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Orphaned, Low quality, we have better images[1] Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Dispute this img as being non-replaceable; there is no need to use a non-free img when a free one could be obtained at any match. Mt king ^(edits) 03:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: Logo provision. Nominator is unfamiliar with image rules, and judging from this talk page thread, created this nomination solely to prove a point Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 04:58, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to take a copyrighted image from a website only part of which is a logo when a free image taken at any game will serve the same purpose. Mt king ^(edits) 05:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the way the logo provision works. You are clearly unfamiliar with sports logo image policy Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 05:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep It's a standard helmet logo.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:16, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question: I want to be sure I'm clear on the issues. It seems as though the concern is that these helmets have been created by Charles Arey at [2] and that the non-free use rationales on them apply to the logo design he has used in making his derivative work, but does not apply to the derivative elements -- the helmet. The helmets used in these designs (if I'm understanding the concern) are templates created for this purpose by Arey, who does not license them for our reuse. If this is the case, and if the design is sufficiently creative to be copyrightable, than it would seem that the FUR being used does not apply to all copyrighted elements in the images: the logo would be covered, but the helmets would not. Because of my work on copyright, Mtking asked me to weigh in here. While helmets are not copyrightable (and hence anybody can photograph a helmet and release it, so long as it does not contain separately copyrightable elements), drawings of helmets are copyrightable. Has anybody considered writing this guy to ask him to release his copyright under CC-By-SA? He is obviously well aware based on his text at that link that he cannot release the logos, but he almost comes close enough to a usable release to the helmets: "You may feel free to copy the helmet pictures on these pages and use them (in moderation) on your own non-commercial conference, school, or personal web pages." The problem is with language such as "moderation" and "non-commercial" and with the list of types of web sites that are permitted. If he could be persuaded to release the basic helmet design (the one in the "introduction" section of that page) under CC-By-SA, then the only part of the image that would be non-free is the logo. All the other images are derivative of that work. He would not need to release any image bearing the logo. This would seem to be the best-case resolution. (And might make him happy, since his release would guarantee him credit for his artwork at least in the image description page - which currently he does not have.) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:49, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It appears to me that Moonriddengirl's understanding is correct. The part of the IP owned (copyright and/or trademark, as the case may be) by each school can be subject to a fair-use rationale, but the part of the IP owned by Mr. Arey (The Helmet Project) IS replaceable (it would just take a whole lot of work!) and is not FUR-able. cmadler (talk) 17:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Per Moonriddengirl's suggestion I have emailed Mr. Arey, notifying him of this discussion, and asking him to consider releasing the underlying template using CC-BY-SA. I will share any response here. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 17:29, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. In short, this image is derivative of the "template helmet drawing" shown here, which is copyrightable and clearly replacable, as it does not contain any sort of logo. (The structural design of a helmet is not copyrightable, being utilitarian; but any photograph or drawing thereof can carry its own copyright.) I see four straightforward options for replacing it: 1. someone can take a photo of the real helmet; 2. someone can take a photo of an unadorned white helmet under an appropriate license and then we can put the logo on it; 3. someone can create their own template helmet drawing under an appropriate license and then we can put the logo on it; 4. we can persuade the Helmet Project to release the template helmet drawing under a compatible license. Dcoetzee 15:26, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Even if a logoed helmet image will never be completely free, it makes no sense to use a non-free image combining two copyrighted works - the copyrighted helmet image and the copyrighted logo. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: Logo provision. Seen in every newspaper. Or shall we toss these from how many thousand articles on WP? Montanabw^(talk) 19:13, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem, as Dpmuk points out, is not with the logo; it's with the helmet. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 00:44, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is a quite reasonable fair use rationale for the logo and just showing the logo would, IMO, be fine. However these images are made from two seperate images - the helmet and the logo. It appears to me that the helmet image is copyrightable and doesn't have a usable release. I don't think it is possible to come up with a FUR for the helmet as it is very easily replacable. As a derative work of a copyrighted work with no FUR for the use of that work (rather than the logo) this should be deleted. Just to be clear my issue here, along, I think, with the other delete votes, is the use of the underlying helmet not the logo. Dpmuk (talk) 23:00, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Dispute this img as being non-replaceable; there is no need to use a non-free img when a free one could be obtained at any match. Mt king ^(edits) 03:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: Logo provision. Nominator is unfamiliar with image rules, and judging from this talk page thread, created this nomination solely to prove a point Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 04:58, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to take a copyrighted image from a website only part of which is a logo when a free image taken at any game will serve the same purpose. Mt king ^(edits) 05:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the way the logo provision works. You are clearly unfamiliar with sports logo image policy Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 05:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep It's a standard helmet logo.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question: I don't want to reproduce the whole text, but I have posted a question relevant to this conversation as well at #File:LSU_Helmet.png. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: Logo provision. Seen in every newspaper. Or shall we toss these from how many thousand articles on WP? Montanabw^(talk) 19:13, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment See the delete votes above, which may reflect a better understanding of the issue than some of the "speedy keep" requests. The issue is not with the logo; it's with the helmet. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 00:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Dispute this img as being non-replaceable; there is no need to use a non-free img when a free one could be obtained at any match. Mt king ^(edits) 03:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Before photographing any matches, one should be sure to take proper fire-safety precautions. Jweiss11 (talk) 04:08, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: Logo provision. Nominator is unfamiliar with image rules, and judging from this talk page thread, created this nomination solely to prove a point Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 04:58, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to take a copyrighted image from a website only part of which is a logo when a free image taken at any game will serve the same purpose. Mt king ^(edits) 05:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the way the logo provision works. You are clearly unfamiliar with sports logo image policy Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 05:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep It's a standard helmet logo.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question: I don't want to reproduce the whole text, but I have posted a question relevant to this conversation as well at #File:LSU_Helmet.png. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: Logo provision. Seen in every newspaper. Or shall we toss these from how many thousand articles on WP? Montanabw^(talk) 19:13, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment See the delete votes above, which may reflect a better understanding of the issue than some of the "speedy keep" requests. The issue is not with the logo; it's with the helmet. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 00:43, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Invalid--no FUR and free alternative could be found. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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No identifiable subject. Does not have any image information save an empty {{information}} tag. Not used anywhere and has no potential encyclopedic use. Not suitable for transfer to Commons. (Who would use it anyway?) Fleet Command (talk) 10:06, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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+ These files:

It says "©Minati Baro" on the photo. We do not know if uploader is Minati Baro. The license says {{PD-release}} indicating it is not own work. Other files uploaded by the user says "©Gautam Chandra Baro". Could be relatives but we do not know.

Then there is:

They do not have the same copyright notice as the others. They just say "Image taken in the Slovak Repubic" so that could be own work (however also has {{PD-release}}). MGA73 (talk) 10:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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watermarked by the weather channel - likely copyvio Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, photo of copyrighted sign Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:36, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, photo of copyrighted packaging Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:37, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, photo of copyrighted packaging (on the verge of PD-text but I think the background stuff and H-looking logo bump it up to copyrightability) Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:38, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, Unencyclopedic (Hurricanes (basketball)) Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:03, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:05, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unverifiable source, superseded by File:AUT Parndorf COA.jpg Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:21, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unverifiable source, seems to be incorrect (File:Coat of arms of Heiligenkreuz.svg is the COA currently in the article) Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:22, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, superseded by SVG Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, unverifiable source (SVG version already deleted from commons as unsourced) Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, superseded by SVG Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.