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:::::It should also be noted how [https://hackinginquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IPSO-report-2020.pdf ineffective the IPSO complaint system is]. Chances are we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg because 94% of complaints are rejected, 0.3% are upheld and 5.3% are abandoned or never investigated. This isn't surprising because The Press Recognition Panel (the body which audits press regulators for independence and effectiveness) has referred to IPSO as a ‘trade complaint handling body with no independent oversight [[User:Andromedean|Andromedean]] ([[User talk:Andromedean|talk]]) 16:47, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::[https://www.newarab.com/news/exclusive-ipso-reviewing-developments-jewish-chronicle Exclusive: UK press regulator IPSO "carefully reviewing developments at the Jewish Chronicle"] We'll see. [[User:Selfstudier|Selfstudier]] ([[User talk:Selfstudier|talk]]) 18:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
::::The only reason that so many cases are being dragged before IPSO is presumably because they are not responding adequately to direct complaints. Being dragged before a trade tribunal, and then making amends only after you lose isn't contrition or commitment to editorial standards; it's simply the legal obligation at the end of a long road of stubborn editorial recalcitrance. [[User:Iskandar323|Iskandar323]] ([[User talk:Iskandar323|talk]]) 05:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::My concern is that we could use evidence of misconduct that is no different from any other publication to ban some publications, but not others. For example, the Jewish Chronicle has had four breaches upheld against it by the IPSO in the last two years, which is the same number as the Times, although a higher rate because it is a weekly. While no one claims that the Jewish Chronicle is in the same league as the Times, that doesn't mean it should be deprecated.
::In the past, we deprecated a source because it published a false news story that had appeared in most mainstream media sources.