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Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Level one user warnings

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Level one user warnings. (This invitation sent because you signed up as a member of WP:UWTEST) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

TKE

Resolved

 – moving since contributor don't read edit notices! mabdul 11:53, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Moved to WP:AFCHD

OS Run

I would like to thank everyone for your questions and comments. If appointed I will strive to do the best job possible for the community and the project I will also keep in mind that according to this log I will be the only non-admin in the group and the best I could hope for is to pave a strong smooth path for future non-admins, again I appreciate your interest, concerns and support. Mlpearc (powwow) 14:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Theirishwarden

Oh thanks for telling me that. Just gradually learning how to use wikipedia TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 19:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. mabdul 11:16, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Jordon (WMF)

Ehh, I think you got my name wrong on that thread. I was renamed. :) ⇒TAP 13:27, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I know, although I missed an n, it was my intension to use the old name: since then you have changed your behavior dramatical and the account rename was the next logical step. It is something: bad TAP (TomTom) and good TAP ("new account"). mabdul 13:34, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Yay! I'm more of 'good Sonnet 19, line 10', which explains my username. :) ⇒TAP 13:37, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Blocked indef by Ironholds, not WMF staff. ⇒TAP 13:45, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

'bad TAP' had 0 DYKs and 0 GAs. 'good TAP' has 10 DYKs and 6 GAs. What an improvement... ⇒TAP 10:39, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

(^.^) Can you count the quality of your stuff using hats and awards? I mean I have improved many articles (and I missed to count/list them somewhere) but many problems I have (for example) is that the rules of DYK are totally stupid: I have normally not the time to improve an article within 5 days or why exclude (software feature) lists?, etc. So not moving an article to GA/FA/DYK/ITN doesn't mean that you don't make good pages now. For me, some other metrics have proven as useful: when I expand an article, I normally try to improve related articles (leaving at least a link) and thus on the long scale(some months before vs. some month after) I can say that these pages got mostly doubled the page views! This works of course only for existing articles... mabdul 10:50, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I once remember that this user improved one of my articles (currently a GA) and the pageviews went up from 50-something to over 650! ⇒TAP 11:19, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Stalker. That is all. Teehee. Theopolisme TALK 01:12, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. mabdul 11:16, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Karten von Kananaskis

Moin! Die Karten sind fertig, siehe de:Wikipedia:Kartenwerkstatt#'Kananaskis bragg' auf en.wikibooks. Viele Grüße, NNW (talk) 19:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

New workshop

Hey there. Please take a look at this proposal to start a new workshop in the graphic lab. Please add your views on this. Roshan220195 (talk) 15:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Why do I get such an workshop invitation? I mean, I had only made one request there (maybe ages ago another request). mabdul 11:21, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Comments on n:MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-footer

Looking to implement your suggested changes, but that template/code is a little dense (or I am). Can you sandbox or sub-page the appropriate code and I'll implement it? --Brian McNeil /^talk 09:48, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Move These pages

I found Macromedia Authorware was moved by you but I request that Macromedia FreeHand and Macromedia JRun need to moved to adobe articles. Please move it and ColdFusion moved to Adobe ColdFusion. Thanks.--39.198.9.128 (talk) 13:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi RolandHelper,

please discuss this at WP:RM. I'm not that sure if that move should had happen, so I won't move the other pages. mabdul 11:06, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Grumble grumble

Schoolit avs5221^{(talk|contrib)} 16:54, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Heh, that was your own fault: do it correctly or let it. ^^ mabdul 10:56, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Garmin-Barracuda jersey.gif)

Resolved

 – Image was replaced with an up to date version. mabdul 10:54, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading File:Garmin-Barracuda jersey.gif. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Hazard-Bot (talk) 04:35, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

James Mylne (Artist) by Penwatchdog

James Mylne (artist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

hi Mabdul, long time no see! yesterday i moved a new article out of my sandbox, intending to take it "live," but shortly after doing so i realized i GOOFed it up! help!... when making the move, i directed it to "wikipedia" not realizing there was also an "article" option, which i now realize may've been the proper direction (seeing as my article isn't appearing when searched). it's disappeared! can you help find it or direct me how to do that? as written above, the article title is "James Mylne (artist)." Penwatchdog (talk) 09:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I took already care of it ~23h ago. ;-) mabdul 10:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

THANKS alot Mabdul! i just noticed your messages after replying to another... seems like all will be well as long as the-best-artist himself cooperates as i expect; i've been in touch with him directly, he's aware of the situation, and i've instructed him what Commons needs and how/where to send his permission slip. i've been really stressed with other personal matters. but youre an angel, THANKS! how can i help YOU?! Penwatchdog (talk) 12:49, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:redirect shortcut

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Redirect shortcut (edit | project page | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I think that Template:Redirect shortcut will be useful, because it will take less typing to create a redirect. If the submission is successful, maybe I could create redirects to the template so it would be much more easier to use. For example,
{{subst:ds|Foo}}
would probably take less work than
#REDIRECT [[Foo]] Koopatrev (talk) 12:54, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

But there is already a template ds, see: {{ds}}! So the template subst code is actually longer. mabdul 13:21, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

ok.. you win Koopatrev (talk) 15:08, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Frage

Ich grüss dich herzlich Mabdul!

Wir hatten uns auch schon im Chat unterhalten. Da ging es um folgenden Artikel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Zimmermann_(artist)

Den wollte kürzlich jemand zum Löschen vorschlagen. Das Problem wurde dann aber behoben. Jetzt hat jemand aus Toronto zwei Abschnitte einfach gelöscht mit der Begründung, dass es keine Originalrecherche sei. Wenn ich mir aber andere Artikel ansehe von Einzelpersonen, dann wurden dort auch Artikel vom beispielsweise Deutsch ins Englische übersetzt. Ich komme mir halt schon etwas blöde vor, weil diese Seite sehr gut übersetzt wurde von einem Kollegen und bis jetzt wurde dieser Artikel ja so akzeptiert. Hinzukommt, dass die Fussnoten alle genau auf den Inhalt des Textes referieren.

Ich kann hier leider nicht viel machen. Deshalb wollte ich dich fragen, ob du die zwei gelöschten Abschnitte wieder herstellen kannst?

Herzlicher Gruss aus der Schweiz :-)

Rabenbunt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabenbunt (talk • contribs) 17:41, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Also ich würde eine Diskussion auf der Diskussionsseite starten (auf englisch natürlich ;-) ) und den Benutzer ein "talkback" auf seiner Diskussionsseite hinterlegen (also auf User talk:Freshacconci folgenden code: {{talkback|Talk:Matthias Zimmermann (artist)|ts=~~~~}}). Gruß mabdul 11:22, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Admin backlogs

Regarding the admin backlogs comment at PERM/R, there are usually (in fact pretty much all the time) backlogs at RPP. You can sometimes wait a few days for CAT:CSD to be competely cleared (I've had a G3, wait there for more than a day). You can wait 6 hours (and sometimes a lot longer) for AIV to be completely cleared. The three primary admin areas (protection, deletion & blocks) are where the backlogs turn up. And I don't see (and quite rightly) non-admins being given user rights to work in these three places. Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 02:39, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

If I'm correct there wasn't any major change at CSD since 2005 (~7 years) and RPP is not really younger. If you reread the request, you will notice that we both were talking about new backlogs. Can you direct me to new ones? I know that we are heavily backlogged at all places, but new (admin) backlogs? Actually the group 'admins' have to do less work since more and more people doing NACs, getting more rights (ACC, edit notices, file mover, better tools, maybe an edit protected right next time, to name the big rights, but also move over rediect.) - The main problem is that the group of admins is actually shrinking although the admin actions are growing. mabdul 10:32, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I was referring to the increasing number of jobs being an increasing number of requests at the usual places (CSD, RPP, AIV, etc) not more new places for admins to do stuff. Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 11:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Are you really sure that there are increasing number of requests? Can you provide any stats for that? I mean that would be actually very interesting for some discussions like one of the last Signposts or WT:RFA discussions. (And I still doubt that there are more requests, except maybe UAA; always depends on the time frame; I assume something around ~2008) mabdul 12:05, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Photoshop Elements.png‎‎

Resolved

Hello, Mabdul

I see that you had nominated File:Photoshop Elements.png‎‎ for speedy deletion because it was orphaned. Well, I now used it in an article. I checked the policies around Wikipedia and its use seems to be okay. If I am mistaken, please feel free to drop me a note.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 16:34, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Totally OK; Problem solved. mabdul 11:22, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Idiot

Feel like giving the meat grinder another shot? Sure, it might be an idiotic thing to do, but it feels like it's probably been long enough that I think you should have a good chance now and as such I would be quasi-happy to renominate you if you are willing. Although if I'm the one being the idiot, just tell me, please. -— Isarra ༆ 13:10, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Heh... I might/will go there again, but as far as I know many contributors/!voters want a failed applicant to wait a minimum of 6 months. Since my application failed in beginning of April this year, I have to wait until October. Then I might contact you. ;-) mabdul 14:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh and by the way: there is still the 'forced adminship' ;-) mabdul 14:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I just couldn't help but notice this section while glancing at my own section right below it. If you really intend to run the gauntlet again let me know. I would be happy to write a co-nom for you as well. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 12:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, some of them said three months, but yeah, that does make sense. Feel free to pop by and poke when/if you're ready, aye. What is forced adminship? -— Isarra ༆ 22:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll nom you as well. Your work is very appreciated around Wikipedia! --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 22:06, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

AFCH suggestion - marking article as high quality for Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts

Hiyas there Mabdul,

Another suggestion right on your talk page rather then on the dev page (O well) for AFCH. I was thinking that it might be an idea to have an extra option in AFCH that allows one to mark a page as potentially high quality for Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts, just in case the creator abandons it. It would mean less sifting trough old stuff, and allow one to keep a backlog of promising pages. I was thinking about a template on the page, but it may be easier to let AFCH record it on some project subpage, just in case the editor replaces all the content in the article. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 19:40, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Interesting idea: I would like to see a discussion at WT:AFC and of the Abandoned Drafts projects page (on one page together!) on what basis an draft should be marked. As far as my reviewing standard is: if it includes three good sources: move it - so only drafts with unreliable and/or non-notable are left over. so which kind of drafts should be marked? The technical implementation is rather easy, independent of using a template, a cat, or a separated page like the /recent. mabdul 19:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll try to create a section on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation to discuss this this evening, and I'll transclude the section on the abandoned drafts talk page so that everyone can see and edit the same thing. A set of guidelines would be a good idea, to prevent clogging the process with useless article's (A few check boxes to mark common problems might be useful, since not every editor might like searching sources or Wikifying). Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 09:16, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Article about Radha Thomas

Wikipedia talk:Articles_for_creation/Radha_Thomas (edit | project page | history | links | watch | logs)

I am currently working on the Wiki page for Ms Radha Thomas. She is an Indian jazz singer and songwriter. In fact, she is known as a diva in the Indian jazz scene. She previously was with the band Human Bondage and has sung and performed globally. The article is still under development. I haven't completed it or submitted it for review yet. You can have a look at it at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Radha_Thomas. I will be requesting your help and advice (as usual) in making it conform to all Wiki standards. If you do a Google Search for Radha (https://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Radha+Thomas&oq=Radha+Thomas&gs_l=hp.3..0l2j0i30l2.1190.3159.0.3385.12.12.0.0.0.0.282.1949.0j11j1.12.0...0.0...1c.dYmnNUlMsQM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f6ee012440c72a74&biw=1024&bih=509) you will find dozens of articles and links to her work. As of now, the article is still under development and I will come bug you for help soon! Varunr (talk) 06:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I won't search, and neither should the reader have to search for the references. Please add them to your draft as described at WP:REFB.

Please remove the {{commonscat}} because at Wikimedia Commons is not such an category!

Please read WP:REFB, WP:42 and similar linked pages about the sourcing.

Please remove the 'Main article: List of Radha Thomas tours and concerts' and the 'See also'-section for now, since there isn't such an article!

Moreover you have to think about what you are writing. Whitney Houston or Radha Thomas? The 'Authority control' at the bottom is linked to Whiteney. So either remove it or correct it!

Regards, mabdul 15:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. I have made those changes. As mentioned, it's still under development. I haven't even submitted it to AFC yet. As I said, I will come back to bug you when it's ready for AFC. Thanks again for helping :-).Varunr (talk) 10:41, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Him

He's Indonesian, and doesn't understand enough English to know what we're talking about. I just block on sight and revert anything he adds to my talk page now - I think WP:DENY is the best way to deal with him. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not that sure if his/her Enlish is that bad. I'm trying to direct that user away from images and CBALL topics and then he might get very fast to a productive user! But at the moment you might been right: DFT! mabdul 15:29, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm very sure that anyone who thinks that this gibberish is a sentence definitely doesn't understand enough English to function on this wiki. →Σσς. 06:10, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

*Sigh*; yes, he is unwilling to listen... mabdul 08:23, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

AFCH

What would you think about adding one more tool to the AFC Helper Script. Have a checkmark when approving an article for if it is a biography and another checkmark for if it is a BLP. If it is a BLP it will automatically append {{WikiProject Biography}} with living=yes as a parameter, if it is not, it would append the WikiProject with living=no. In addition, the script could allow you to fill out {{Persondata}} and {{L}} with the needed information. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. I will add it in a few minutes to our development page. This should be achieved rather easy and helps to decrease (or better saying: not to increase) the backlogs even more. Thanks for the L-template, didn't know it! mabdul 14:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

The L template is the more difficult one I believe, it needs to be substituted; however, it's great because it should add two categories to every article. (Birth year and living or birth year and death year) I'm glad that it seems doable.. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:58, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

No the tool can do simply substituted it as normal templates. The work is the testing. ;-) mabdul 15:00, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

How do you imagine it would work? Would the script ask you to input a birth and death year and defaultsort or would it create the blank template in append to page and request that the submitter fills it out? Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

At the moment I thought of doing it that way:

Create another checkbox at the 'accept' menu, if it is a biography.

if checked, another checkbox will be visible: living person?

and new "textboxes" similar to the textbox of 'Move submission to:'.

So the design is rather "easy". The (substituted) templates will be added to the talkpage/article page after the cleanup. mabdul 15:51, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks so much. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

When will you finish coding the tool so it evaluates the submission by itself and chooses to accept or decline? Someguy1221 (talk) 06:03, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

As reported at WP:AFCH this is not possible at the moment, because I would exclude too many IE8 users. mabdul 07:23, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Visual Communicator 3.png and File:Authorware 7.2 icon.png

Insert these files that reverted by Boing! Said zebedee by undo it.--182.2.71.87 (talk) 03:15, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

These articles are Adobe Visual Communicator and Adobe Authorware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.2.71.87 (talk • contribs) 05:18, 20 July 2012

No! I said: stop creating new accounts, try to get unblocked with your original one, and especially stop uploading and changing images. Learn English and try what we are trying to tell you. At the moment you don't improve anything, moreover you doing more work for us and we haven't the time to improve Wikipedia! mabdul 08:22, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll will wait 1 year. And please note when i come here and unblocked,i'll becoming admin.I was said!--182.2.71.87 (talk) 09:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding K-Lite Codec Pack

Hello, Mabdul

I discovered that you made a couple of strange edits to K-Lite Codec Pack that broke the infobox versioning. So, please, before assuming that anything is wrong, verify the output to see whether it is actually wrong. (You had assumed that removal of |name parameter has broken the article whereas it did not.) Also, please preview your edits to see if they have desirable results. (They did not, in this case; the article displayed wrong version number.)

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 10:04, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Uhhhm, it is broken! Do and click on the 9.0.8 on the actual version! Then you will get to an nonexistent page, which is fixed by the name parameter! The version numbering in [1] is not broken, it simply displays another template; I would use the correct one if you show me it... mabdul 11:40, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi.

In all revisions of the article (yours and mine) clicking on "9.0.8" takes you to the wrong destination while clicking on [±] takes you to the right destination. This is obviously a problem with the underlying template.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 14:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I fixed the problem.... Regards, mabdul 15:25, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 15:35, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Microsoft Mobile Explorer

Hey Mabdul,i moved this page,User:Mabdul/Microsoft Mobile Explorer to Microsoft Mobile Explorer. I'm still blocked,tough! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clean Block (talk • contribs) 03:10, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't move usersubmissions by copy and paste! Moreover don't move pages which are obviously not ready! mabdul 18:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Helper Script

I do use the helper script for accepting. What gave you the impression that I was not using it; and why would it matter?... Txcrossbow (talk) 06:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

If you look at Vidyard, it shows that you just moved the article rather than using the accept button on the script. The biggest reason that you should use the script is because it adds the AFC wikiproject template to the talk page. It is also important because it allows you to add other wikiprojects to a page. Consider Nabil Salameh which should have {{WikiProject Biography}} at a minimum. This is especially important for BLP's. Mabdul is actually enhancing the way AFCH works for biographies, allowing you to fill in {{Pesondata}} and {{L}} which should appear on every Biography. On another note, it would be great if you could add categories to the articles you approve or add {{uncategorized}}. Every article on Wikipedia should be in at least one category. Thanks for you work and sorry I won't be able to follow up on this for a couple of hours. Ryan Vesey Review me!

File:Adobe Font Folio Logo.png

Resolved

Please insert it in adobe font folio.I was uploaded that logo.--114.79.57.39 (talk) 10:36, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

And I thought you stopped editing... mabdul 17:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

AFCH idea

I don't mean to burden you with another request for AFCH, so decline this if it's too much work or you just don't like it. I hate clicks. The fewer clicks to review a submission, the better. Do you think you could add a button to the interface to go to the next open submission in the category (or a random one?). Or instead, a checkbox that makes you autonavigate to another submission once the script is done running? This would save reviewers at least one, possibly two clicks, for every submission. Over time, that could mean over 100,000 clicks every year. At two accurate clicks per second, that is over 14 editor-hours per year that could be spent reviewing more submissions! Someguy1221 (talk) 19:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

To be clear: I won't! Open CAT:PEND and press CTRL (or Command if you are using a Mac) and click on a submission: it will be opened in a new tab (or window, depending on your configuration and browser) and after closing that tab/window you can restart at the pendings' list. mabdul 17:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Feature request for AFCH: watch settings

I set up my profile to add edited pages to my watchlist by default. Still I don't want to watch talk pages of people I merely leave notices to, so I would ask if adding a checkbox "Watch submitter's talk page" could be added to the gadget in order to help me avoid unwatching the user talk page manually. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 01:04, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Already mentioned at WP:AFCH/DEV. Please keep in mind: at the moment the watchlist changes depend on settings of your Special:Preferences. Regards, mabdul 08:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I failed to notice it. Instead there is the only discussion matching "watch" search: about watching WT pages instead of WP (technically impossible). My request is an ability to override preferences in watching "user:Example" and to leave alone "WT:AFC/Example Submission". — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 08:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

As I said: it is already requested and noted at WP:AFCH/DEV. Feel free to post there more ideas/improvements/bugs. mabdul 09:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I checked once again on WP:AFCH/DEV, and I still don't see it. All I see regarding watchlist is "U+WP instead of UT+WT", which is completely unrelated thing. Can you please point me at the discussion? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 10:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

It's called: "individual configurations/preferences". I added explicit now the part related to the watchlist, although that was already developed. (but didn't worked and thus had to get rolled back!) mabdul 10:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Editnotice

Resolved

 – done. mabdul 21:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, could you review this request for me? Cheers ~ benzband (talk) 15:10, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Resolved

 – Added to the beta script!. mabdul 20:09, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Mabdul. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation.
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Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 06:27, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Issue with AFCH

Resolved

I've done a bit more testing regarding the AfC/R multi-redirect submission bug and it doesn't just occur in my script, it occurs in the stable build and the gadget build. Could you do some more digging to see if a recent update broke AfC/R? See you soon, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 04:01, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Examples? Your last example worked with all version except your build. Please add the not working example at WP:AFC/R/sandbox. mabdul 10:06, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

You fixed this in beta, so you can go ahead and archive it. --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 23:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

What is a proper way to deal with self-promotional AFC submissions in sandboxes?

I've noticed quite a lot of them recently, and I am a bit puzzled: should I move them to AFC or just decline in place? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 22:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean: "User:Example/sandbox"? Move them to the WT:AFC space (see the link under reviewer tools) and give it a real name (see also an actual thread at WT:AFC); after that you can decline. And keep in mind: we don't expect GAs, we accept the article with the minimum standard. mabdul 17:56, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

OK. I thought it is impractical to move them (kinda per WP:SNOW). Note, that I'm speaking about the articles the users write about themselves, not simply promotional submissions. BTW, GA itself is quite basic standard, as it boils down to compliance with most general policies and guidelines; or in other words no severe violations of policies and guidelines. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 18:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Although GA is just 'follows all policies', these articles are consistent in dates, do not link years (e.g. 2009) and so forth, this is clearly not our (in sense of the AFC project) mission! We only want to create and move articles which follows the ground policies and which are (indeed) notable. As noted at WP:AFCH/DEV: I will create a possibility to move userspace drafts automatically (either to mainspace or to WT:AFC space) if they are still listed in userspace. mabdul 08:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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A. Wilford Brimley

Moved to Talk:Wilford Brimley

His first name is Anthony, not Allen. Requests to change it (including one from his wife) have been rejected, which is understandable, since she provided no source. It should at least be edited to A. instead of Allen, since there is no verifiable source for it as Allen. Look at his IMDB page. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000979/ It has it correct, as Anthony. 96.18.212.235 (talk) 04:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)aschiess

Beta Malfunctioning

Resolved

Please tell me how to delete the beta script from my profile.Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 21:28, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello

4shared (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello, I am in need of some assistance if you could please help me with the following matter that would be fantastic. As the situation arose that I had created a page for the company 4shared, and over night it has been deleted. And I had received the following message from Hairhorn stating:

"A tag has been placed on 4shared requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia, because it appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion process. If you can indicate how it is different from the previously posted material, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: Speedy delete contest button.svg which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's discussion directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please contact the administrator who deleted the page or use deletion review instead of recreating the page. Thank you. Hairhorn"

I would like to find a way, to get my page back and have it be of use on Wikipedia. As it is written above it states "because it appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion process. If you can indicate how it is different from the previously posted material, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this ect.." but the problem is that I do not know what the previous article has looked like and what material was presented, so would it be possible if I could some how take a look at the previous article? To give a proper reasoning on how the two articles are different and how I would like mine to still be available, if maybe you could assist me on this matter?

I am quit new to Wikipedia & I do not know how the functions work, and whom to contact. Thank you so much for your time, I appreciate it.

~~Youngblood20~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youngblood20 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 1 August 2012

Hi,

if you click on 4shared you will notice that this article was deleted multiple times (and one time after a 'longer' deletion discussion). At the moment I don't believe that the page is notable, but feel free to change my opinion! First please read WP:NWEB - our notability criteria for web pages, and if you still believe that it is notable, then start a new draft at WP:WIZARD (our article wizard). Don't forget to include third part, reliable and independent references to show that it is notable: that means: newspaper articles, magazone articles, books, etc. about that web page. (forums, facebook, most blogs, wikis, press releases are not suiteable to show notability!)

Here some other links you should crefully read: WP:CHEATSHEET, WP:REFB, WP:42 (and links on that page)!

You might also ask one of the deleting admins on their talkpages to 'userfy' one/the best submission for you.

Regards, mabdul 19:19, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for intervention, but this article has a long history of deletion of different incarnations; if you, Youngblood20, indeed want it there, please create a userspace draft and submit it for Articles for creation review, so that some prior validation happens before this article becomes free for speedy deletion once again. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 21:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, well thank you so much I will be sure to take a look at all of this criteria. But is there in any way that I can get the previous article, that was written about 4shared? So I can compare the two and write up a proper analysis and such. Or is that not necessary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youngblood20 (talk • contribs) 09:28, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

See WP:USERFY § Userfication of deleted content. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 09:55, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Mabdul. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Can you write an exception for this? Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 01:32, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Mabdul. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

– Connormah (talk) 22:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Summa Metaphysica

Hi Mabdul, was planning on deleting this and moving Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Summa Metaphysica (2) in it's place. What did you want to do instead? --  :- ) Don 16:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

So why not leaving then Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Summa Metaphysica (2) where it is? I don't understad the need of moving anything in this case! mabdul 18:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

You're right as always. I keep forgetting nothing on the Wiki ever goes away, do no difference. Sorry to bother. --  :- ) Don 19:21, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Wrong. TheIrishWarden tried to CDS'd the correct article. So there is a good reason to delete and move. I'm trying again to CSD the bad one. --  :- ) Don 15:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello Don and Mabdul :) "Summa Metaphsyica" and "God and Evil" are two separate articles. Summa Metaphysica is the series of the two-book volume "God and Evil" and "God and Good". I will submit another article titled "God and Good" after this. All 3 should be separated as the books are very different in many aspects. Please don't merge the articles into one article under just one book title because each book is important in its field. I'd like to be able to explain what each book is about and sometimes we conduct an event for each book. Please let me know what my next step is. Thank you for your time and effort into building the knowledge into this world. I appreciate it very much :) DavidBirnbaum (talk) 21:57, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Crown Prince Charles Lamar Wellesly

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Crown Prince Charles Lamar Wellesly (edit | project page | history | links | watch | logs)

I fixed some of the links... you had some refering to HRH Princess Eugenie of York... and I would not expect a Crown Prince to be in the LADIES Order! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raganbaby6 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Do any talkpagestalker want to help me and handle this? mabdul 18:17, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

It was a hoax; I've deleted it and warned the hoaxster. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:42, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

This one is also an hoax? mabdul 18:45, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Mabdul. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation.
Message added 05:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

—JmaJeremy•Ƭalk•Cont 05:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

AFCH stuff

Okay, I believe my latest patches won't cause an AfC apocalypse, so please go ahead and push them to beta. I'm switching to beta now to do the bio tests you requested. Sorry for the wait. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 23:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Too late. The AFCH apocalypse already occurred. The script update is now refusing to process any edits. I had DQ revert the patch and it is now working, but I'm not sure what broke the script. See WT:AFC for more info. --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 02:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Will check that week why and what broke. Moreover I found some more bugs in the biographical stuff... mabdul 21:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Cantabrian chamois article still pending to aprove images

Dear Mabdul, Could you, please, contact the administrators and tell them to approve all images of Cantabrian chamois article, we sent all licenses many months ago (February) and nothing has happened. Thanks for your time. Javier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Javierperezbarberia (talk • contribs) 20:15, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Javier,

I checked the "OTRS mails", but could only find the tickets to the images which still exists and not to any deleted images. Maybe I missed something, but did you send the mails for File:Rebeco-2a.png, File:Rebeco-1.png, File:Rebeco-2b.jpg, File:Rebeco-3a.jpg, File:Rebeco-6.JPG, File:Rebeco-7.JPG? And if you send them, for what I have to search (as I'm unable to find the mails, did you mentioned the filenames?)? mabdul 11:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Bot request

Coding... your archived request. Noom _talk ^stalk 11:31, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, great, please leave a link of the BFRA at related section at WT:AFC. mabdul 11:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Zai shui yi fang (1975 album)

How is it not that important? I have inserted reasons to contest deletion in the talk page. --George Ho (talk) 23:30, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Moved to User talk:mabdul/barnstars

Hey, thanks. mabdul 18:06, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

The Specs

The Specs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

you removed my edit to "the specs" page. please take the time to google "the specs." Some coverband from the 80's is trying to use wikipedia to capitalize off of the real band "the specs" who are a popular indi rock band. steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevetirozzi (talk • contribs) 13:47, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you read my edit summary? Please write the article first, moreover what is somebody doing in China who doesn't have access to Google? Please provide the direct source that they are "popular" (please read WP:V). mabdul 18:06, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

AFC Backlog

Articles for Creation urgently needs YOUR help! Articles for Creation is desperately short of reviewers! We are looking for urgent help, from experienced editors, in reviewing submissions in the pending submissions queue. Currently there are 1068 submissions waiting to be reviewed and many help requests at our Help Desk. Do you have what it takes? Are you familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines? Do you know what Wikipedia is and is not? Do you have a working knowledge of the Manual of Style, particularly article naming conventions? Are you autoconfirmed? Can you review submissions based on their individual merits? If the answer to these questions is yes, then please read the reviewing instructions and donate a little of your time to helping tackle the backlog. You might wish to add {{AFC status}} or {{AfC Defcon}} to your userpage, which will alert you to the number of open submissions. PS: we have a great AFC helper script at User:Timotheus Canens/afchelper4.js which helps in reviewing in just few edits easily! We would greatly appreciate your help. Currently, only a small handful of users are reviewing articles. Any help, even if it's just 2 or 3 reviews, it would be extremely beneficial. On behalf of the Articles for Creation project, TheSpecialUser TSU

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my RfA. I appreciate your interest in my candidacy and hope that the experience can help me to better myself as a Wikipedian.

By the way, at some point in the future, you should file another RfA yourself. I remember last time around, I'd supported (see #9) and was previously under the impression that you were already an administrator. I think the concerns raised in the oppose section had some validity, but were not so serious as to preclude the possibility of ever passing at any point in the future. I suspect that if you submit an additional RfA sometime later this year (for an arbitrary timeframe, let's say after September), you'd pass pretty easily.

Take care. =) Kurtis (talk) 14:45, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm rather confused that many RfAs fail in the last time (especially Mlpearc's) although some candidates (who fails/will likely fail) have in my eyes some good chances to get the support of the community, although they might lack experience (in some areas). I'm really sorry that I had to !oppose you, but there are some stoppers/nogos which can't let me support. I have no problem in supporting youth and faithful contributors as long as they can handle criticism correctly and change their behavior if they get feedback. As I said (wanted to say) in my !oppose at your RfA, I have no problem supporting you next time if you get some a bit more experience in some of the license and address most of the raised problems. The web/internet is full of copyright violations and especially the WMF projects have to deal with copyright material correctly otherwise 'somebody' go to the curt and the consequences of such movements might result in heavy problems for all Wikipedias and other WMF project. (maybe something like a closed (or not so free) system like Citizendium) mabdul 14:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response, I appreciate your sentiments and am glad you took the time to elaborate on your reasoning for opposing my RfA (although I already understood you quite well).

In your answer above, you mentioned that you have "no problem supporting youth" as long as they can "handle criticism correctly." Perhaps I'm reading too far into things, but do I give you the sense that I'm somewhat lacking in life experience or maturity, and did the manner in which I responsed to criticism at my RfA concern you somewhat? With regards to my first question, I can assure you for what it's worth that I am most definitely of the age of majority in my jurisdiction (not especially old, but certainly over the age of 18 - and that's the only hint I'm going to give you =P). That being said, I agree with you about supporting younger editors for adminship — in fact I've been intending to create a subpage about why Wikipedia should absolutely allow minors to edit. Whether it comes to fruition remains yet to be seen, but still.

In any case, take care, and good luck with whatever endeavours you pursue. =) Kurtis (talk) 15:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you read too far. ;-) I meant it more on a general basis and not directly in your case. I don't expect that an admin has already reached the age of majority as long as he acts responsible and with CLUE. I know that some candidates get many !oppose simply because they are too young - but on the other hand I know many persons in real life I don't want to give the responsibility (for example) for my dog just for one day although they are old enough, but simply because they are acting /stupid/ most times. We are all humans and do mistakes, but the behavior after such mistakes should be the scale. Edit counts don't count in a similar way to the count of days on earth! I have no problem in supporting a magic kid being 14y old and acting like a 30y old (wo)man.

The major problem in the community is that the bars have risen to a level which will create us many problems in next time. mabdul 15:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, OK. Thanks. =)

I agree with you 100% there. Adminship criteria are generally way too high, at least in my opinion. We need more admins, and lots of trustworthy candidates have been shot down over trivial details. But I respect those who disagree all the same. Kurtis (talk) 15:36, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrolling rights

Hello Mabdul.

I forgot to check my request for autopatrolling rights for a couple of weeks, and wondered what had happened with it. So I checked the history, and found this.

I just wanted to say that you're dead wrong. I couldn't care less about "hats". In fact, I don't even have a single one, as I am just a "PfC editor" (or possibly not even first class), and have no ambitions of ever being an admin or anything of that sort, as it just seems to be a lot of work. I don't even care about user boxes.

Fact is, that it seems you spent only seconds reviewing my request, as you just repeated the simple argument of having created "only 7 articles" (in the article space, that is). You seem not to have even noticed – as you're not mentioning it – my point that I've created somewhere around 550 to 700 templates and categories for the 2012 Summer Olympics only – all of which have had to pass through the patrol queue!

These templates and their categories - start here to learn more about them – are now in full use at the 2012 Olympics pages, and have saved hundreds, if not thousands, of edits. While doing that, it most certainly also saved hundreds (or more) of edit conflicts, along with saving thousands and thousands of kB on the wikipedia servers.

So I was just trying to relieve everyone from patrol work in the future, as there are more Olympics (Winter and Summer), Paralympics, Commonwealth Games and similar events to come, which can benefit from this concept. And I request you to believe that.

I couldn't care less about the autopatrolled rights now. In fact, I don't even want them anymore. That means that everyone will have to pore through the corresponding amount of templates and categories for future events, like the ones I mentioned above, when they are created. Serves you right. (And don't expect me to help out with any patrolling from now on.)

Cheers – and have a nice patrolling day.

HandsomeFella (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) - Please keep it civil and don't violate WP:NPA. --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 02:08, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

If that was intended for me, what's uncivil? HandsomeFella (talk) 07:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

You are flaming at mabdul for not recognizing your work. --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 16:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

If I'm flaming, it's for his "hat collection" rant, and for his sloppy work, as it appears he didn't even notice the work in other article spaces, which also pass thru the patrolling queue. The question was: what's uncivil? HandsomeFella (talk) 16:44, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

WP:STICK: let it both. I also didn't see it. @HandsomeFella: to answer your question: did you know that NPP only check articles and not Templates, Cats, Talk pages, etc? The new page patrollers don't even get the new articles checked within the maximum time of 30 days. The user right autopatrolled is only given out to users who create new articles én mass. Moreover: Next time check the archives of the denied requests to recognize that I'm right. mabdul 16:51, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the trouting. I just hate seeing NPA violations on people's talk pages. And yes, the only thing that feeds through NPP is mainspace pages. Sorry for the trouble, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 21:56, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

@Mabdul: I'm afraid the archives don't show anything about "hat collection". Anyway, I accept your apology.

@Nathan: You have still to specify which personal attack you're referring to. The closest thing to that in this case is Mabdul's hat collection rant. Criticizing his poor choice of words, an insult per se, is not a personal attack, it's ... criticism.

HandsomeFella (talk) 08:43, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

You know what hat collecting is, or? This userright doesn't help you doing anything, it only helps NPPlers, nobody else. The referring to the archives was related to the fact that only mainspace articles are relevant. mabdul 10:08, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I understand it perfectly, it's not exactly something that is hard to understand. I have also understood that it wouldn't help me doing anything at all, it would only help other editors by keeping the patrol queue down, as one can't patrol one's own created pages. In fact, the only one who doesn't understand here is you, as you still seem to believe, as it appears, that

• it was a case of "hat collecting",
• I have not understood what autopatrolling rights are.

In my first post above, I clearly explained that. The fact that you keep explaining something that doesn't need explaning (and never did) leads me to deduce that you have read my post above as sloppily as you did my autopatrol request.

HandsomeFella (talk) 11:01, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

speedy deletion of Adobe BrowserLab

Hi Mabdul,

You deleted the BrowserLab page that we created to describe an innovative and patented method to testing websites in browsers to accommodate users with handicaps such as diabetic retinopathy, glaucoma, color blindness. I know this because I created this software for 2 years out of my little office and then was lucky enough to sell it to Adobe. The software (it was called MeerMeer before Adobe bought it) was very innovative at the time (2007) because it created virtual machines remotely and destroyed them very quickly. I didn't get wealthy from this software. Please undelete this page or help me understand how I can undelete it. I appreciate your help.

TBillups — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbillups (talk • contribs) 22:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mabdul, our friend is a little confused--I deleted the page via PROD. I've restored it per his request. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:50, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

AFCH question

Can we collapse the box with the hidden text in it? If the entire article is commented out, then you could have a big, ugly, box of raw wikitext pop up. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 17:11, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Interestingly I don't have any box with raw text. Is it a bug? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 17:49, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

@czarkoff: go to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/sandbox and click on review to see an example. mabdul 18:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

@Nathan: why hiding the hidden text? I don't understand the need then for the checker... mabdul 18:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

All I get is:

Please check the source code! This page contains a really long HTML comment!

Which is what I get on any AFC page with long HTML comments. It was supposed to work another way? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 18:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Might be the beta script (don't ask me what I have pushed since the last update is ages ago):

Please check the source code! This page contains one or more long (30+ characters) HTML comment! (please report false positives)

The hidden text is: tesfgcvjasdiufhohbvuob uov odfv euvudf vd fv dfv dufvudf vjdflhkj-->

Reviewing Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/sandbox

That is the 'actual' msg in the beta script. mabdul 19:32, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I mean hide it in a collapsible box. You know:

Extended content
Hello!

--Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 02:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I know what you mean, but still I don't understand why. The script is displaying the code which is hidden, so why hide the code again behind any [show]/[hide] link? mabdul 21:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for such a long time between posts. What I meant was, while "tesfgcvjasdiufhohbvuob uov odfv euvudf vd fv dfv dufvudf vjdflhkj" is a manageable ammount of text but "Socks are clothing you place on your feet blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..." for several lines could be annoying. --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 21:52, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

But that is the point: the reviewer should get a notice that there is something wrong! mabdul 20:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Redirect types for AFCH

Hi mabdul, if you remember we were talking about a week ago about adding more redirect templates to the AFCH, would you please add {{R from acronym}} to the script (as initialisms and acronyms have seperate categories). Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for doing this again, but would you be able to add {{R from other capitalisation}} to the list as well. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:26, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, will do. Hopefully I get the stuff published in that week. mabdul 21:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done in my local beta script which is getting more and more stable to get fully pushed! mabdul 20:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Code merging

Could I get my code merged into the beta script so I can debug easier? I asked you a while back, but I believe it got forgotten in the barrage of AFCH related requests recently... Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 21:54, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

will do in some hours (if i find the time). mabdul 10:09, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I have an urging to code, which means I'm going to attempt to try to do this myself and merge the completed source code to User:Nathan2055/afc_betaoverwrite.js. I'll reply when I've got that done. --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 22:16, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

 Ta da! That was impossible, I can't wait to have something like git in place in the future. Anyway, please merge when you have the time. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 01:32, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Wikipedia:Articles for creation/ECDL Foundation 2

Hello Mabdul. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Wikipedia:Articles for creation/ECDL Foundation 2, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: R3 can no longer be used for redirects created as the result of a page move - the criterion changed back in May. Thank you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 22:14, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Mmmh, didn't know that... I blame the Signpost not informing me. ^^ mabdul 20:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

European University Sports Association

Hi, I have removed the CSD tag that you added from European University Sports Association as I don't believe it comes anywhere near A7. Feel free to list it for deletion discussion if you still believe it should be deleted. KTC (talk) 00:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

... because of? Sry, but only because it is a head organisation for multiple sport organisations doesn't sound for me in any kind of notable. mabdul 20:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #20

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Development
  • Pywikidata, developed by Joan Creus, was released \o/
  • Updated demo system
  • The repository part of the demo system had — believe it or not — too many entries from user and bot activity, apparently making it difficult to find a page to create. We truncated and filled it with about 100 chemical elements again
  • Started to implement new layout: this includes restructuring DOM and introducing an action column
  • Started refactoring of selenium tests layout
  • Finished most of the core of the phase 2 data model implementation
  • Created abstract storage interface for the repository
  • Started generalizing the secondary storage to work for all types of entities
  • Picked up work on the ContentHandler again, addressing concerns voiced by WMF staff and tying up loose ends
  • Started work on edit collision detection, will be changed as we observed unexpected side effects
  • The new API module for linking titles is live
  • Launched a demo client site in Hebrew
  • Various internationalization improvements and fixes
  • Revising the Special:ItemByTitle page on the repository
  • Special:ItemByLabel will become Special:ItemDisambiguation
• Discussions/Press
  • Collecting ideas about how to prevent unwanted edits
  • Video of the Wikidata panel at Wikimania has been published (the talks will hopefully follow soon)
  • https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/New_sites_system
• Events
  • Campus Party
  • upcoming: FrOSCon
  • upcoming: WikiCon
  • announced next office hours (5th and 6th of Sept.)
  • still looking for support for our SxSW panel
• Open Tasks for You
  • for possible coding tasks check this
  • check the needs-input box here and see where you can give feedback

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Wikidata weekly summary #21

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Development
  • Worked on version 2 of generic site handling in MediaWiki incorporating feedback from wikitech and mediawiki.org, as well as updating the WIkibase code to match
  • Rewrote SQLStore to accommodate phase 2 and phase 3 of Wikidata
  • Added maintenance script for rebuilding the store data
  • Implemented action column in user interface. All buttons for user-interaction are now aligned on the right side (for ltr-languages).
  • The language-code is now shown in a separate column in the site-links table
  • Started implementing sorting for site-link table columns
  • Lots of cleanup in JavaScript code
  • Edit conflict detection in a simple form is in place
  • Some minor changes to the API to support conflict detection, mostly “lastrevid” and “baserevid”
  • The configurable URL argument “usekeys” was removed. (Please check if your bots are still working.)
  • The special page “ItemByLabel” is about to be revitalized as a full “ItemDisambiguation” page
• Discussions/Press
  • Discussion about unwanted edits
• Events
  • Campus Party (video)
  • FrOSCon
  • right now: WikiCon
  • upcoming: State of the Map
  • upcoming: office hours on IRC
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Please vote for our SXSW panel. Voting ends today.
• Open Tasks for You
  • for possible coding tasks check this
  • check the needs-input box here and see where you can give feedback

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WP:FFU

Hi Mabdul. Did you ever hear anything back about uploading the video server-side at WP:FFU#Barack Obama and Google+? —JmaJeremy✆✎ 19:03, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Sry, that is my fault (more or less): I asked multiple users to try to upload that file and to fill the bug report (feel free to do it, otherwise leave it open and I will do it in a week) because I'm not able to do that at the moment. mabdul 19:50, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

AFCH v. Twinkle

Hello! Out of plain interest: did you consider making AFCH a Twinkle module? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 22:45, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

(at work) Not at the moment. I'm still learning JS and thus my skills are simply not good enough to add a hack. If I'm more familiar with the whole stuff (and finished the clean up work) I might reconsider to do this. But I doubt at the moment that this would be a good move: the AFC tool is only useful for people doing reviews in afc/userspace and TW is used by maaany persons doing NPP work, SPI stuff, article tagging and so on. The overlap of the "average" wikipedia contributor is not big enough to justify to "send the whole AFCH code" to every TW user. I might be wrong (because of the modules) and my to do list too long before I consider to proposing such a merge (say: not within a year until I might have "cleared" the list).

to my talkpagestalkers (and nathan): Although I don't have regular net access, I'm still developing in my spare time on my local machine. sadly I'm not really able to test the script, but the development is still ongoing, although rather slow... mabdul 12:20, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Just for the record: Twinkle is modular, so one may enable Twinkle and AFCH (which may remain external module, out of Twinkle's code base) and disable everything else if desired so. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 12:49, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

I know, but as I said: I would love to do it, if we have a wide consensus with the AFC team, an "OK" of the TW devs and when/if my skills are better. I'm using this project only for learning and for fun. I got two good books of my university's library, but I simply have not enough time to read/learn it (house moving because of new job). mabdul 14:43, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) - I was going to respond to this last night but I had spent almost two hours finishing the release candidate... Anyway, any such a thing would require full consensus at WT:AFC, approval by the Twinkle team, plus we would have to have someone from Twinkle to help port the code (plus we want to empty the bug list first). As mabdul said, at least a year. I've found a great looking JavaScript course so I will take more time developing soon. @mabdul: I'm getting ready to create a public release candidate and move this update into ancient history. As stated above, I have merged all code from beta and my alpha into it. If there is anything from your alpha you want me to port, drop me a line and I'll work on it. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 20:05, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

I still want to draft a Twinkle rendition of the script. Where can I find the source code for AFCH? Is there a publicly-readable repository anywhere? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 10:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Of course! The current live build (v4.1.15) is available at MediaWiki:Gadget-afchelper.js. As well, the latest beta build (v4.1.16rc1) is available at User:Nathan2055/afc releasecandidate.js. It's currently licensed under the Wikimedia Terms of Use, but we are working on a move to the GPL. Either way, feel free to hack on to it! --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 20:12, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I hope I'll ultimately have some spare time to accomplish this... — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 01:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Cool! Good luck! --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 19:18, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #22

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Development
  • Anja Jentzsch joins the team
  • Worked on sorting for site-links table on item pages; enhanced some code in MediaWiki core for that
  • Fixed issue with aliases breaking grid layout of item pages
  • Worked on fixing issues for right-to-left languages in site-links user interface
  • Worked on new SpecialPage to create new items
  • Two new fancy Special pages appeared: ItemDisambiguation (lets you search for all items that have a given label or alias) and ItemByTitle (gives you the ID of the item that is connected to a given Wikipedia page)
  • Gave an introduction on Selenium testing to the team
  • Added Selenium tests for undelete & conflicts on undeletion
  • Added Selenium HowTo to meta wiki
  • Part of the team participated in the bug-triage on Wednesday
  • Final preparations to move site code into MediaWiki core
  • Preliminary work on data value implementations
  • Additional work on edit conflicts and permissions
  • Updates to the input json form to wbsetitem
  • Fixing some issues with failing site-links
  • More than 50 aliases in one language for an item should now work (previously more than 50 failed in an ugly way due to an API limit)
  • Updated demo repo and client
• Discussions/Press
  • Wikidata and ISO standards
• Events
  • WikiCon
  • office hours (de en)
  • ongoing: State of the Map
  • upcoming: Health 2.0 Berlin meetup
  • upcoming: Software Freedom Day Hamburg
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • We have a list of Wikidata team members on Twitter if you want to follow them
• Open Tasks for You
  • Test the demo system
  • Hack on one of these
  • (Ping Lydia if you’re looking for something else.)

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Will you please help me with this article?

Hi Mabdul, I have created an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mulayrahul/sandbox. Will you pls take a look and let me know if this is okay? Thx RM (talk) 17:13, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Looks like it has acquired good sourcing. Definitively recommend for launching. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 23:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Houston (or Berlin in this case) we have a problem.

Resolved

A recent update to jQuery has altered jsMsg functionality, making the script distorted (see File:AFCH+MW=bad.PNG for an example). I am putting in the extra hours to try to get this working again, but it could delay the update for another week or more. As well, K7L (talk · contribs) has joined the project and has reported half a dozen script bugs in three days. I'll post them along with an updated changelog on the dev sheet. Finally, I am posting a section on WT:AFC about why the update is delayed as well as the bug fixes in it. I'll keep you posted, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 00:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

It is already fixed by Timotheus Cananes, check the gadget code (the last update/diff). mabdul 14:59, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

._. Why doesn't anybody tell me these things? I'll see if I can find the time to write a patch to the release candidate today. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 15:39, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Article about Radha Thomas

Hi. I think I have completed the article and am contemplating it to move it to the AFC space. Before that, I'd really appreciate if you could have a look and give me some inputs, suggestions and advice and hopefully a green signal :-). Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Radha_Thomas Varunr (talk) 08:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #22

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Development
  • Made new CreateItem special-page (also working JavaScript-less)
  • Special:ItemDisambiguation got lots of love and awesome autocompletion
  • Special:ItemByTitle also got lots of love and awesome autocompletion
  • The client-wiki now gets notified if a connecting Sitelink gets removed
  • Wrote Selenium tests for client-code
  • Editing/adding site-links will display a proper link to the page again
  • Removed auto-expansion for description/label input fields
  • Tested setting Mediawiki to use HTML5 to make sure it works as it should
  • Finished up work on new sites functionality in Wikibase and moved it as a patch to core (which is still awaiting review)
  • Worked on ValueHandler extension which will be used for our data values
  • Added “Type” entity type, plus skeletons for its associated Content, ContentHandler, ViewAction, EditAction and UndoAction
  • Implemented safeguards against text-level editing of data pages
  • Allow Sitelinks to Wikipedia only (fixed regression)
  • Wrote permission checks and edit conflict detection for ApiSetItem, undo/restore, etc.
  • Fixed display of deleted revisions of data items
  • Added --verbose option to pollForChanges maintenance script to show change summary
  • Bug fixes and improvements for right-to-left languages
  • Updated demo system
  • The long format (more like the json output format) for wbsetitem API module is now alive
• Discussions/Press
  • Sent note about Wikidata to all Wikimedia projects via Global Message Delivery - generated quite some feedback on Meta
  • Started page to coordinate discussions about bots around Wikidata
• Events
  • State of the Map
  • Health 2.0 Berlin meetup
  • upcoming: Software Freedom Day
• Open Tasks for You
  • New stuff to hack on

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Help!

Mabdul, I've had some computer issues and won't be able to code for a while. I have information on how to fix the comment bug here but I can't implement it. That along with the other bugs I've listed on the dev sheet need to be implemnted in the next release candidate. When you're done with that, have someone push over my old RC so K7L and the gang can test it. Thanks! --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 18:22, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Everything is back in working order, so I'll take over from here. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 03:11, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

AFCH bug

I left a note for Timotheus about it here, if you could look into it that would be appreciated. Thanks, LegoK^ontribsT^alkM 21:19, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #24

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Development
  • Met with a group of database experts from different projects to get input for phase 2 of Wikidata
  • Updated demo system (the corresponding git tag is c2425396f765ee77c990fd4b235c3d8d9f569018)
  • Selenium Tests for Edit Conflicts
  • Bugfix for weird behaviour of NOEXTERNALINTERLANG magic word
  • Bugfix for updating language links on client (they were not updated when the connecting link got removed or changed)
  • Windows support for pollForChanges-Script
  • New special page Special:CreateProperty for creating property entities
  • Property entities can be displayed now, editing them does not yet work
  • The API is generalized to handle additional entities
  • Created initial DataType implementation
  • Created store for the client
  • Improved and extended store for the repository
  • Started on initial DataValue implementation
  • Wrote tests for client
  • Fixed localization bugs
  • Special:ItemDisambiguation page now automatically populates the language field
  • Created a central place for associating entity content models with namespaces
  • Created functions for checking whether a given namespace is an entity namespace and whether a given content model is an entity model
  • Worked to make Items work in the main namespace, removed assumptions about the content model of the main namespace in several places
• Discussions/Press
  • Several questions/suggestions on m:Talk:Wikidata after last week’s message about Wikidata to all Wikimedia projects
  • More additions to m:Wikidata/Preventing unwanted edits, m:Wikidata/Notes/Future and m:Wikidata/Data collaborators
  • Deployment/code review discussions with the Foundation
• Events
  • Software Freedom Day
  • upcoming: Leipziger Semantic Web Tag / MLODE
  • upcoming: Datengarten
• Open Tasks for You
  • m:Wikidata/Bots is waiting for participation
  • Hack on all the tasks and bugs

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Bots/Requests for approval/NoomBot 8

Hi mabdul, just letting you know I'm going to continue to work on the AfC bot. I'm also interested in taking over some of the other bot tasks which are inactive once I've finished task 8. Thanks, Noom (t) 17:53, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) - Great, another person to compete with NathanBot (talk · contribs) for AfC tasks. :P Anyway, there are several things we need bots for, as well as several tasks which should be updated. I'll try and compile a list and post it on the AfC talk page. --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 20:16, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

The (incomplete?) list was created a few months ago at Wikipedia:WPAFC#Bots. mabdul 06:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

There's also a list on the participants page, but it's fairly old. I'll try to update if I find some time (still have half a dozen bugs to fix before the next rc). Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 19:17, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #25

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Development
  • Updated demo system
  • Added per-language uniqueness restriction for property labels (You can only have one property with a given name in a language. For items this applies for the combination of label and description.)
  • Tests for noexternallanglinks, CreateProperty, PropertyView
  • Finished base of DataTypes and DataValues extensions
  • Added resource module for loading site information
  • Improved change handling on the client, including when items are deleted and inserting changes that affect the client wiki in the client’s recent changes (still rough)
  • New "List all datatypes" Special page
  • Finished property view. Property entities can be edited now
  • Changes to some of the containing structures in the API, items to entities and item to entity
  • Change to token handling (gettoken has died in flames, use edit token from action=tokens instead)
  • Some cleanup for the security audit
  • Worked on encapsulating auto completion widget from EditableValue.autocompleteInterface
  • Started work on supporting access to remote wikis via the ORMTable class
  • Discussion and fixes regarding transaction logic in core
  • Made a git branch for the first deployment that is currently being reviewed by WMF (current review status)
  • Test coverage for Wikibase and its extensions is now recorded and visible online
• Discussions/Press
  • JSON for phase 2
  • Concept for entity selection widget
• Events
  • Leipziger Semantic Web Tage/MLODE
  • Datengarten
  • upcoming: Wikipedia Stammtisch Berlin
  • upcoming: Berlin Open Source Meetup
  • upcoming: Data Days
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • If you are doing a Wikidata intro or something like that at an event we can send you some swag like stickers and flyers. Let me know well in advance please so it reaches you in time.
  • We have a shiny new contribute page
• Open Tasks for You
  • Help update the press page
  • Pick one of the open coding tasks

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How are you doing?

I know you have been very busy, but I need a seriously large flyswatter to squash the bugs in the release candidate. Can you give me a hand in the near future? --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 00:03, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, my old flat is cleared and the new one is so "finished" that I can spend more time for "me". I guess that I'm ready mid this week to do active programming on AFCH. Maybe I'm online in the chat this evening (Europe timezone ;-) ) to get a brief update by someone involved. mabdul 14:51, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Great news! I was about to go bonkers trying to bug fix everything myself. I was getting ready to just start striking updates back to stable to get it, er, stable. I'll fill you in tonight. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 19:10, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

I didn't see you on IRC a few nights back, everything OK? --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 19:13, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Account creation

Hey, you asked on Meta for an update if we ever moved forward on tests regarding account creation. See [2] for an update. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 22:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. My respond related to the new design will be posted at the VPT. mabdul 06:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #26

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Development
  • Added various new DataValue classes
  • Worked on ‘edit’ buttons for non-JavaScript version of entity views
  • Worked on resourceloader module for sites
  • Tests for PropertyView and CreateProperty
  • Tests for Uniqueness of Properties & Items
  • Tests for propagation of Item deletion/undeletion to client wiki
  • Tests for change propagation to Watchlists on client wiki
  • HTML validation results for Wikibase are now online
  • Special:CreateProperty is renamed to Special:NewProperty, to avoid naming conflicts in translatewiki with other extensions
  • Work on scripts for rebuilding and resetting data stores in the client
  • The client now handles when an item gets deleted on the repository
  • Wrote fixes for security concerns raised during review by WMF
  • Working on Wikidata branch in preparation of merging it into core/master soon.
• Discussions/Press
  • comparison articles
  • expiration dates for data
• Events
  • Wikipedia Stammtisch Berlin
  • Open Source Meetup Berlin
  • Data Days
  • upcoming: KESW (keynote by Markus Krötzsch)
  • upcoming: Wikimedia CEE meeting
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • First 6 months of Wikidata are over!
  • Great pictures and videos taken at the MediaWiki Hackathon in Berlin earlier this year
  • You can follow all Wikidata bug reports by subscribing to the Wikidata bugs mailinglist
• Open Tasks for You
  • Hack on one of these
  • Test some of the less common things you do on Wikipedia on the test repository and report bugs if you find anything that’s not working as it should

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ec

We must have saved at near the same time. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 23:20, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Strange, without any notice?!? Really crazy. I will update the counter ;-) mabdul 23:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

You can revert me. I don't like such a harsh outcome, and just wanted to offer a breath mint. (The editor seems buggy lately, of course). Kiefer.Wolfowitz 23:34, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

AFC helper script

Hi. Haven't seen you on IRC for a while--I hope you're doing alright. Anyway, the AFC helper script doesn't seem to add a space between the comment and the automatically appended signature when you use it to add a comment. Could you please fix that? Thanks. wctaiwan (talk) 05:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) - Both me and mabdul have been very busy IRL, but we've fixed that in the next update. Thanks, Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 14:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

:P

Thanx, We do now [3]. Mlpearc (powwow) 23:31, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Wikidata weekly summary #27

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Development
  • Wikidata branch was merged \o/ (about 10.000 lines of code) This also means that MediaWiki now has shiny new ContentHandler features to enable storing data and other content types
  • Updated demo system
  • Fixed MediaWiki core bugs and responded to feedback about the ContentHandler
  • Looked into Solr
  • Added statement interface for items
  • Added claim interface for entities
  • Added IRIValue and GeoCoordinateValue
  • Added GeoCoordinate parser
  • Added base for the ValueFormatters extension
  • Initial work on create claim API module
  • Initial work on better API transformation handling of the data model components
  • Made the API aware that entities, not items are the thingies we really want to get
  • Finished implementation of non-JavaScript edit buttons
  • Switched local integration server to use core master branch
  • Improved how recent changes from the repository are displayed in the client
  • Worked on tests for recent changes on the client
  • Added Wikipedia-compatible URL rewrites for subdomains en, de, hu and he (en.wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Helium leads to the item)
• Discussions/Press
  • Discussion on Hebrew Wikipedia about being deployment target number 2
  • Written a blog post looking back at August and September
• Events
  • KESW
  • upcoming: Wikimedia CEE meeting
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • We’ve started a page to design the Main Page of Wikidata
• Open Tasks for You
  • Hack on one of these
  • Design the Main Page of Wikidata

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WikiProject Podcasting active members

Hey Mabdul I'm currently doing some spring cleaning with WikiProject Podcasting and saw that you put yourself on the list as an active Wikiproject member last year. I've updated the member list for this Wikiproject, so if you're still editing podcast articles please feel free to add yourself on to this year's member list. Cheers and happy podcasting. --Breno ^talk 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I won't add me again, I have no faith to get every year such an message although I'm still active at enwp. My rationale the last two times are still existent: the techniques are very interesting! Crazy projects... mabdul 14:21, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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PERM

Please remember to use the nao template. We don't want the newbies to get the wrong impression ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:44, 14 October 2012 (UTC)