Talk:Shane McMahon

Children

Shane has 2 children and his wife Marissa is pregnant with a third child as it says on Shanes Myspace. Here is a link to were it says it http://bulletins.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bulletin.read&authorID=485266321&messageID=6535702907 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.7.56 (talk) 00:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm biggest fan of Roman reings NEERAJ JAISWAR (talk) 12:26, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm biggest fan of Roman reings NEERAJ JAISWAR (talk) 12:26, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Shane / The Boogeyman

Was it Shane who came up with the idea of The Boogeyman? ThinkBlue 18:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Vince's 'death'

Decided to delete all references to it for now. Alexrushfear 20:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

He's NOT dead!!!!!!  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Precisely ;-) Alexrushfear 23:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to make sure!!!!  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Surname

I saw on NBC that Vince and Linda gave him Linda's maiden name as his surname, to honor her family. So, his name is actually Shane Roger Edwards... I guess he goes by McMahon to be like the rest of the family. I saw this on TV, but I can't find an internet source to confirm this. I also don't know why his name is listed as "Shane Brandon" when his name was given as "Shane Roger" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.119.40 (talk • contribs)

If you can find a source to verify this, we can certainly add it. Bmg916^Speak 15:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

What the hell are you talking about? His middle name is Brandon. How do I know that? Reference point: 2006, Shawn Michaels made a note, when he was interviewed by Maria at Backlash 2006; I don't remember exactly what he said, but he said that he was gonna bring Vincent Kennedy McMahon and his son Shane Brandon McMahon to their knees!!!! You can verify it by watching the Backlash DVD.  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Watch the Over the edge 1998 PPV... Viscera called him "Shane Edwards"... then he said "I'm going to get you Roger!" At least I think it was Over the Edge - The Dude —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.119.40 (talk • contribs)

You mean, Shane Stevens!!!! That was his referee name!!! I got proof his middle name is Brandon!!!! If you see his Corporate Bio!!!! It says: Shane B. McMahon - the B for Brandon!!!! Where's your proof?  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Blacklist

For some reason the following reference, <ref name="Details Magazine">{{cite web |url=http://men.style.com/details/features/full?id=content_4990&pageNum=17 |title=The Power 50: DETAILS Article on men.style.com |accessdate=2007-07-17 |publisher=[[Details (magazine)|Detail Magazine]]|date=October 2006}}</ref> (used to cite his rank on Detail Magazine's "most powerful men" list), is blacklisted. I think because it contains the word "men" in the link but I'm not entirely sure. - Deep Shadow 14:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Who trained Shane McMahon?

I added a "Citation Needed" tag for the claim that Lou Thesz trained Shane McMahon. I haven't been able to find any evidence for this. I've found references to him being trained by Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson, Jerry Brisco and Al Snow, but no reference to Lou Thesz. Is anyone able to clear this up? GaryColemanFan 03:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Upon further investigation, Tom Prichard was listed as Shane McMahon's trainer until an anonymous user vandalised the article at 19:24 on June 12, 2007. All of the revisions made by this user except for the trainer were changed back. So, did Tom Prichard train him? The list of suspects is growing and growing... GaryColemanFan 03:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Survivor Series 2007

Was Shane at ringside for the Hornswaggle-Khali match? (Sawyer (talk) 00:26, 22 November 2007 (UTC))

Yup. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

2008

Just added this to the main page and wrote what he did in the NO Way Out paperview. So if you want you can make it sound more encyclopedia like. I tried. Julie 12:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

He also appeared on monday 10th March 2008 (the weigh in between Big show and Mayweather) Adam 12:40 15 March 2008.Adster95 (talk) 12:40, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I added this but it is not very encyclopedia like so if you want to make it like that. Adster95 (talk) 19:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Divorce?

Had heard Shane had divorced Marissa and married someone called Shannon? Any truth to this? CrazyFoolMrT (talk) 09:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

German not available

The German Article doesn't exist. Please someone delete this link because I cant ;-) 88.64.112.179 (talk) 21:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Shane, shooting star press?

Uh, so when has Shane ever done that? I'll buy a moonsault, but there's no video on teh youtube and I would think someone would have posted that. I'll leave it for awhile but I'd like to see some actual references to confirm that it actually did happen. He's a good wrestler for a non-full timer, but he's no Paul London in terms of flexibility.

He broke it out against Kurt Angle at King of the Ring 2001, although he did miss it.FlairFanClassic (talk) 13:13, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Sources

'''''Where are Sources for the Nicknames and wrestling moves?''''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Washington95 (talk • contribs) 00:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Enter.

Shane McMahon used to come out to ring by the song Here Comes The Money. Does it say in the article about his enterance.--Pabloviva22 (talk) 22:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

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This Page should be semi-protected

I am in favor of protecting this page from vandalism, who's with me? 72.172.41.18 (talk) 04:25, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Lesnar's Sons

Acc to the wikipedia article Lesnar has 4 childs. Eldest child is one half of twins: Mya - born April 10, 2002 Eldest SON is the other half: LUKE - born also April 10, 2002 (10 minutes later) Both childs are with his former fiance Nicole McLain.

Lesnar also has two sons with Sable: Turk, born June 3, 2009 and DUKE, born July 21, 2010.

The article about Shane McMahon says, that his eldest Son Declan is a longtime friend of DUKE. Duke is 6 years younger than Declan and was born when neither Lesnar nor McMahon was working for WWE. Luke is only 1,5 years older than Declan and the eldest son of Lesnar, so I think the friend of Declan must be LUKE (aka Brock Jr.).

I've changed it.

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Stop changing birth dates

Please stop editing the birthdates of celebrities. Dkingz (talk) 05:18, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Birthday

His real birthday is January 15, 1970. Dkingz (talk) 05:22, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

More citations needed

This page has a lot of missing citations, hence I tagged it. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 20:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

[Shane] McMahon is a fourth-generation wrestling promoter...

McMahon is a fourth-generation wrestling promoter...

How is he a 4th-generation wrestling promoter? Vince (his dad) and Vince's dad were into wrestling, but was Vince's grandfather also in wrestling business? That would make Shane involved in wrestling in the 4th generation. 2001:999:82:FF8:D417:E3E2:1FAD:7774 (talk) 22:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Jess McMahon --Khajidha (talk) 15:09, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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Fired for Royal Rumble 2022 booking

Please do not remove information about this, this is extremely WP:Notable and highly publicized, the most talked about matter in pro wrestling in 2022 and there are sufficient WP:PW/RS such as PWTORCH, 411MANI, CBS Sports, Sports Illustrated and every WP:PW member's favorite Dave Meltzer and his WON among other WP/PW:RS to back this up. Someone reverted the edits of three different users to cover this highly notable information and is attempting to provoke a WP:EW which I do not want to participate in. I request proper compliance with Wikipedia guidelines and to go for a proper consensus by seeking an WP:RfC. Best wishes. Dilbaggg (talk) 12:19, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Shane McMahon being "fired" was misleading and false reporting at the time. Those same outlets reporting on it are now essentially making a retraction, backtracking saying that he's now still employed because of new information that has came out. Please add that he was never fired in the first place, or that said reports of his "firing" were later contradicted.[1][2] Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 17:03, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Untrue reports of Shane McMahon's departure

These same sources tried to claim that Shane was relieved of duties last year. They aren't credible sources. Here's an article from The Sportster [3]. In the article, it says:

"Wrestling Inc. and Fightul are both reporting sources have noted Shane McMahon is that he is no longer involved with the company. There are, however, conflicting reports on this. Wrestling Inc. is reporting that he is no longer under contract even though WWE insists he is “still a WWE talent and under a deal.” Other reports suggest he is rarely, if ever seen at the WWE offices anymore."

This was obviously not true as he ended up returning to WWE TV at the 2022 Royal Rumble event. Days after, loads of sources again try to claim that Shane had been "let go" after a supposedly heavily criticised Rumble match that Shane was involved in the booking of. Great, so WWE would report he's left the company right? He's literally the chairman's (Vince McMahon) son and you don't think for a second that they wouldn't announce his departure? Someone makes a claim from an "inside source." Who's the source? Who's said what? Where's the evidence for the departure? Someone can create false information to create a story by claiming it's from an inside source. Who's verified it? Dave Meltzer? That's the example that people are giving? He's been publicly known for having a track record of being unreliable. Just because something is reported, doesn't make it automatically true. We should all know that if you claim something, you need to back it up with evidence. All these "reports" FAILED to do that. Mainstream outlets that are typically known as more reliable and credible, ate it up and ran with what they saw without trying to verify the story themselves.

Days after again, a tweet comes out of a New York businessman by the name of Marco Masotti, revealing he's doing a business deal with WWE and their representative is Shane McMahon meaning he NEVER departed the company.[4] People reported a false rumour as a fact and Wikipedia is doing just that also. These "journalists" couldn't admit that they lied and partially made a soft retraction based on something which was falsely reported in the first place just to try not to tarnish their credibility (if they even had any to begin with). I took issue with that, I cited WP:Rumour and the quotes from that article on Wikipedia guidelines.

"Articles that present original research in the form of extrapolation, speculation, and "future history" are inappropriate."

"Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors. Although Wikipedia includes up-to-date knowledge about newly revealed products, short articles that consist of only product announcement information and rumors are not appropriate."

We need to be rectifying the article based on it. WrestlingInc and Wrestling News are unreliable, but they still previously reported Shane McMahon being "fired" or "let go" as fact.[5][6] WWE or Shane McMahon himself never confirmed that Shane was let go. These independent sources that have been provided were running a narrative on a now disproved false story. I assume Inside the Ropes is (somewhat) more reliable? [7]. We should never be presenting rumours as facts and these "sources" should know that. Wikipedia should know that. Things like this are why people don't consider Wikipedia to be a reliable source of information either. The site's track record in pop culture is laughable. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 20:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Your whole argument is "sources are wrong". However, the unreliable sources you gave are just on assumptions based on a picture was posted, the definition of wp:rumor. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

About the no statemet, do you really expect WWE to say "Yeah, my son fucked it so much that we had to release him". WWE, as a public trade company, has his own interest, so that's why WP:INDEPENDENTSOURCES are needed. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

At least the unreliable sources I provided actually attached a tweet to hint that he's still with WWE. What about your unreliable sources? What is their evidence? People saying "insiders confirmed" with no evidence? Anyone could say "insiders confirm" and then say whatever they want, but because they say "insiders confirm" that means it's automatically true? Clearly, in Shane's case, this obviously wasn't true. This whole story was FALSELY reported last summer as a FACT instead of a RUMOUR. That was clearly false as Shane McMahon returned at the Royal Rumble just TWO WEEKS AGO. You expect them to run that same story again and expect it to be true when after the fact a businessman confirms he met with Shane McMahon as a WWE representative for a partnership? Could anyone else chime in please and let their thoughts be heard on this situation. Many thanks. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 22:13, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Dave Meltzer is a reliable source. Your only argument is "reliable source is wrong" while you trust unreliable sources that just made assumptions (without confirmations) based on a picture. Reliable source=he was released. Unreliable source=maybe he stills with WWE because there is a picture, but no confirmation, so it's a rumor. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

The initial reports are later contradicted, so we can't even officially say that he's been let go. So yes, it's still a rumour. I'm just going to tag @Czello: and @DasallmächtigeJ: and see what they think because they've been involved in adding and removing this information also, I'd love to hear what you two think. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 22:31, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

If you want to include shane, it's easy. A RELIABLE source confirming he is not released. Until now, you just gave unreliable sources making assumptions without confirmation. The problem is the mentality "No WWE confirmation, it's a rumor", so at the end,a rticles are just repetition of the info WWE wants to share, which violates WP:INDEPENDENTSOURCE. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

I watched Elimination Chamber on Saturday. A vignette about Taker literally featured him as a “WWE Superstar”, so I highly doubt he has been released. WWE, as a traded stock company, would also have to make statements about everything affecting stock, that’s why they report (almost) every released talent. With Shane that would certainly have to be the case… DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 13:04, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

@DasallmächtigeJ: Thanks for getting back to me regarding the topic. I completely agree with you on the fact it seems incredibly unlikely that he was released. I want the Shane McMahon article to not feel misleading and at the moment, it does. What do you reckon we should do? Mention that it was reported that he was initially believed to be released but this later was revealed to not be the case or not mention any of it at all and rather have a hidden note? I'm rather torn on what we should do about it and I'm unhappy and uncomfortable about Wikipedia currently reporting misleading information as fact. If you have any suggestions about this, then I'd fully appreciate that as we just can't leave this page in its current state. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 18:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

I‘d just stick to removing most of the speculation. Stating that his involvement in the match received a highly negative reception is absolutely factual and sufficient. Everything on top is just speculation and can be included once it turns out to be true. We all know 90% of wrestling rumors are completely unreliable, if we would include every rumor from the same sources about any other wrestler (let’s say Ziggler‘s contract rumors), Wikipedia would be full of misinformation. DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 19:23, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done The Shane McMahon article has now been taken care of. I'm glad we could resolve this issue. Many thanks. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 20:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm of the thought that yes, he is still with the company in some behind the scenes capacity outside of being a performer. However, you did NOT reach consensus. Consensus is not a simple wait and see if someone agrees with you and then change it as soon as they do situation. It's also not necessarily based on a majority vote. I suggest referring to WP:TALKDONTREVERT before going further with another revert. NJZombie (talk) 20:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

RfC on Shane's status with WWE

There have been two sections now discussing Shane's status in WWE and whether or not we should say he was fired after the 2022 Royal Rumble. These discussions do not appear to have reached a consensus nor a conclusion, and there seems to be a bit of a stalemate. As this is a WP:BLP I think we should formalise this discussion as an RfC and reach a definitive conclusion.

I haven't participated in the discussions above and am presently undecided on the matter, so the very neutral question is, what should we write regarding Shane McMahon's status with WWE?. — Czello 20:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

• I would phrase it that Shane has been removed as an on-screen performer and off-screen creative, but he may still be working for WWE in other capacities. Looking through the talk page, I am not convinced by the arguments made by Rockmusicfanatic20. It seems to be that HHH Pedrigree is correct to state that RMF20 is dismissing "Shane is Fired" sources as unreliable while citing "Shane is not fired" sources, which are basing their views entirely off twitter photographs, which is not very unreliable. That is quite the extrapolation. I think DasallmächtigeJ and NJZombie were also correct to point out that time will tell what the actual facts of the matter are, that it is correct to note the extremely negative reaction (externally and internally) to Shane's involvement in the rumble, and that RMF20 has not yet reached a consensus. I think Czello made a positive move by bringing things to an RFC as this can quickly bring this to more of a mutually agreed-upon wording.

I think at this point in time (Late February) it's hard to truly know what Shane's status is, but looking online through things like Google News, the majority of sources still seem to take the position that Shane was indeed "fired" (removed from creative, possibly also from on-screen) after the Rumble. This seemed to occur not simply because of the Rumble, but it was a "straw that broke the camel's back" moment, a cumulation of things. The sources suggesting that Shane has not been fired do not contradict the idea the idea that Shane has been removed from creative and possibly from on-screen, and merely suggests he remains on the payroll in a business capacity. There's a difference between being fired from your roles, and being fired from the company outright. I believe based on sources we can curently state the former, while the latter may still be contested. This information can of course be altered if more news comes out subsequently on this topic. CeltBrowne (talk) 21:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

• It looks like CBS stated that Shane McMahon was reportedly out of the company. They're a reliable source. We could say exactly that--"According to reports, McMahon was released from the company after the Royal Rumble." We don't need to say whether it is true or not at this point, just that it was reported. Time will tell, and we can edit from there. That's one of the joys of a digital encyclopedia. As for the sources that have been tagged as needing quotations, that seems to go against WP:AGF. If the sources are available through subscription, then we have to trust the editor who added them as sources unless there is a compelling reason not to. The evidence against the release (mentioned in other comments above) appears to be WP:SYNTHesis. That's my input: state the facts as they stand at this point (maintaining neutrality and not stating that anything is definite), adjust accordingly as more concrete details become available. This isn't worth fighting over. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:13, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

  @ GaryColemanFan Yes, CBS Sports did report the story and they’re considered reliable, however, it’s worth nothing that one of the sources they cite in the article is Ringside News which Wikipedia does NOT consider a reliable source. Just something to consider. NJZombie (talk) 06:54, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

  I would agree with Gary's proposal. WWE doesn't always make announcements for everything. They never announced Eva Marie or John Morrison signing with them and, recently (as far as I remember) they never announced NXT departures like Samoa Joe, William Regal, Brian Kendrick, Scotty 2 Hotty or Road Dogg (all of them backstage workers). Also, NJ, I saw that Ringside News was unreliable (that's why I talked about Meltzer), bu on the other side, I found a Tweet from Sean Ross Sapp account (a reliable source) saying that they trust them since their reports around McMahon are accurate. [8] --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:02, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

  CBS citing Ringside News lends an air of credibility to Ringside News. If, as they say on their website, they have been cited by USA Today, Fox Sports, and the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, they may have a good claim to reliability. There is an application process for writers, although I don't see much information about the qualifications of individual writers. All of that is probably a separate discussion, though. My proposal was to say that "According to reports, McMahon was released from the company after the Royal Rumble." The source of CBS's information doesn't seem to matter. It was reported by a reliable source (CBS), and we don't have to take a side--just report what has been said. GaryColemanFan (talk) 00:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)