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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 15, 2024.

Footman Frenzy

Footmen Frenzy → Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Footmen frenzy → Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Huh? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery: Apparently this was a thing - a game-within-the-game that once had a substantial (but basically unsourced) article. See here, here, here. In other words, a thing that exists, may be worth a mention, but can not support an article of its own. BD2412 T 01:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed, a popular custom game and perhaps worth a mention, but as it's not mentioned now, delete. It was not a particularly important one at the end of the day, unlike DotA's leading what became the MOBA genre, so I don't anticipate being added any time soon. Izno Public (talk) 02:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and IznoPublic. --Un assiolo (talk) 15:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just tagged Footmen Frenzy with {{R with history}}. Jay 💬 11:38, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Footmen Frenzy's page history?
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Standard for the Andalusian Language

Standard for the Andalusian Language → Standard for Andalusian (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This name does not exist. Looking up "Standard for the Andalusian Language" in Google only brings Wikipedia mirrors. The would-be Spanish translation, "Estándar para el idioma andaluz", does not bring one single Google result, though it suggests the target page. This redirect came as a result of a newer user translating an article and choosing this name, which I moved to an accurate translation. Super Ψ Dro 11:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Online education

Online education → Distance education (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Online Education → Educational technology (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 14 § Online education – retarget to Distance education

Seems ambiguous. There is also Online school. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 13:02, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget [Online Education] to Distance education. Thanks to the COVID pandemic happening, this seems to be the primary redirect topic for these terms with Educational technology and Online school being potential subtopics when referring to the nominated redirects. Steel1943 (talk) 20:37, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Listed the previous RfD. Note that there was a disambig page Online learning that was discussed there. Jay 💬 11:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Speako

Speako → Spoonerism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

seems to refer to speech errors in general, and not just spoonerisms. opinions? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:54, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The game (the game)

The game (the game) → The Game (mind game) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unnecessary duplication (unnecessary duplication). Implausible. Alongside this, congrats on losing the game! mwwv ^converse∫_edits 20:01, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak retarget to The game#Sports and games. Steel1943 (talk) 20:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to the use of the definite article in the disambiguator. Second choice is to retarget to The game#Sports and games as {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} per Steeel1943. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:00, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This deletion nomination is just trolling? --MZMcBride (talk) 02:08, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think a WP:GF failure is a valid keep rationale. Steel1943 (talk) 20:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (delete) as an WP:RDAB. I don't see anyone actually being helped by this. If kept, it should be retargeted per Steel. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:08, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RDAB does not apply here; there are technically no errors in the format and potential capitalization (and spelling) errors are irrelevant because it is not a variation of 'disambiguation'. For example, a redirect such as Band (band) would be appropriate for a band named 'Band'. Thus, we cannot write these off wholesale. — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 05:11, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - the rationale for this redirect is that it is referring to the ambiguous phrase the game in the context of something that is specifically known as "the game". This seems at least somewhat plausible, and I don't see anything that would be gained by deletion - no evidence has been put forward that this redirect is causing actual harm. Hog Farm _Talk 14:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Master Levels

Master Levels → Doom II#Master Levels for Doom II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

surprisingly, doom 2 is the primary topic for this... just seemingly not to the extent that it completely drowns out results to other things that might use this relatively vague term. doom eternal also uses this name i guess cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. My research agrees that the current target is the primary topic, and is more common than all the other uses put together to the extent that no other meaning got more than 1 hit on the first three pages of search results and even when excluding "doom" from the search term most other results were passing collocations. If there is something else that this is a useful search term for then it can be included in a hatnote. Thryduulf (talk) 16:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This phrase also has particular affinity for some The Legend of Zelda games. Steel1943 (talk) 20:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I oppose deletion. If you disagree there is a primary topic (despite the clear evidence there is) then it should be disambiguated. Thryduulf (talk) 08:15, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Current target is a WP:PTM. The usage of the term in reference to Zelda is more of a search term than an official title. Deletion seems the way to go. Steel1943 (talk) 13:53, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hastings East (Vancouver)

Hastings East (Vancouver) → Vancouver (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention at target. Could refer to East Hastings, or to a more general neighbourhood/area as in [1]. Thoughts? Cremastra (talk) 21:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 15:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't actually think deletion is the best option here. It's definitely an option, but it's not part of my nomination. Cremastra (talk) 20:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Where would you suggest retargeting? We can also let the search results deal with it. --Un assiolo (talk) 13:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

East Hastings is a redirect so it would not be an appropriate target page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:50, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No plausible target has been provided yet for this redirect…
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Dryfront

Operation Dryfront → Operation Wetback (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target, no Google hits. This seems to be the literal opposite of "wetback", which I doubt makes this a helpful redirect, so I propose it be deleted. ^Complex/_Rational 14:50, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I originally made it due to it being used to talk about the operation in the political space on twitch, primarily by hasanabi, as the term is considered a slur. If that's not enough for a redirect, fair enough. Emma0mb ^talk 18:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. While I'm only seeing one google hit for "operation dryfront" (but it wouldn't find uses in Twitch videos) and a couple more for "operation dry front", "dryfront" and "dry front" alone do get multiple uses in this context as ways to avoid using a slur. Indeed at least one use is to bypass a forum filter that prevented linking to an encyclopaedia article about the operation. While the redirect wasn't used between creation on 14 August and nomination, that's not a long enough time to reliably demonstrate how useful or otherwise the redirect is, especially when the target typically only gets a few hundred hits a day. Thryduulf (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:23, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upper chest

Upper chest → Thorax (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Specific concept in question as such not detailed in given target. Hildeoc (talk) 08:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't think this is doing any harm as it is, and I can't think of a better target. "Chest" also redirects to thorax, if a reader is looking for something specific to the upper chest (e.g. Pectoralis major or nipple) the thorax article will appropriately get them there. Bestagon ⬡ 15:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep per Bestagon. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Klein (businessman) (disambiguation)

Michael Klein (businessman) (disambiguation) → Michael Klein (businessman) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete: Michael Klein (businessman) is not ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sam H.

Sam H. → Sam Houston (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Created by now blocked sockpuppet. Title is too ambiguous to direct to any article or existing DAB page, nor suitable as a DAB page in its own right. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:2023 Sher-E-Punjab T20 Cup

Draft:2023 Sher-E-Punjab T20 Cup → Punjab Kings (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Pointless redirect to an unrelated page. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 09:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brian de Regt

Brian de Regt → pl:Brian De Regt (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete, unless there is an appropriate local target for this page. Sending readers to non-English content is not helpful. Additionally, the plain {{soft redirect}} template is not used in the mainspace (WP:SOFTSP). See here for precedents. — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 05:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The only mention on en.wp is at Rowayton, Connecticut#Notable people; such sections are normally reserved for people with their own article and so should not be the target of redirects from names. Thryduulf (talk) 11:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+==== Footman Frenzy ====
+*<span id="Footmen Frenzy">{{no redirect|1 = Footmen Frenzy }}</span> → [[:Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Footmen Frenzy|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Footmen Frenzy|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Footmen Frenzy|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-07-29&end=2024-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Footmen_Frenzy|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''[{{fullurl:Footmen Frenzy|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Footmen Frenzy]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Footmen Frenzy|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Footmen Frenzy]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Footmen Frenzy|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Footmen Frenzy]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>''&nbsp;]</small>
+*<span id="Footmen frenzy">{{no redirect|1 = Footmen frenzy }}</span> → [[:Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Footmen frenzy|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Footmen frenzy|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Footmen frenzy|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-07-29&end=2024-08-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Footmen_frenzy|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''[{{fullurl:Footmen frenzy|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Footmen frenzy]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Footmen frenzy|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Footmen frenzy]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Footmen frenzy|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Footmen frenzy]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>''&nbsp;]</small>
+Huh? [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 00:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
+* {{re|Pppery}} Apparently [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Footmen_Frenzy&oldid=78174779 this was a thing] - a game-within-the-game that once had a substantial (but basically unsourced) article. See [https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Warcraft_III:_The_Frozen_Throne/Footmen_Frenzy here], [https://books.google.com/books?id=8E5XDiGRKgwC&pg=PA30&dq=%22Footmen+Frenzy%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjR58TDxJaIAxVKD1kFHQq9CZcQ6AF6BAgGEAI#v=onepage&q=%22Footmen%20Frenzy%22&f=false here], [https://www.oneesports.gg/gaming/first-impressions-warcraft-iii-reforged/ here]. In other words, a thing that exists, may be worth a mention, but can not support an article of its own. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 01:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
+:Yes indeed, a popular custom game and perhaps worth a mention, but as it's not mentioned now, delete. It was not a particularly important one at the end of the day, unlike DotA's leading what became the [[MOBA]] genre, so I don't anticipate being added any time soon. [[User:Izno|Izno]][[User:IznoPublic|Public]] ([[User talk:Izno#top|talk]]) 02:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' per nom and IznoPublic. --[[User:Un assiolo|Un assiolo]] ([[User talk:Un assiolo|talk]]) 15:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
+*Just tagged Footmen Frenzy with {{tl|R with history}}.<span style="font-family:Segoe Script">[[User:Jay| Jay]]</span><span style="font-size:115%">[[User talk:Jay| 💬]]</span> 11:38, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
+:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />'''Relisting comment:''' Thoughts on [[Footmen Frenzy]]'s page history?<br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small>[[User:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b>]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:CycloneYoris|<b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b>]]</sup> 11:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
 ====Standard for the Andalusian Language====
 *<span id="Standard for the Andalusian Language">{{no redirect|1 = Standard for the Andalusian Language }}</span> → [[:Standard for Andalusian]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Standard for the Andalusian Language|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Standard for the Andalusian Language|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Standard for the Andalusian Language|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2024-08-16&end=2024-09-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Standard_for_the_Andalusian_Language|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''[{{fullurl:Standard for the Andalusian Language|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Standard for the Andalusian Language]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Standard for the Andalusian Language|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Standard for the Andalusian Language]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Standard for the Andalusian Language|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{#invoke:TEMPLATENAME|main}}#Standard for the Andalusian Language]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;