150.38.127|180.150.38.127]] ([[User talk:180.150.38.127|talk]]) 00:18, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
== How to improve wiki page I created before Publishing? ==
:Hi IP 180.150.38.127. The correct date of birth for [[:Toni Fisher]] may be something that Wikipedia is unable to determine on its own. Wikipedia content, in principle, is only intended to reflect what's written in [[:WP:RS|reliable sources]]; so, if reliable sources state that Fisher was born on December 4, 1924, then that's pretty much what the Wikipedia article is going to be expected to say as well. Of course, in some cases, reliable sources may give different dates of birth for the subject of an article, and in such cases Wikipedia content may reflect or otherwise make mention of such differences. So, if you think that's the case here, you can either try to add content to the article regarding the discrepancy in reliable sources with respect to her date of birth yourself, or you can start a discussion about it at [[:Talk:Toni Fisher]]. Please be advised though that Wikipedia defines reliable sources in a specific way, and not everything found on the Internet is, for example, going to be considered a reliable source.{{pb}}The ''Find a Grave'' page cited being cited as a source in the article isn't really considered a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes per [[:WP:RS/P#Find a Grave]]; however, somebody uploaded an image of a newspaper obituary for Fisher under her married name "Toni F. Monzello" to ''Find A Grave'' and that could be a reliable source for such information; unfortunately, only a clipping of the obituary is shown without any identifying information to the newspaper in comes from. The obituary does give her date of birth as December 4, 1924, but there's no real way to verify the source without knowing more about the paper it comes from. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 01:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, can someone please check the page I created under name, ''Charlie gray''? I edited it and I need someone to read it before I publish it. What can I do for the page to be accepted? I already deleted half of it. [[User:DialaSharief|DialaSharief]] ([[User talk:DialaSharief|talk]]) 15:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:The best way to get feedback is to submit it, instead of asking for a pre-review review. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
::It was rejected and then I reedited it. I don't know how many submissions I'm allowed to make. [[User:DialaSharief|DialaSharief]] ([[User talk:DialaSharief|talk]]) 15:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:::You can resubmit it as often as you like, within reason. But if you resubmit it whout citing any references that attest to his [[WP:N|notability]], you will be wasting everyone's time. You will need reliable ''independent'' (not based on what he or his employers have said) published sources with ''extensive discussion'' of him. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 15:42, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
== Search help ==
Is there a pet scan or search query string that could help me find a list of Wikipedia articles or even userpages that have links to youtube music videos on them? The reason I ask is because I would like to find more pages similar to this one: [[User talk:MjolnirPants#Music]]. Thanks. <span style="text-shadow:3px 3px 3px lightblue">[[User:Huggums537|'''Huggums''']]<sup>'''537'''<sub>[[User:Huggums537/Poll|voted!]]</sub> ([[User:Huggums537/Guestbook|sign🖋️]]|[[User talk:Huggums537|📞talk]])</sup></span> 15:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{reply|Huggums537}} Could you use [https://petscan.wmcloud.org/ PetScan]? An external tool, lets you search by links, templates, categories etc, and is more versatile than the in-house search.Go to Templates & links > Links to > All of these pages, and enter your link. [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]'' 15:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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