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*'''Indian victory''' - Of all options, "Indian victory" is the most accurate assessment because Jammu and Kashmir was a disputed territory and India managed to gain over 67% of the territory as well as more than 70% of the population as noted by the scholars; "{{tq|In the first Kashmir war, India occupied two-thirds of the disputed territory and Pakistan was clearly defeated during its first war with India.}}"[https://www.routledge.com/Pakistans-National-Security-Approach-and-Post-Cold-War-Security-Uneasy/Ali/p/book/9780367714758] We must also note that "{{tq|the ceasefire came at a time when the Indian forces had the upper hand}}"[https://books.google.com/books?id=USowAQAAIAAJ]. Long term effects should be also counted; "{{tq|The war for states had not only ended in Indian military victory but had given its leaders enormous self-confidence and satisfaction over a job well done. The effect of the defeat in Pakistan was no less important but was completely negative.}}"[https://books.google.com/books?id=8cPvqCNy8zsC] Nobody says that the war was a victory for Pakistan because Pakistan lacked advantages in comparison with India, that's why "inconclusive" makes no sense to me. [[User:Abhishek0831996|Abhishek0831996]] ([[User talk:Abhishek0831996|talk]]) 06:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
*'''Indian victory''' per above. According to reliable sources, if there was any "victor" in the war, then that was India. Those who state that the war was inconclusive are mainly passing mentions and they haven't refuted the fact that India was the victor. It has been commonly held that "Pakistan has fought and lost four wars with India (1947, 1965, 1971 and 1999)". [https://books.google.com/books?id=jNXFEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA27] Wikipedia should state the same. <span style="font-family:'Forte';">[[User:Ratnahastin|<span style="color:#d93634;">Ratnahastin</span>]] ([[User talk:Ratnahastin|talk]])</span> 06:40, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
*'''Indian victory'''. There are no two ways about describing the result of the Kashmir war or diverging perspectives in academia that some have made it out to be here (and dare I say perfunctorily) in order to force a ''see aftermath'' result (which would be a necessary prerequisite to occlude the idea of Indian victory). The very first issue that is manifest is that the attendant sources for gainsaying the scholarly support for Indian victory result have not been brought out directly here which precludes a editorial scrutiny of them. Whatever sources that have been indirectly handwaved to (and not cited directly to weigh in favour of options ''c'' or ''b'') in earlier discussions as being sprinkled in discussions elsewhere were when considered (vide the discussion in the first thread), including Paul, T. V., Snedden, Sisson, Batra, Surinder Mohan, Kennedy (and one need only ctrl+f each to look over the same) did not stand up to scrutiny.) They all: a) fell into the rubric of passing mentions, and some so laconic as being a mere sentence chunk, b) touching on various aspects of the subject like ceasefire and the nature of political dispute, which is completely extraneous to the result of the military engagement. The sources have to be specifically reliable for the statement being made for them to be considered reliable, and this was conveniently given a short shrift to.
There is no divergence in academia on the results of the war as the numerous sources regarding India affirmatively on the question exemplify. It's the political dispute that has reached an impasse, and that's what the scholars observe in their brief consideration of the dispute. But that has also not precluded scholars from exploring the military successes accruing to India (which was the better of the two sides) during the course of the war. At the proclamation of the ceasefire, India stood in possession of the two-thirds of the territory of Kashmir and five-sevenths of its populace. Together with that, Pakistan had suffered 3x casualties than India. "Indian victory" is purely valid. [[User:Dhawangupta|Dhawangupta]] ([[User talk:Dhawangupta|talk]]) 14:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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