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:::::::::'''Conflict resolution''': As I want this dispute resolved as civilly as possible, I would like to put forward a proposal. I am aware that I mentioned solving it through peer reviewing but have since realised the waiting time may be several months and other solution are possible. My suggestion is:
:::::::::Økonom makes a comment on the talk page in which he states all his considerations about the article like he's kind of already done (could be wording, specific text proposals to change, add or delete text etc.) Following that, I'll similarly make a comment with my considerations. Thereafter, we both agree to mutual non-interference and let the remaining Wikipedia community discuss the article. Here, I would make invites to join in on the discussion at the common forum of Danish Wikipedia, Portal:Denmark''',''' Portal:Biography and Portal:Politics. When consensus is close to be reached, we are both allowed to give our "closing statements". This requires that the focus of the discussion is the text itself and not the author’s motives etc., which is a topic for this noticeboard. What do both of you think? [[User:Marginataen|Marginataen]] ([[User talk:Marginataen|talk]]) 13:02, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
{{od}} Not realistic, I'm afraid, {{u|Marginataen}}. You two sitting back and "let[ting] the remaining Wikipedia community discuss the article", here at the English Wikipedia, is unlikely to suddenly awaken an interest in Danish politicians which has hitherto been lacking. Did you notice how nobody but the two of you (and, slightly, myself) have edited this very thread? There's a reason, and I highly doubt there's enough interest in Danish politics on the English Wikipedia for the method you suggest. As for [[Portal:Denmark]] and the other portals you mention: portals, as such, frankly don't seem to be of interest to many. Look at the history of Portal Denmark: the last edit was a year ago. Last edit but one was ''three'' years ago! This is not a special problem for Denmark; it's more that nobody likes portals, or is interested in them. (I frankly don't understand why all the portals aren't marked historical and put out of their misery.)
There's an unspoken assumption in our rules for dealing with conflict that there's plenty of interest in everything, but that's sadly not the case. The lack of enwiki interest in the politician at issue here, [[Mikkel Bjørn]], should not mean that an obvious supporter of Bjørn, such as Marginataen (because I have to agree with {{u|Økonom}} above that Marginataen edits Bjørn's article like a supporter), gets to have a field day with the English article after being blocked from the Danish one. Marginataen's editing is painfully detailed; there seems to be little Bjørn has ever said that is not quoted by Marginataen, who by contrast does not include the slightest criticism from anybody, that I can see. On the contrary, Marginataen also seems keen to quote admiring things said ''about'' Bjørn. (Here's one: "Mikkel Bjørn is an excellent and conservatively nationally rooted politician who has God, king and fatherland tattooed right into his heart"). The idea of ending - ''ending'' - a political biography with the sentence "Asked at the same occasion what it would be if he could change one thing in Danish society, Bjørn replied, "Mitigate the consequences of the liberal immigration law of 1983. Many bad things have happened in the wake of that law. Terror, parallel societies, social control, cultural disintegration tendencies, relatively heightened crime and so on" is particularly egregious in my opinion. Biography articles here aren't supposed to be showpieces for a politician's views. The way you have presented those views is really not a lot like what happens in the article [[Bernie Sanders]] which you mention, Marginataen.
I conclude that this article needs some admin action. I for my part have slightly edited it, but I don't believe anybody could say I'm [[WP:INVOLVED|involved]], so minor and neutral as my edits have been. I have page-blocked Marginataen from editing [[Mikkel Bjørn]] for six months, while leaving the talkpage open for him to discuss and make suggestions. If I should be made aware of similarly promotional editing at other articles, especially from now on, Marginataen, there may be further blocks. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 14:45, 6 June 2023 (UTC).
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