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Congratulations!

Here's your shirt

On your election as a new admin! Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks for proving that the new Admin elections process works! Enjoy the shirt. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the shirt. I take a medium.

  I'm shocked at how few people passed the 70% support level. There's a number of those who didn't pass who would make fine admins, in my opinion. Be interested in some retrospective analysis of this new process. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 21:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

  congrats! Yeah, the outcome was kind of unexpected, but I'm just glad that my vote didn't go to waste with you. —usernamekiran (talk) 22:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Belated congratulations from me, but speaking of this, it's great having my revdel requests be handled so quickly. Thanks for jumping right in! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:36, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! That was my primary goal in becoming an admin, improving responsiveness. I wish all the copyright revdels were so easy. I just punted one revdel request as being way beyond my paygrade: Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems#Ruben_I_complex_copyvio_case.

And thanks for the thanks on the edit. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 21:42, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

• Congrats! Andre🚐 22:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

New Admin Bâtonnets

I may not be able to offer you the baton, but I hope you can savour these bâtonnets as you study all the new admin buttons! Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

A baton for you!

	The new admin baton
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Congrats on the adminship.

Keep playing with the shinny new buttons. Wikibear47 (talk) 18:57, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

"He who does not keep peace shall lose his hand."

	The axe of responsibility
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What was the content?

Rsjaffe talk contribs deleted page Improbable Fables, or a Jorney to the Center of the Earth

Please in the future don't do such single-handed deletions without notifying the page editors. It was wikilinked, hence there was some purpose. A typo in the title must be handled more cleverly. People make typos all the time.

Now, what was the content of the page ? --Altenmann >talk 01:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I deleted Improbable Fables, or a Jorney to the Center of the Earth, which was not an article, rather a redirect to Improbable Fables, or a Journey to the Center of the Earth at the request of the person who originally made the misspelling. The redirect occurred because the author originally misspelled the title, then moved it to the correct title, but left behind an implausible misspelled redirect that should be deleted.

I didn't delete any content. I should, however, have fixed the spelling on any incoming links to point to the correct one. Was this an incoming link? — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

When you are deleting a page, you have to fix the links that you have broken. It is good that only one page was affected. But what if you delete a page that links to a dozen of other ones? Now can people possibly know what was correct title? They will probably get rid of the redlink and the information is lost. --Altenmann >talk 01:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hi

Just to let you know a user that you blocked is continuing to abuse their own talk page so you might want to remove that from them.

Thanks - TLJ7863 (talk) 08:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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Jay Hopson

Sophie1043 has reintroduced the copyright violation on Jay Hopson. They seem to be a single-purpose account; there's an entirely separate issue with them edit-warring to reinsert non-neutral language and they're never used a talk page. I'm involved or I'd consider a block. Mackensen (talk) 02:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Blocked and rev-del'd. I also think there's some competence issue as they keep on reintroducing the old rev-del request template in their edits. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. It's not the last college football coach article that I'd expect that kind of behavior, but pretty close. Mackensen (talk) 03:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
		Thank you for going through my revdel requests of copyvios. Your help is greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work! MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Your deletion of Talk:Hyperbole/Archives/2013

I simply wanted to let you know that Talk:Hyperbole/Archives/2013 is the 2013 archive for the talk page of Hyperbole, as opposed to the talk page for the deleted Hyperbole/Archives/2013. I ask that you undelete it. JJP_Master (she/they) 03:32, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I’ve undeleted it. I’m trying to track down who requested deletion so they know, too, but am currently unable to do so. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 05:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it was deleted automatically when you deleted Hyperbole/Archives/2013 with Twinkle. I was the one who {{db-error}} tagged that page, but you G7'd it, meaning that it presumably was blanked by its author first. JJP_Master (she/they) 10:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Block notice removed

Hi! I noticed that a recently blocked user removed their notice, is that allowed whilst it's still active? I've seen it once or twice before and thought that was a no-no? Blue-Sonnet (talk) 09:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@Blue-Sonnet (talk page watcher) (Non-administrator comment) I also thought that was a "no-no." However, I can't seem to find the policy to back that up. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:56, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

You can't remove declined block appeals, but you can remove block notices. Wikipedia:User pages#Removal of comments, notices, and warnings — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the clarification. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 20:05, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification also, I shall endeavour to never get blocked and have the opportunity to put that into practice! Blue-Sonnet (talk) 04:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, you declined my Wikipedia Article. Please help

I think you declined my article, I just wanted to know why?

I'm doing this article as a part of my task from my employer. It's totally a work not just a paid-to-create article.

Please help me out.

This is my Article. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ruelsky311/sandbox/Justin_C_McMillion

Hoping for a positive response. God bless. Ruelsky311 (talk) 05:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ruelsky311 (talk page watcher) I just looked at the page history of the draft, and it looks like Rsjaffe just moved the draft from your userpage to a sandbox. There was no decline involved.

I realize that you probably weren't specifically hired to write this article. However, according to the term of use of Wikipedia, you are still what's called a 'paid editor,' and need to disclose that on your user page. You can read more here, here, and here. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 06:19, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, will my draft be flagged? do you think it will be approved to be posted here on wikipedia? Ruelsky311 (talk) 12:20, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Ruelsky311 Your draft might be flagged with {{COI}}, yes. You did declare a conflict of interest when initiating the conversation. Not sure if or when the draft will be posted. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of ballinagar gaa

you deleted my page Ballinagar Gaa could you undelete the page or give me access to view a copy of the deleted page so i can see what the issues were that caused it to be deleted Budisgood (talk) 20:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

It was a copyright violation of https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/local-news/953729/the-man-behind-the-wire-ballinagar-s-magical-year-an-inspiration-to-all-small-clubs-in-offaly.html , where there wasn't sufficient text left after removing the violation for there to be a viable page. Your edits at the beginning were copies of the article in this link. I can provide you a fragment that doesn't have copyvio issues. I have moved it to Draft:Ballinagar_GAA. Do not copy text when writing an article. See the information on copyright that was left on your page. If you have more questions, feel free to ask me or others on Wikipedia. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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User_talk:2603:6000:D2F0:3680:30CD:A07C:D1EF:3725

Please block this ip asap, as this ip is now making personal attacks on his talk page. Untamed1910 (talk) 03:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

CSD G3

Hi Rsjeffe, I don't see how User:Sydney ham/sandbox falls under G3. It was very clearly a test page, and at a sandbox, where new users are expected to create test pages. CMD (talk) 05:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Because it was submitted for review under articles for creation. Submitting a nonsense article was the problem. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 05:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Testing the AfC system is not vandalism. Expecting a new user to understand that experimenting in their sandbox is not okay in specific cases is a very high bar, and that bar is still not WP:VANDALISM. CMD (talk) 05:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I see your point that it was user experimenting. I’ll put it back but remove the article submission header. Thanks. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 05:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

And I have applied for AfC, to maybe help chip into the backlog such tests cause. CMD (talk) 05:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Nikita Romanov

The article Nikita Romanov has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unreferenced and unimproved 15 years. Much of this essay makes no sense.

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Bearian, Not my article! — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Bearian (talk) 19:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the joy of automated tools. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

More deletions of sockpuppet articles

I saw you deleted pages like Bujin Tongil, which was created by User:Korean National History (blocked for sockpuppeting). Could you also delete Left-wing nationalism in South Korea? They also created this article and I'm the only other major contributor on that page. I cleaned it up a lot, but it's still not a great article, some WP:OR going on. I don't really want to reward their behavior by leaving their writing up. seefooddiet (talk) 21:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Done — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For helping deal with a nasty case of racist, anti-semitic vandalism. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 05:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah, very ugly. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 05:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Quick note

Good block (I'd have blocked for vandalism), but I think the people he was going after are long dead. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 04:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I changed it as BLP doesn’t apply. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 04:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

ScifaxEditor block

Hello Rsjaffe, I see what you’re doing with the bit. Great job so far and thank you for volunteering. But I am questioning the block on ScifaxEditor for username policy violation. Users like OxervEditor or even WikipediaEditor11 and every other usernames that have WikipediaEditor in them were not blocked for a username policy violation. In my opinion, this is not a violation. Want to discuss? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Sure. The person stated they were from “Scifax Technology and Publishing Private Limited” and wrote a promotional article on the company. I blocked because I interpreted the username to be a role account for the company. Was that incorrect? — rsjaffe 🗣️ 07:37, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Usernames are not allowed on Wikipedia if they only contain the names of companies, organizations, websites,… blah blah blah Emphasis mine. This username does not contain only the name of the organisation. Hence I’d consider the block incorrect. Actually, I have seen so many of these from the queue and didn’t report. For this case, the user kindly told us that they’re from Scifax, they literally disclosed it. Maybe a deletion of the promotional material they created and a warning would have sufficed, IMO. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:47, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I took that from Usernames that are solely the names of posts, positions, roles, or job titles within organizations, such as Secretary of the XYZ Foundation, are not permitted, as such posts or positions may be transferred or held by different persons at different times. is that incorrect in this case? I’ll happily unblock if I interpreted that incorrectly. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 07:55, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I think you did honestly, reason being the editors I mentioned above would have been blocked on this basis if that applies to this context. Also being that Editorofthewiki would have been blocked for a username policy violation. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Ah, now I see, “editor” is too generic to be considered a role at a company. Correct? — rsjaffe 🗣️ 08:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

That’s it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Unblocked. Thanks. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 08:22, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I'd have made that block as well when considering the promo editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:11, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

There’s no doubt that it is true, they would have probably been blocked for spam or advertising, etc. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

And now there’s a bunch of confusion at UAA Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention#User-reported. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 14:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

The promo wasn’t bad enough on its own, to be block-worthy. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 14:47, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

That’s why I did a soft block. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 14:47, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I wasn’t saying they should rather be blocked for promo, I was only saying if they should be blocked at all then it should be when they edit promotionally. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Small thanks

Hey, thanks for doing the deletions on my now-unneeded userspace pages. I know it's a small thing, but wanted to let you know you are appreciated!

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 04:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

And thank you for your kind words. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 04:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

My page been deleted

Hello Rsjaffe, I would like to appeal for my page back as I aim confused as to how my page has anything to do with advertising or any kind of propaganda all I mention was my artist name a bit about me and my album and some external link. if you check again you would see nothing at any point relating to advertising my music. I do not wish to go back and fourth all im kindly asking for is for you to help me un delete it and approve it please thank you. XRAYNEOFFICIAL (talk) 19:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

"Promotion" does not necessarily mean commercial promotion: anything can be promoted, including a person, a non-commercial organization, a point of view, etc.

A Wikipedia article is formed from secondary independent sources, which your article had none of. Not everyone is suitable for including in Wikipedia. A person has to be notable. See WP:GNG for a start to understanding notability.

We also strongly discourage people from writing about themselves. If you are notable enough for inclusion, someone else will know of you and write an article.

I suggest if you think you are notable, you can restart your article in your user sandbox (User:XRAYNEOFFICIAL/sandbox), using secondary sources like newspaper articles. If you are able to get something going like that, I can pick out the userbox from the deleted article and give it to you to add. The rest of the deleted article is not coming back. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Copyvio

Thanks, that was fast! JayCubby 03:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

My pleasure. Thanks for working on copyvios. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 03:05, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

A wikikitten for you!

Thank you for those speedy dele- AAAAAA A BUG!

ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 06:05, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Ronald Lamola

Hi Rsjaffe, User Moeletsi24 has added copyrighted content to said page repeatedly even after 2 warnings. Could I ask you to take a look and consider a preventative block until they respond to the talk page messages? Thanks Nobody (talk) 14:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Iran–United States proxy conflict

Hi Rsjaffe. Could you undelete, purge, and then re-delete Iran–United States proxy conflict? It is clogging up an NPP database report for some reason. Thanks. C F A 22:29, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Done — rsjaffe 🗣️ 23:06, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks. C F A 23:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

206.84.250.225

Hi there, the IP has made threats towards Mubogshu on their talk page. Mind revoking TPA? Thanks! Firestar464 (talk) 01:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Done. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

206.84.250.225

Hi Rory. You recently blocked User:206.84.250.225 for two weeks. Since then they have doubled down on their threats with this egregious edit which I think is more than enough to justify extending the block and revoking Talk page access. DanielRigal (talk) 01:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Done. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

bot username reports

Not all the bot reports are the issue - things like very long name without spaces picks up problems that we wouldn't have found otherwise. Some of the reports are actually better at identifying vandals! Secretlondon (talk) 21:53, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

That's what I figured. Then, yesterday, someone with a long name was indeffed for the name. I think that name was marginally trollish but not too bad. That's why I posted on this name, as I didn't want this person to get whacked for it. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 00:22, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

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Erroneous G5s

Hi Rsjaffe. I hope adminship is suiting you well. We all wind up making a few silly mistakes early on, so please don't take this as that much of a big deal, but FYI you made five G5 deletions last month that would only have been true if I or Ookap were sockpuppets, which I assume is not what you meant to say. [1][2][3][4][5] I see how it happened: After Ookap and I tagged these five users as impostors, the LTA behind them self-tagged other userpages of theirs the same way, and then CFA tagged all of the userpages for G5, presumably not noticing that some had actually been tagged by me and Ookap. An understandable mistake, but still a reminder to be a bit more cautious, so here is a small Trout for the both of you to share. :) Could you please restore the five pages? Thanks. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 23:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

@Tamzin. Yikes! Fortunately I find trout tasty, particularly when smoked. I undeleted and reverted the CSD tags. Thanks for telling me. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 23:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Mmm that does sound tasty. Thanks for the prompt response. Happy editing and adminning. :) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 23:53, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Please revoke TPA

User talk:47.147.95.158 Enodgom (talk) 00:58, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

done — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:00, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Erroneous G6s, G7, R2, etc.

• Pagal Premi, a redirect to Eskay Movies#Released, seems obviously not created in error. The initial edit was mistakenly nowiki'ed, but that had been fixed long before deletion.
• Draft:Live From Nashville 1: "we don't need two identical copies" is not a valid basis for speedy deletion. There is a criterion for duplicates of existing articles, WP:A10, but it only applies to recently created articles that are not plausible redirects. Drafts that duplicate an article and are not being used for drafting can just be redirected to the article (if there isn't a need for a history merge for attribution). Additionally, this edit in the article's history indicates that the page history needs to be preserved for attribution.
• Tatuus F4-T-421 is an alternative hyphenation that is in use per a Google search, and is not obviously an error. E.g., "T-421" is in two references in the article's lead (2 and 4).
• Line 4 (Coimbatore Metro) was a move redirect ineligible for G7 because the requester was not the sole author of the moved page, Line 2 (Coimbatore Metro).
• User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Influencer was not within any redirect suppression criterion (i.e., the suppressed move redirect wouldn't have been eligible for speedy deletion without the user's request).
• Effects of Hurricane Milton in Florida was an invalid R2. A page is eligible for speedy deletion only if all its history is eligible for speedy deletion. WP:BLARing an article into a redirect to draftspace does not make it eligible for speedy deletion; instead, the republished article should be unblanked (consistent with WP:DRAFTOBJECT) and the draft merged back in for attribution. (It was draftified as "no sources" then the author republished it with a source, albeit in the form of a bare link.)

Let me know if you believe I am incorrect on any of that. SilverLocust 💬 02:21, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. I appreciate getting feedback on my work, particularly as I am new to this.

• Pagal Premi was created by a sockpuppet after the master was blocked and deleted on that criterion, not due to the error. I have added it back as a valid redirect.
• Draft:Live From Nashville 1 I added back, but we're going to need to talk more about it, or I need to be referred to something that discusses this type of issue, as I'm a bit lost as to what needs to be preserved for attribution.
• Tatuus F4-T-421 is an obvious error on my part.
• I deleted Line 4 (Coimbatore Metro) because the sole author blanked the page. The CSD tag was added by a second person after the page was blanked, and I deleted on the basis of the blanking. I've left that deleted, but will undelete if you still disagree.
• User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Influencer That's an educational point for me, I incorrectly omitted the redirect as the result of the move. Now I have Wikipedia:PMRC read and understood.
• Effects of Hurricane Milton in Florida was an odd one, and now I see the issue. Instead of moving into draftspace it was blanked and redirected to a draftspace version. This one I now understand.

@SilverLocust: Feedback on what I've said? — rsjaffe 🗣️ 03:10, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

The hurricane draft still needed to be merged back from draftspace into mainspace, but I've taken care of that (and will warn the user who edit-warred against the draft objection). And SilverLocust is right on Line 4: G7 only applies to a redirect-from-pagemove if the mover [was] the only substantive contributor to the page[ ] before the move. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 03:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

OK, understand that one too. Will undelete. Thanks. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 03:44, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

As to Draft:Live From Nashville 1 (where the "1" really means "draft 2"), since Myrealnamm copied and pasted a change made by Savingatlasfl from that draft to the other version (saying "see that page's history for attribution"), Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia calls for preserving the page history for attribution. (Though it's a pretty small change.)

But my more general comment is that there isn't some technical reason that additional drafts need to be deleted because they are duplicative. If no longer needed, they can be redirected indefinitely per the footnote in WP:G13 or deleted after 6 months if abandoned without redirecting. But G6 isn't an all-purpose basis for deletion that, for example, expands WP:A10 into other namespaces or expands WP:G13 to drafts that are not needed where 6 months haven't elapsed. I'd just redirect it to Live From Nashville. SilverLocust 💬 05:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Pagal Premi

I'm so sorry for tagging that article, apparently I misclicked something. Thank you for quickly getting rid of it! Ravensfire (talk) 03:22, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Ah - now I see what happened with the undelete. Whew - I was trying to figure out how I might have misclicked a CSD for any reason, I'd forgotten I tagged it yesterday as part of the sock cleanup. Ravensfire (talk) 03:25, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

@Ravensfire and Rsjaffe: The creator of Pagal Premi hasn't been blocked as a sockpuppet, so I'm confused on why it was tagged as WP:G5. If Acer2022 is a sock of the blocked user Your Pritam, then it should be deleted – but after Acer2022 is blocked (or at the same time as blocking them). Am I missing something there? SilverLocust 💬 03:54, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see there is a global lock on that account that I didn't see. Yes, that deletion would be appropriate as G5 rather than G6. SilverLocust 💬 03:57, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Nitai Hershkovits page

Hi, I will appreciate your answer about copyright violation in my talk page--Yossipik (talk) 15:14, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Done. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi again, Will appreciate your notes in my talk page--Yossipik — Preceding undated comment added 18:11, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

revdel on declined drafts

Hi, its good to see someone else working on revdels. If you deal with a draft that has been declined as a copyvio can you please remember to change the decline parameter in {{AFC submission}} from cv to cv-c or else the page stays in Category:Requested RD1 redactions. Thanks. Nthep (talk) 17:30, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

I've been doing that but must have missed one. Could you point me to the one I missed so I can refresh my memory and figure out what happened? Thanks. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:33, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Stanley C. Allyn - this one. No big deal in missing the odd one. Nthep (talk) 20:41, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

AfD Issues

Hi,

I'm unsure of whether issues with off-site canvassing should go to the AN or ANI, but there has been active attempts to canvass off-site to the 15.ai AfD. The AfD was posted on 4chan's /mlp/ board the day it went up. I do not know if this is something I should bring to AN or ANI or neither?

Any help is appreciated, Thanks Brocade River Poems (She/They) 03:38, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm looking at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/15.ai (2nd nomination), and it already has a notice on there about canvassing, which is probably all that needs to be done.

You'd only do something more if you believe action needs to be taken against a user.

The problem with reporting a User to AN/I is that it includes off-wiki information (WP:OUTING), so you cannot publicly post that information, which means that any AN/I discussion remains "hypothetical" without specific facts and doesn't normally fix the issue reported. In extraordinary situations you could think about reporting via confidential means (email) to arb committee if you think it is very serious and action needs to be taken against a Wikipedia user, but this sort of thing normally doesn't get raised to that level. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 03:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Cheers, I wasn't sure whether it should or shouldn't be brought to the AN/ANI after someone had asked me to notify them if it ended up in AN/ANI over the off-site stuff, so figured I'd just ask an admin. Brocade River Poems (She/They) 03:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

You could also ask another admin if you want. I'm pretty new at this.

But, in general, I'd focus on on-wiki behavior. And recognize that the person closing the AfD will know about the canvassing, given the notice on the page. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 04:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm the person being accused by Brocade of being canvassed/sockpuppeted. What's conveniently interesting is that she left out the fact that the alleged 4chan post that started the off-wiki canvassing had a total of two posts on it, neither in support of keeping the article. [6] I certainly never saw this post when I decided to post my opinion, as I don't even use 4chan. I found this very link from her own talk page. Tacotron2 (talk) 04:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

You're not being accused of anything. I included your name in an active SPI investigation because of the timing of your return. Again, I tagged you as an SPA because a majority of your major edits were 15.ai related and 15.ai adjacent and your name is literally the technology which inspired 15.ai. This conversation has little and else to do with you and more to do with the literal proxy IP Address that commented, as well as other strange activity. Whatever happens with you is wholly up to the SPI Investigation. Secondly, it doesn't matter how many posts the thread had, it shows that someone is attempting to canvass and considering that a known multi-account abuser confessed to the existence of a Discord server filled with individuals whom they have discussed 15.ai with in the past, and who as recently as one or two weeks ago was actively abusing another new account at 15.ai to disrupt consensus building, it is beyond obvious that there is off-site disruption. This is beyond exhausting. Brocade River Poems (She/They) 04:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

"This conversation has little and else to do with you" You created a literal investigation against me and got an admin to look into it. Your behavior, not just toward me, is concerning, especially with the newfound evidence I posted in that investigation page. Tacotron2 (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

To both of you: Do not litigate anything about the sockpuppet investigation here. This is counterproductive. I am only providing advice about managing canvassing during an AfD.

To summarize: being canvassed is not a big deal, and is just about how the !vote is assessed. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 04:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Final Question - In regards to the AfD, should I respond to their accusations against me at AfD or continue ignoring them? [7] Brocade River Poems (She/They) 04:29, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

That discussion is already veering away from the merits of the article under review. You both have expressed your views already. That's enough for now. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 04:42, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! Brocade River Poems (She/They) 04:43, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

The person who solicits other people inappropriately may be subject to administrative review if the behavior is severe enough. The annotation on your !vote is only there to help the closer assess the !vote, and your comments after that annotation should be sufficient to properly inform the closer. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 04:19, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

ANI Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:Tacotron2 attempted WP:VOTESTACK. Thank you. Brocade River Poems (She/They) 15:06, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thanks for your great contributions to improve this project. Maliner (talk) 20:13, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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ITA Award for Best Actress in a Drama - Popular

Please don't delete move redirects as WP:G7 without checking that the moved page (the target of the redirect) was never edited by anyone else – nor without checking for incoming redirects that need to be fixed. Same issue as here. This caused every redirect to the article now at ITA Award for Best Actress Popular Drama to become broken (at which point the broken redirects tend to get deleted by another admin not checking whether they should be fixed). SilverLocust 💬 04:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Aargh! Thanks. Thought I had figured that issue out. I had been going very slowly on the redirects, but obviously didn’t internalize the whole message. Looks like you reverted the move that left the redirect. Is that what you did? — rsjaffe 🗣️ 04:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, ITA Award for Best Actress in a Drama - Popular was a redlink when I left the message, but then I moved it back (making this message less clear). Thanks, SilverLocust 💬 05:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

New sock?

You just blocked Jacob Sartonius. Looks like EditingWhileLoggedOut (talk · contribs) is the same person. 10mmsocket (talk) 12:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Another sockpuppet?

I think that User:EditingWhileLoggedOut has the same behaviour as User:Jacob_Sartonius which you have just blocked Special:Contributions/EditingWhileLoggedOut Greensun17 (talk) 12:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)