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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
August 14 1
August 18 1
August 20 1
August 25 2
August 27 1
August 28 1
August 29 1
August 30 4 2
August 31 3 3
September 2 1 1
September 3 3 1
September 4 1
September 5 2
September 6 3 2
September 7 4 2
September 8 2
September 9 5 2
September 11 2
September 12 4
September 13 2
September 15 5 2
September 16 4 1
September 17 1
September 18 5 2
September 19 4 1
September 20 9 2
September 21 4 1
September 22 5 3
September 23 6
September 24 5 1
September 25 2
September 26 4 1
September 27 7 4
September 28 6 4
September 29 3 2
September 30 7 4
October 1 5 2
October 2 4 1
October 3 10 5
October 4 9 3
October 5 9 6
October 6 8 3
October 7 12 9
October 8 7 3
October 9 14 7
October 10 12 4
October 11 11 6
October 12 6 4
October 13 13 3
October 14 4 2
October 15 9 2
October 16 8 2
October 17 4
October 18 4
Total 270 103
Last updated 21:22, 18 October 2024 UTC
Current time is 23:37, 18 October 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

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If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers

Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

How to promote an accepted hook

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 28

Articles created/expanded on August 3

Articles created/expanded on August 4

Articles created/expanded on August 11

Jacques Lewis

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  • Source: "Believed to be the last surviving Frenchman to wade ashore with Americans, he was attached to an Army unit that stormed Utah Beach and helped drive Germans out of France."
NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 139 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 16:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC). Review[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The NYT source does not support the hook as written because it only covers the US landings but there were British and Canadian beaches on D-Day too. A claim of first/last is a flag Redflag and so needs excellent verification.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - "Believed" is a weasel word and/or expression of doubt. If this is a definite fact, as it should be, then we should state it as such without such tentative language.

QPQ: No - Not provided yet. done Note current discussions about limiting nominations on credit like this.
Overall: I'm not sure of the formal status of translations but this review template asks Is the article free of material copied from other sources? and it isn't. The article seemed to need some copy-editing and so further work of that kind may soften the issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your review. Will fix up shortly. Thriley (talk) 21:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that Jacques Lewis, a 105 year old French veteran of D-Day, insisted that he participate in a ceremony commemorating the invasion's 80th anniversary? Thriley (talk) 20:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Davidson: Have your concerns been addressed, and does this hook work? If not, what else needs to be done to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 14:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The QPQ has been done and the ALT1 hook seems ok. I raised the issue of translation at WT:DYK but, iirc, most responders didn't seem to be bothered about this.
Looking at the article, I notice that the lead is too short, being just one sentence, and there's just a generic section title of "Biography" which isn't helpful to the reader. So, some copy-editing still seems needed. I'll keep a tab open and make a pass through it myself to see if that helps or turns up any issues. More anon...
Andrew🐉(talk) 14:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding "believed", the is what the New York Times states. It is extremely unlikely there are any other living French vets of the American landings on D-Day. I'll change it to "was" if there are no objections. Thriley (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RoySmith: I have changed it to "believed to be" Thriley (talk) 20:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on August 14

Hammond's Hard Lines

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  • ... that depending on the edition, a fairy or a gremlin grants wishes to the titular character of Hammond's Hard Lines?
  • Source: "Books of the Day: 'Hammond's Hard Lines'". The Liverpool Mercury. 1901-12-12. p. 10. Retrieved 2024-08-20 – via Newspapers.com. / "Review of Books for Backward Readers". The Slow Learning Child. 3 (3): 173–183. 1957. doi:10.1080/0156655570030308. ISSN 1034-912X. Retrieved 2024-08-20 – via Taylor & Francis Online.
Created by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1 as currently written is inaccurate: there are countless examples from anime and manga alone, let alone other genres of literature. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1b: ... that Hammond's Hard Lines was one of the few school stories by a British author to feature fantasy in its plot? Source: Wotton, Joy; Auchmuty, Rosemary, eds. (2000). "Skelton Kuppord (Pseudonym for Sir John Adams)". The Encyclopaedia of School Stories. Ashgate. p. 211. ISBN 0-7546-0083-1. Retrieved 2024-09-08 – via Google Books Snippets. (Emphasis on the nationality this time; apologies if I didn't sign last time.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I really have doubts about this angle to be honest. It's a rather exceptional claim and thus needs exceptional sourcing, and I can't imagine that the hook is actually all that accurate, especially when Harry Potter exists. The term "few" in this case is also vague. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It also has to be noted that the "by a British author" is not supported by the article or quote either, so unless that's resolved then ALT1b fails verification. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All that's left among my options is a review:
ALT2: ... that The Bookseller viewed Hammond's Hard Lines as "a very diverting amalgam of a fairy tale and an ordinary story of schoolboy life"? Source: "Messrs. Blackie & Son's Books for the Young: Hammond's Hard Lines. By Skelton Kuppord". The Christmas Bookseller. December 1894. p. 11. Retrieved 2024-09-19 – via Google Books. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 04:55, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That could work, but this would still need a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is new and long enough, appropriately cited, and free from CV, NPOV issues, etc. However, I think the article overuses square brackets to alter quotes far beyond what's needed for clarity. Per MOS:PMC (No relation), we should be altering quotes as little as possible. In most of the cases in this article it's unnecessary (in the box quote, why add commas that weren't in the original?), and mostly could be written around instead of altering the quote. For example, the quote that has been altered to "In spite of [the] limitations [stemming from the text's simplification,]" could be rendered as something like The Woman Teacher observed that "the story flows smoothly and is interesting" despite having been simplified". This should be corrected before the article runs.

As for the hook, ALT2 is not particularly interesting, in my opinion. It boils down to a mildly positive review that mentions the genre. If we're going to do a quote hook, the Liverpool Post and Mercury review, with its comment about how the book is "dangerously experimental", seems much more hooky, since the average reader will wonder what on earth is dangerous about a milquetoast boys adventure story. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Premeditated Chaos I think you're being overly strict about the quotes. If this was WP:FAC, that would be a valid issue, but DYK doesn't require any WP:MOS compliance. It's good to point out ways the article could be improved, but I don't think it's fair to hold up approval based on criteria beyond what WP:DYKG requires. RoySmith (talk) 01:42, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My non-approval was far more about the hook being boring than about the quote issue. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:15, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
checkY @Premeditated Chaos: Fixed.
ALT3: ... that a 1920s reviewer considered Hammond's Hard Lines "dangerously experimental ground for boys' fiction"? Source: "Christmas Gift Books: Schools, Sport, and Mystery". Liverpool Post and Mercury. 1924-12-03. p. 13. Retrieved 2024-10-09 – via Newspapers.com. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:39, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think ALT3 is much more likely to attract clicks. Still think the quotes ought to be fixed, but I won't hold up promotion on it. I just looked at your QPQ though and I don't know that it's sufficient - WP:QPQ says it ought to be a "full review", but all that was done at Template:Did you know nominations/Takara's Treasure was to add a tick to another user's review. Do you have any full reviews to substitute? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Slgrandson: Please note that the nomination times out in two days, so please promptly address any remaining concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:36, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Slgrandson: You need to complete a full QPQ as the one you supplied is not sufficient.--Launchballer 19:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: As now provided above. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Slgrandson, the new one is not better. It's merely a comment. Do you understand that a qualifying WP:QPQ needs to be a full review, as I noted above? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Premeditated Chaos: New replacement provided. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 21:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Slgrandson, I am genuinely not trying to be obstructive, but your comment there does not address the majority of things that are supposed to be addressed in a full DYK review. You have not addressed newness, length, the nominator's QPQ, or interestingness and length of the hook. You say "GBooks preview firmly checks out, matching the text in the article" but it's not clear whether you're verifying the hook here or just spot checking the source in general. And in point of fact, the hook there doesn't match the article text - the hook says the practice "has been traced back to the 12th century", but the article text says that that academic "traces the origin...to the 11th century". Please expand your review there, such that it properly addresses all aspects that a DYK review should address. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PMC, does the updated review meet the criteria? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 16

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Articles created/expanded on August 19

Articles created/expanded on August 20

Articles created/expanded on August 23

Articles created/expanded on August 24

Articles created/expanded on August 25

2024 Ohio Issue 1

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  • ... that the Republican-led Ohio Ballot Board was sued because its official summary for Ohio Issue 1, designed to improve redistricting, stated instead that the initiative would require gerrymandering?
  • Source: the Board's summary "describes the amendment, which is specifically intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, as specifically requiring it."
https://apnews.com/article/ohio-gerrymandering-redistricting-bd589ead234436f1b113b35d28c71cc7#
Created by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

ProfGray (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

No reason not to review it now; if it gets approved, it can be placed in the special occasion section set up for election hooks to run after the November election in the US. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starting review:

  • As noted above, this should be held until after the upcoming elections
    • That will in turn require updating wording like to be voted upon in the November 2024 election. It would be useful to mark this up with {{Update after}} reminders now, but I'll leave that for somebody else.
    • Obviously, if we run this after the election, it will need to be updated with the outcome and probably reactions.
  • New enough (created August 25, nominated the next day)
  • Long enough
  • QPQ exempt
  • Earwig calls out lots of text duplication, but it's all properly attributed quotes, so no worries there.
  • Since this is a controversial issue, I gave the sources a close look. For the most part, they appear to be WP:RS. I do see a few duplicated sources, which WP:REFILL can help fix, but that's not a DYK criterion.
  • The Official arguments section does a good job of hewing to WP:NPOV.
    • I am, however, somewhat concerned about the Support section. The large "Yes" box duplicates much of the preceding paragraph, is not balanced by a "No" box, probably violates MOS:EMBED, and is almost certainly incomplete today and at risk of going out of date at any point in the future. I'd drop it.
    • I'm also unconvinced that the Polling section is useful and probably violates WP:NPOV since it only lists one poll.
  • I pretty much agree with Andrevan about the hooks. Although they all get under the 200 character official limit, they're all excessively wordy, and not very interesting.
  • RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review. I agree with some of your concerns, mostly about edits since my DYK submission, eg the Yes box (blown up from a more selective prose text) and the Polling. If (or: since) the DYK can't be run at this stage, I will wait to edit and update until after the election, ok? Given the timing, does the "new enough" criterion still a pass? After the vote, perhaps an better DYK hook will be apparent. Thanks for your review and for everyone's input here. ProfGray (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about the timing; as long as you get the nomination in on time, you're good. If we hold it up because of our rules, that's on us. RoySmith (talk) 17:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 26

Articles created/expanded on August 27

Aviation Accidents in Japan Involving U.S. Military and Government Aircraft Post-World War II

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    • Reviewed:
Created by Global Donald (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Global Donald (talk) 02:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I've sent it to AfD, which means this nomination must go on hold.--Launchballer 13:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AfD withdrawn; full review needed.--Launchballer 15:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 28

El Eternauta: tercera parte

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Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 125 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - See below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new and long enough. No problems with Earwig. A few small issues, however. Some of the material in the article lack citations. For example, the lead contains two statements that are missing citations to confirm (they're not confirmed anywhere in the article body). The entire "Plot" section is unsourced. The proposed hook itself is interesting, but needs to be rewritten. It states that Héctor Germán Oesterheld himself was a character in his own comic, who was retained after he died. In fact, the cited source states that the character of Germán was "Oesterheld's character" ("el personaje de Oesterheld"), but does not explicitly state that it is him. (Native Spanish speaker here, by the way.) The source makes clear that the character is certainly based on him; the hook needs to be reworded accordingly. Another detail that needs to be ironed out is that the hook unequivocally states that Oesterheld is dead. However, all sources I've read state that he is presumed dead. Even if his death is certain, I'm not sure that it could've been declared official at the time this third part of the comic was published in 1981, while the Dirty War was still ongoing. Otherwise, this is a very interesting article about a subject I previously had zero knowledge of! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • I have rewritten the lead. Plot sections of articles about works of fiction do not require citations; it is accepted that the book itself is the source. That Oesterheld included himself as a character within the first two stories he wrote does not need to be referenced either, for similar reasons (he's not even the first author who uses that trick, see here). The hook, however, focuses on the real-life stuff about the character. As for his death, it is correct that his death had never been officially confirmed by the military, but his kidnapping was denounced by the family and other organizations shortly after April 1977, and informed by Cadena Informativa on September 1977. It's all in reference 1. A bit off-topic for this article (better suited for HGO's biography, or the second part), but clearly not a situation that Ediciones Record didn't know. They may be in the dark about the details, but not about their star writer being missing and reported kidnapped by the military. Cambalachero (talk) 01:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Just a moment, please. Looking over the changes now... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for everybody's patience. The lead has been improved. No problems with the plot! The ALT still needs to be tweaked. Again, he was, in all likelihood, dead by the time the comic was published. However, he seems never to have been officially declared dead, only presumed dead. It seems like splitting hairs, but it's the kind of thing other editors may potentially bring up once the hook goes live. So best to address it now by modifying the ALT with the qualifier "probably". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]



Articles created/expanded on August 29

List of oral repositories

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  • Source:

[6] pg. 34

[7]
    • Reviewed:
Created by Kowal2701 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Kowal2701 (talk) 16:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • ALT1 that in indigenous societies people serve as oral repositories of knowledge, values, and morals, and have been termed "walking libraries"? [8]
  • ALT2 that in oral cultures people serve as repositories of knowledge, values, and morals, and have been termed "walking libraries"?
  • Draft published on 30 August, so this was nominated within required time. Hooks are fine (I think ALT0 is the best). But the problem is that much of the article is unreferenced. While only one sentence of prose needs a citation, half if not more entries in the tables do not have citations. I am also confused why for some rows, the citations are in different columns. Ex. Most entries in 'term' have references, but occasionally entries in others have referneces too. This is messy, and I'd suggest adding a new column 'sources' or such and moving references there, IF they are supporting all claims in the row. But there are cleary some rows with no citations (ex. Sangoma). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, good idea, I’ll create a new column. I thought you wouldn’t need a citation for articles on Wikipedia since that makes them non-contestable, but that is just WP:Circular.Kowal2701 (talk) 14:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus is that okay now?

Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs

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Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 30

Mitch Torres

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* ... that writer, director, and first Indigenous Australian on-air presenter for SBS Television Mitch Torres is a "self-proclaimed damper destroyer"?

"We chat to self-proclaimed damper destroyer Mitch (pictured, right) about family cooking rivalries, top-secret ingredients and living off the land." Hegarty, Siobhan (29 January 2015). "18 minutes with Mitch Torres". SBS Food. Special Broadcasting Service. Retrieved 30 August 2024.
Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 40 past nominations.

Ornithoptera (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Oh, "Minister of White Affairs" got a good belly laugh out of me! New enough and long enough. Earwig gives 47%, but everything is the name of an award, so it looks okay. Hook fact for ALT1 checks out. ALT0, however... given the history of "first" statements on the main page, I'm not sure if the sourcing is solid enough. Two of the four references for her being the first indigenous presenter are film festivals, where participants often provide their own biodata. The other two are a bit more solid, but at the same time a "first" claim gives me pause. ALT1 should be okay, but ALT0 will need further discussion if you'd rather use it.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:21, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Crisco 1492! Thank you for taking the time to look through the article! Apologies for the late response, I've had a busy week. I feel like the Australian Film Television and Radio School is a reliable secondary source, but it's hard to verify outside of that. If that does not pass in order to include in the hook, we can workshop an alternative that is without Torres' biographical details and skips straight to the "self proclaimed damper destroyer" quote? Ornithoptera (talk) 02:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for getting back to me, per your suggestion, I will provide the following alternative hook:
A bit of a simplified version of ALT0, but it's simple and gets to the point. Frankly, Babakiueria's plot is very hook-y so there is a bit of a preference for ALT1 at the end of the day for the DYK admins. Torres has a very long career, and I'm very thankful you took the time to go through the article Crisco 1492! Cheers! Ornithoptera (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra

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ミラP@Miraclepine 15:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough. Although WP:DYKLEN does not address this, I am not happy when an article just barely meets the length requirements thanks to repeating a significant portion of its content in the lead pararaph or lead section. Without said repetition, this article contains about 1350 characters of prose. I also do not think that a minister opening a chess championship is particularly interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Surtsicna: Well, the thing is, it is what a lede is supposed to do, to summarize the basics, and while I try to keep the lede as necessarily short as possible, in this case the lede just happened to summarize the entire body in only a third of its size. And to be honest, I just found it unusual for a health minister to open a national chess championship during their tenure, which is why it felt interesting to have as a hook. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Filomena Fortes

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 55 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 15:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough and long enough. Earwig gives 8.9% on Copyvio check, which admittedly isn't going to help with Portuguese sources. Spotchecking through Google, I can't see any issues. Referencing is good, hook fact is cited. ALT1 preferred, as it is much punchier.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]





Articles created/expanded on August 31

The Cock Destroyers

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Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 249 past nominations.

Launchballer 17:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Both articles are new enough and long enough (Slag Wars doesn't register as 5x by the DYK tool, but comparing the pre-expansion version it is 7x). All of the hooks are cited and meet DYKINT, though my personal preference is ALT2 (ALT0 focuses on a third party, ALT1 relies on knowledge of Healy, and ALT3 is "people get famous, are featured on BBC"). Images both appear free, being extracted from free videos. No close paraphrasing found - Earwig flags one source at 53%, but that's because of the large block quote. Looks good to go!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! The reason Slag Wars doesn't register as 5x is because DYKcheck picks up stuff from this version, which picks up around 563 false positive characters from an unformatted list.--Launchballer 22:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anaïs Gallagher, Oasis Live '25 Tour, Filthy Lucre Tour

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Created by Launchballer (talk), Aibo22 (talk), and TheBestEditorInEngland (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 248 past nominations.

Launchballer 15:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Launchballer: Since this is a double nomination, you will need to provide an additional QPQ. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have. That's a double nom.--Launchballer 05:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for not noticing! Just make it clear in the nomination so that a reviewer will be aware. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A reviewer should check before ticking it off, but I've added a note anyway. As for adding an additional QPQ, there's probably just enough room for "that after Liam and Noel Gallagher's band Oasis announced for 2025 "the most controversial band reunion since the Sex Pistols' 1996 Filthy Lucre Tour", Noel's daughter Anaïs Gallagher criticised some fans for ageism and sexism?", so you might get lucky. I should probably write the third article first though.--Launchballer 08:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I have just published Filthy Lucre Tour and would like to nominate it using the QPQ Abortion in Senegal, which I reviewed as part of the triple nom Abortion in Africa. I was wondering if you objected to me swapping out the double I've provided for this with that triple?--Launchballer 02:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As long as the Abortion in Africa QPQ is already a complete review and you plan on reusing the current QPQ in a future nomination, it shouldn't be an issue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've covered everything in that review, so I've adjusted this nomination. For what it's worth, I'm planning on swapping the double nom for the two singles at The Cock Destroyers and using those on future noms for Talk Talk (Charli XCX song) and Have I Got News For You (US).--Launchballer 02:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Managed to score tickets to this... here's hoping there's no cancellations! I'm seeing a big red flag with Earwig for Anais; 96.7% possibility of copying. This maybe be a backwards copy, but that should be marked on the talk page. For the Tour, there's a 46% chance, but that's due to quotes that are properly attributed. Filthy lucre has similar results. Everything else looks good for all three articles.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the Anais backwards copy to the talk page. What else do I need to do?--Launchballer 20:31, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 2

Pan He

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Zhuhai Fisher Girl
Zhuhai Fisher Girl
  • ... that the Chinese sculptor Pan He used his Reunion to commemorate both the handover of Macau and his return to his beloved cousin?
  • Source: Jiang, Xinchen (November 26, 2020). "潘鹤：渔女之父的珠海情缘" [Pan He: The Father of the Fisherwoman and His Love for Zhuhai]. Southcn.com (in Chinese). China South Publishing & MediaGroup. Archived from the original on September 1, 2024. Retrieved September 1, 2024.
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 677 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Apologies, I should have said "not a review (and I review oldest first so would not get to this any time soon)". (Not sure why I forgot, I say that literally every other time.)--Launchballer 01:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed for both articles.--Launchballer 01:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Both articles are well-written and well-sourced. Spotchecked the Chinese sources and they all appear to be fine. Earwig shows that the articles are copyvio free. Good to go with ALT1, which includes both articles in the hook, as requested by the nominator. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 3

The Nualas

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Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 26 past nominations.

Bogger (talk) 14:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 4

Gigi Perez, Sailor Song (song)

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Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk), Ss112 (talk), MC-123 (talk), and Heartleap (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 250 past nominations.

Launchballer 09:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - Not a super surprising thing for a songwriter to say

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: Recognize that QPQs are coming up, so this is a bit early; only issue is I feel like the hook could be a bit more interesting. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing ALT1: "... that songwriter Gigi Perez first went viral for a song on TikTok, where she had begun to upload videos to cope with her grief?". Maybe Gigi Perez could use ALT1, and Sailor Song could use ALT0, if it is possible to add two DYKs with one nomination? Also, since I'm new, if anyone wanted to double-check my copyvio checking that would be appreciated (not that I think there is any). Mrfoogles (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. You can definitely split up a nomination post hoc - see Talk:Lucy Tun for one such example - however hook interestingness does not depend on topic, so if it isn't good enough for Gigi, it won't be good enough for Sailor Song. I've taken the liberty of renumbering your ALT0a to ALT1 as it introduces new information, and would suggest ALT1a: that the "Sailor Song" songstress Gigi Perez first began uploading content to TikTok to cope with grief? - but you will still need a new reviewer for that. I do however wonder if it's worth leaving 'not a democracy' out of ALT0 and running the rest, i.e. ALT0a: ... that the lyrics of Gigi Perez's "Sailor Song" received criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities?--Launchballer 22:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I have no idea what you mean by "QPQs are coming up" - I've done everything required by WP:DYKRI.--Launchballer 15:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrfoogles: Please address the above.--Launchballer 17:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Okay, you could have just asked: we're all volunteers here. I think that when I first reviewed you were only partway through the reviews, so I figured that it probably wasn't time yet. QPQs do look done now; going to leave this to another reviewer to pick the hook. Personally I think ALT0a sounds fine, but I like ALT1 a lot (the exact phrasing might not be perfectly, but I think it's interesting): maybe if it was split, ALT0a could be used without Gigi Perez bolded, and then ALT1 for the second DYK? Otherwise, if they are not split, ALT0a seems good. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 5

Come In (Weatherday album)

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  • ... that several characters from a webcomic Weatherday wrote appear in their album Come In?
  • Source: [9] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life. The character Agatha is from that comic and same with Oswald and Ines."
  • ALT1: ... that after the original run sold out, vinyl copies of Come In were put up for sale on Discogs for as much as $100? Source: [10] "Last year, U.S. indie label Topshelf, a crucial fourth-wave emo outlet, dropped a double-LP reissue of Come In, and the whole run of 2,000 sold out—if you want a pristine copy, be prepared to pony up $100 on Discogs."
  • ALT2: ... that Come In was recorded on a hands-free microphone attached to a pair of headphones? Source: [11] "I used the headphone mic because I didn’t have a better one and thought I could do without one."
    Album liner notes (viewable on Bandcamp) "Honorable mention to the hands-free mic attached to my headphones which I recorded this album on"
  • ALT3: ... that Come In was inspired by a webcomic that Weatherday wrote? Source: [12] "Mio is a character from a webcomic I made back in 2016-2017 [...] I used Mio on the album cover cause I drew inspiration from the webcomic when I was making the album"
    [13] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life."
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I created the page in the draftspace and OhHaiMark moved it into the mainspace. This is my first DYK nomination and first time building up an article, please let me know if I did anything wrong!
Moved to mainspace by OhHaiMark (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

LeMeilleurMiel (talk) 21:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I guess. Full review needed.--Launchballer 23:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moses da Rieti

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Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

cc @User:GordonGlottal Andre🚐 19:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Or you could just replace "terza rima" with "rhyming verse form" in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Andre🚐 18:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A drive-by comment: this has the perennial form of "first" hooks, that even though we may have sources calling them first, there's a high likelihood of WP:ERRORS when someone notices the hook and remembers the existence of someone else using terza rima in Hebrew at an earlier date, overlooked by our source. To forestall this, can we maybe rewrite the hook to avoid the word "first"? Something like
—David Eppstein (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind that, but I think it's rather unlikely that someone will find another example of it, since Dante died in 1321 and Moses was born in 1388, and there are precious few remaining manuscripts from that time to begin with, though I suppose it's not entirely out of the question that a cache of codices will be found in some Vatican annex basement or a Dead Sea caves situation. For reference, the source (Dvora Bregman) says Rieti was, in fact, the first Hebrew poet to use this form, and through his influence it was incorporated into Hebrew poetry by his successors. Andre🚐 00:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 6

Empirical Labs Distressor

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Two Empirical Labs Distressors
Two Empirical Labs Distressors
ALT1: ... that the Empirical Labs Distressor (pictured) went from selling poorly to being described as ubiquitous as a coffee machine?
    • Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by The Midnite Wolf (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

The Midnite Wolf (talk) 11:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@The Midnite Wolf: Please address the above.--Launchballer 23:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I think all of those musicians are pretty well known? Maroon 5 has had five albums peak at either #1 or #2 in the US, Kali Uchis had an album at #2, and Wilco has had two albums at #4. That said, I've added an alternate hook. The Midnite Wolf (talk) 03:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hooks need to be interesting to a broad audience, and I've never heard of Wilco and only know Uchis as the partner of Don Toliver. Full review needed.--Launchballer 07:36, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Drive-by comment (not to be taken seriously): in skimming recent nominations too quickly, I misread this hook as being "Did you know ... that the Empirical Labs Distressor went from being a poorly selling effects unit to being a ubiquitous coffee machine?" Now that would be a hook-worthy transformation! Too bad it's not very accurate. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review follows:

  • Article is long enough and new enough
  • QPQ exempt
  • Earwig doesn't call out anything of concern
  • Sourcing seems reasonable
  • Image is CC licensed and would work fine at the main page size.
  • ALT0 verifies and is approved. ALT1 seems overly wordy so not approved.
RoySmith (talk) 23:11, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Michael Sugrue

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  • ... that Michael Sugrue became an "internet phenomenon" during the COVID-19 pandemic for his lectures on YouTube covering "the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history” recorded in 1992?
  • Source: "Michael Sugrue, 66, Dies; His Talks on Philosophy Were a YouTube Hit

After an academic career spent in near obscurity, he became an internet phenomenon during the pandemic by uploading talks he had given three decades earlier.

The college lecturer, in a uniform of rumpled khakis and corduroy blazer, paces on a small stage, head down. “The lectures you’re about to see,” he says in introducing a series of talks, videotaped in somewhat hokey lo-fi style in 1992, “cover the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history.""

NY Times
Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk), GuardianH (talk), and Etyuxdy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 142 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 17:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

1917 Łódź City Council election

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Campaign poster for the 1917 Łódź City Council election
  • ... that whilst socialists got 31% of the votes in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured), they only won five seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?
  • Source: Telma Tadeusz. Pierwsze wybory do Rady Miejskiej m. Łodzi, in Rocznik Łódzki, Vol. 11 (14). Państwowe Wydawnictwu Naukowe, 1966. pp. 134, 138-146, Antoni Goerne. Wybory do Rady Miejskiej w Lodzi w styczniu 1917, in Informator m Lodzi z kalendarzem na rok 1919. pp. 76-83
Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 396 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'm not taking on the review, but just leaving a comment, as I'm puzzled. Without context, this may not be hook-notable I believe. The question left unaddressed is five seats out of how many. If it is five seats out of 15, this would seen rather non-notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I went back and forth on the wording of the sentence, but with the 200 characters cap it is difficult to get all nuances and factoids included. For me "only five" implies that it is less than proportional, but a rewording could be to replace "five seats" with "8%". --Soman (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed: No - The licensing is incorrect, at issue is not the photograph copyright but the poster itself ({{PD-1923}} in the United States, not sure about Poland)—then you can use {{PD-scan}}
  • Used in article: Yes
  • Clear at 100px: No - all you can see is a number 5
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article looks mostly fine, but I'm not sure about the hook. Non-proportional electoral systems are typical outside of continental Europe, where proportional representation based systems are more common. First past the post can cause equal amount of distortion. (t · c) buidhe 04:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the clarity of image, I selected precisely because it had symbolism that was readable even at 100px. I don't think we'd expect people to read the fine print, but in 100px the number 5 is clearly visible (5 times) and the largest text is readable ('vote for our list'). The designer of the poster wanted that a reader catch the number 5 clearly even from a distance. --Soman (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My point is that many electoral systems intentionally or not result in disproportionate seats for certain parties at the expense of others, thus it cannot really be a surprising fact that this particular electoral system has that result. (t · c) buidhe 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know a bit about how pre-German Revolution electoral systems worked in Germany (and as you've written here, applied to occupied territories), but the average reader doesn't. So I think if you are going to take that angle, it needs to be more clear in the hook. (t · c) buidhe 22:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soman: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about ALT3 - "... that the class-based curiae system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionately favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties?" --Soman (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)?[reply]
@Buidhe: Please address the above.--Launchballer 11:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 7

Teleke Lauti

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  • ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister with a campaign managed by a former Prime Minister?
  • ALT1: ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister, was unseated himself by a future Prime Minister, and later ran again to replace a former Prime Minister? Source: same for 'unseated a former Prime Minister'; lost to Latasi and Kausea Natano (future PM) in 2002 (could add another source verifying Natano as being a future PM if needed); Fenui News for running to replace a former PM (Latasi in 2018)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edward J. York
  • Comment: Open to other ways of wording. Would like it if it could be featured by the end of the month, prior to the end of the Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest (since I'm competing with the Tuvalu flag).
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 246 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough, long enough, QPQ done. We're treading around describing the political system slightly, but it can be pieced together. A source is needed in the article for the future PM part. Work on climate change should be mentioned in the lead. He may have been assistant Minsiter(?) but that may all need a deeper investigation. CMD (talk) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Chipmunkdavis: I added a source for the future PM and expanded the lead a little to mention climate change. As for assistant minister, that source does seem to say that but then there are also several sources referring to him as "Teleke Lauti, Minister for the Environment" (including another UN publication) – he's so obscure, its hard to tell. I'm leaning towards keeping 'Minister for the Environment' though as there seems to be more sources saying that than 'Assistant Minister for the Environment'. Is that everything? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

48th Hong Kong International Film Festival

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Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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  1. ^ "國際電影節突取消放映《去年煙花特別多》 陳果感可惜：咩都可以發生" [[Hong Kong] International Film Festival Suddenly Cancels Screening of The Longest Summer — Fruit Chan Expresses Regret: Anything Could Happen.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 9 March 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. 原定在第四十八屆香港國際電影節中放映的《去年煙花特別多》日前突然取消，主辦方指「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」，改爲放映電影《墮胎師》。該電影由本港獨立電影導演陳果執導，他回覆本報查詢說，對於《去年》未能放映感到可惜，又稱近日才接獲電影節通知指沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映，不清楚是否涉及其他原因。《去年》於1998年上映，與《香港製造》及《細路祥》合稱「九七三部曲」，以香港主權移交及華裔英兵故事作爲背景，電影中亦穿插主權移交及解放軍入城等片段。 [The screening of The Longest Summer, originally scheduled for the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival, was suddenly canceled. The organizers stated that it could not be shown "due to the inability to locate suitable copies", and the film The Abortionist will be screened instead. Directed by local independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, he responded to [Ming Pao's] inquiry by expressing regret that The Longest Summer could not be screened. He mentioned that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available, and he is unsure if there are other reasons involved. The Longest Summer was released in 1998 and is part of the "1997 Trilogy," along with Made in Hong Kong and Little Cheung. It sets against the backdrop of Hong Kong's sovereignty handover and stories of Chinese-ethnic British soldiers. The film also features segments about the handover and the arrival of the People's Liberation Army.]
  2. ^ "「找不到合適拷貝」 國際電影節撤播《去年煙花特別多 》" ["Unable to Find Suitable Copies": International Film Festival Withdraws Screening of The Longest Summer.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 10 March 2024. Archived from the original on 9 September 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. 第48屆香港國際電影節本月28日開幕，由獨立電影導演陳果執導的《去年煙花特別多》突然被取消放映，改為放映同由陳果執導的《墮胎師》。主辦方在電影節節目及訂票手冊中稱「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」。陳果昨回覆本報稱，對於《去》未能放映感可惜，近日才接獲電影節通知稱沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映，不清楚是否涉其他原因。翻查資料，《去》曾於2017年在香港藝術中心古天樂電影院放映，當年主辦方與今屆電影節主辦方同為香港國際電影節協會（HKIFF）。《去》2021年也曾在兆基創意書院放映室放映，播放的是35mm菲林拷貝。 [The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival opened on the 28th of this month. The screening of The Longest Summer, directed by independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, was suddenly canceled, and it was replaced with The Abortionist, also directed by Fruit Chan. The organizers stated in the festival program and ticketing booklet that it could not be screened "due to the inability to locate suitable copies". Chan expressed regret over the cancellation of The Longest Summer, stating that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available and is unsure if there are other reasons involved. According to records, The Longest Summer was previously screened in 2017 at the Hong Kong Arts Centre's Gigi Leung Cinema, with the same organizers as this year's festival, the Hong Kong International Film Festival Society (HKIFF). The film was also screened in 2021 at Lee Shau Kee School of Creativity, using a 35mm film copy.]
  3. ^ Lo, Zabrina (20 March 2024). "Karena Lam on the lack of gender equality in the local film industry, and her ambassadorships with French May and Hong Kong International Film Festival". Tatler Asia. Archived from the original on March 29, 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. To say Taiwanese Canadian actress Karena Lam has a packed calendar is an understatement. This year, she replaces Aaron Kwok as the ambassador of the Hong Kong International Film Festival which will take place from March 28 to April 8—becoming the second woman to be offered this position since actress Miriam Yeung in 2011.
  • Comment: @Prince of Erebor: I like what you are trying to accomplish here. Two things stand out right away: 1) I think you can easily shorten ALT0, which is very interesting to me, and 2) The basic outline of ALT0 appears in the first paragraph of the "Pan-Chinese Cinema > Filmmaker in Focus" section, but it is far from explicit and barely matches the proposed hook. While I certainly encourage paraphrasing and rewriting as you have done, there does need to be a minimum baseline of text-source integrity that is obvious to the casual reader. I think we can make immediate progress on this nom if you consider shortening ALT0 and making it match the article. 199 characters for what you are trying to say is excessive to me. Viriditas (talk) 22:31, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival is the 2024 edition of the Hong Kong International Film Festival
  • I'm not convinced we need this kind of duplication or redundancy in the lead. The way we usually do it in articles about film festivals is title followed by date. Example: "The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival took place from 28 March to 8 April 2024". Or for another example: "The 96th Academy Awards ceremony, presented by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), took place on March 10, 2024, at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, Los Angeles." Viriditas (talk) 20:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A new section, the CAA China Genre Initiative Projects
  • Overview
  • Keep in mind, we aren't supposed to use "overview" sections, as the lead is supposed to be an overview. Consider changing the name to "background", "history", or something similar. Viriditas (talk) 21:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Review


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: ALT0 is my first choice. Yes, it is very long, but attempts to shorten it and preserve the context have been unsuccessful. I don’t find ALT1 all that interesting, but it’s an ironic reversal of the "first" hook cliche. Everything else checks out. Page was long enough when it was nominated. Earwig shows no issues. Hook is cited and interesting. Good to go. Viriditas (talk) 21:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Falcón state, Monument to the Venezuelan Federation

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Flag of Falcón state
Flag of Falcón state
Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 398 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 14:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Abraham Hamadeh

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  • Comment: My first DYK nomination, I'm confident I did this right but I'm still welcome to suggestions!
5x expanded by DukeOfDelTaco (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

DukeOfDelTaco (talk) 05:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 8

Tore Skeie

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  • ... that Tore Skeie's first book, written while he faced severe financial hardship, won him a prize of NOK 100,000?
Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 00:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Jewish dairy restaurant

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Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Andre🚐 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a full review, but the interesting thing about the article is the fact that Jewish dairy restaurants even exist in the first place, considering kosher laws. I'd suggest proposing hooks that focus specifically on that aspect, as least as possible options for the promoter, as the mere concept of the Jewish dairy restaurant is the elephant in the room here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Could you elaborate what you mean? Dairy restaurants are kosher. That is the entire point of them. The laws say not to mix milk and meat, that's why there isn't any meat at a dairyrestaurant. Andre🚐 12:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a non-Jew myself, I just thought that the actual concept was interesting by itself. It might not be as obvious to observant Jews of course since they may take it for granted, but especially to people from places where Jews are not very visible it might be unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes, I see what you mean. Yeah maybe there could be an ALT1 like:
A bit long perhaps? Andre🚐 14:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:DYKTRIM it could be shortened to something like "... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food that accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?" Would that be okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure sounds good. Andre🚐 00:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do think the original hook is interesting, I only mentioned the suggestion above so that it could be offered as an option. It's probably best for a reviewer to make the final decision. I've slightly modified the original hook to give Trotsky's full name since not all readers may know who he is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might be safer to leave it to another editor to do the actual review of the article content, although you can probably do some of the more technical aspects like article creation, hook interest, etc. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I thought that was part of the review! Andre🚐 01:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the one hand, I disagree with Narutolovehinata5, as I think they could have done the review themselves just as much as I could. But, on the other hand, I admire someone who takes the neutrality principle to such an extreme, and you have to respect that even if you personally disagree with it. With that said, such a position can also have unintended consequences, such as leading to the timing out of this nom due to such high-minded principles. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would it help if I review some DYKs that are in the backlog? Andre🚐 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're very much encouraged to do so, especially since any review can be used in the future once you are required to provide QPQs. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did a few! Andre🚐 23:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • To clarify Viriditas's concern, the reason I asked for a new review is more out of check-and-balance reasons. Personally I have a preference ALT1 (the straightforward hook), but others may disagree and think that the Trotsky angle is more interesting (and personally I do also find it interesting). Normally what I could have done is to approve both hooks and leave it to the promoter, but given how torn I am over the options I thought bringing in a third-party editor to give their own opinion would also help reach a proper consensus. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You’re not wrong; both hooks are good. Although I have only managed to vet ALT0. If you can vet ALT1, do the review, pass both, and let the approver decide on which hook to use. Viriditas (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you both. I think we'd probably be able to verify ALT1 using the Ben Katchor book, The Dairy Restaurant, which I have in physical form. It's a surrealist trip, complete with lots of old menus and ads for dairy restaurants. I'll check and see if there's a succinct definition that we can use and what page that is on. Andre🚐 23:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Or actually, the NYT review of the book should do it: The subjects of Mr. Katchor’s new book, “The Dairy Restaurant” (Schocken, $29.95), were community cornerstones: cheap, filling refuges that made it possible for Jewish immigrants in New York to eat out according to kosher laws, by keeping milk and meat strictly separated, with fish, eggs and vegetables as neutral go-betweens. Good enough? If not, I'll check the book, though I can't do it tonight. Andre🚐 23:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really torn about what to write here. As a resident of the Bronx, I find ALT0 to be a wonderful hook. I had no idea Trotsky ever lived in the Bronx. The idea that I've literally walked down the block where he ate his meals just blows my mind. BTW, I found an ad for the Triangle Dairy Restaurant in the Daily Worker, https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/pubs/dailyworker/1929/1929-ny/v05-n344-NY-feb-08-1929-DW-LOC.pdf, page 3, rightmost column. And a photograph. But, WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE says avoid hooks that are primarily about an incident the subject is only tangentially related to which would seem to rule out the Trotsky hook. Still, it's such a great hook, I'd say WP:IAR and use it. RoySmith (talk) 23:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, very cool finds. "Comrades, Patronize The Triangle Dairy Restaurant." Love it. Andre🚐 23:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added a fact to the article, from a cited NYT review of the book, which could make a good hook: ... that growth of Jewish dairy restaurants was aided by better commercial refrigeration and periodic "meat strikes" against the high cost of kosher butchers? ProfGray (talk) 04:52, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is an interesting tidbit, but it feels like it would be hard to properly explain within the space of a hook, the meat strikes I mean. The refrigeration thing is also interesting. I mean I guess it's a hook that pulls you in and says, what the heck do you mean, meat strikes? But then we don't really explain what they actually did or were in the article ... yet..., but it may be difficult to do so. I'll have to see what Katchor says about it in the full text. Andre🚐 05:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Andrevan, what about going after the quirky angle that emphasizes the unique pluralism of America and the distinct melting pot culture of New York? Something along the lines of "...that one of the few, last remaining Jewish dairy restaurants in New York's East Village is run by an Egyptian Muslim and Polish Catholic couple?" Of course, that would require updating the article.[17][18] Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is a great fact, though it's more about B&H Dairy. While I did include it in that article, I omitted it from this one, though not intentionally. We could shove it into this article but I'm not sure that I like it better than the Trotsky hook or the Narutolovehinata5 special edition straightforward hook. Also, ProfGray figured out about the meat strikes, they were the 1902 kosher meat boycott. That could make that fact usable. Andre🚐 23:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I found a place to sneak it into the article and it went in easier than I thought, so you have a Viriditas special edition pluralistic ALT4.[1] Andre🚐 23:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 9

Funnyback

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1928 Funnyback
1928 Funnyback
  • ... that people referred to the 1928 US$1 silver certificate as a Funnyback (pictured)?
Moved to mainspace by Bruxton (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 154 past nominations.

Bruxton (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced and neutral. Earwig picks up some links, but these are quotations, so it's copy vio free. Hooks are cited and interesting. I prefer ALT0 and ALT3. Pic is free, used and clear. QPQ is done. All good. Lajmmoore (talk) 08:36, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alison Creagh

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Alison Creagh
Alison Creagh
Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 431 past nominations.

Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment (not a review). The COI banner on the article (with circumstances detailed on the article talk page) needs to be resolved before this can feature in DYK. Cleanup banners are not intended as a permanent mark of shame for articles, but rather to indicate that something can and should be cleaned up. The question then becomes: do the circumstances described on the talk page mean that there is a COI that should be cleaned up? What must be done to the article to clean it up so this banner can be removed? —David Eppstein (talk) 00:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:WTRMT: neutrality-related templates such as {{COI}} (associated with the conflict of interest guideline) or {{POV}} (associated with the neutral point of view policy) strongly recommend that the tagging editor initiate a discussion (generally on the article's talk page) to support the placement of the tag. If the tagging editor failed to do so, or the discussion is dormant, and there is no other support for the template, it can be removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you dispute the COI? Or should I have placed a "paid editor" tag instead? This DYK should siomply be closed, as we shouldn't have such "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" promotion. To quote from a question (not from me) from your 2019 RfA: "In one of the arbitration cases which resulted in a finding against you, there was a finding involving an undisclosed conflict-of-interest that resulted in serious subversion of the FA process. " We here have the same editor with an undisclosed COI at DYK. Here you start wikiwlawyering about the tag (even though I started a discussion about it on the talk page right away, where you haven't responded). Fram (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There was no such finding, and there was no undisclosed COI. What there is is an editor pursuing a pattern of harassment that got them blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you really claiming that you have no COI wrt this article now? Or that the finding (passed 10 to 0) that " Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) has a previously undisclosed conflict of interest [...]" didn't exist? Or both? Fram (talk) 10:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There was no undisclosed conflict of interest. I have never edited for pay. I was an unpaid Wikipedian in Residence with Paralympics Australia. I have only met the brigadier twice: at the Boccia, where the Chef de Mission introduced us and we talked about our work at Paris 2024, and at the Rowing three days later, when I asked for a photograph, which I took and is used in the article. Please cease the personal attacks on myself and David Eppstein, who was only posting a comment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An organisation offers you all kind of help so you can write better or more articles about an event they are heavily involved in, and you then write an article about the CEO of that organisation. How is that not a blatant COI? And I have not made any personal attacks about you, and I haven't made any comment whatsoever about David Eppstein, so I have no idea where you see any personal attacks on them. Anyway, I'll raise this at the COIN board. Fram (talk) 18:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Without getting into whether or not this should run, WP:DYKTAG explicitly allows articles with COI tags.--Launchballer 23:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David de Pomis

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Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Andre🚐 01:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough and long enough. Hook and source checks. QPQ checks. I have some concerns about prose for general audience readers:
  • "his father lost his fortune in the wars." - what wars?
  • "Legend has it his family" - this is a bit vague and I'm not sure about the tone either. The wording in one of the sources (According to an ancient tradition of the Jews of Italy...) is much, much better. Can you reword to something similar (or maybe even place that in quotes if you have to)?
  • "Pope Paul IV's bull prevented" - what is a "bull" in this context? Can you clarify, or give an appropriate Wikilink?
@Andrevan: Happy to pass once these minor issues are addressed. Damien Linnane (talk) 23:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review. Looks like you figured out about the papal bull. I've performed the requested clarification and copyedits. One thing is that one of the sources refers to the recurring wars in Italy, presumably the Italian Wars in the Papal States, while the other sources relay the story about fleeing the Sack of Rome (1527), which was during one specific war. Since I'm not entirely sure if there are any other recurring wars that affected Pomis' father other than the incident we know about, after all, someone could lose a fortune over several events, I've changed it to just talk about the Sack of Rome unless I can find another source that talks about any wars, plural other than that which affected him. Hope that works! Let me know if you have anything else. Andre🚐 00:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, since I already discuss the Sack in the next sentence down, I'm going to just leave that 2nd part and make it just in the Italian Wars. Since it says his father lost his fortune in his youth, it must be talking about 2 different series of events. Andre🚐 02:01, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your prompt responses. The changes look good. This is ready to go. :) Damien Linnane (talk) 02:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Middlesex Regiment alien labour units

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  • Source: Although all eight were described as "Alien" companies, the originals were formed from the sons of foreign nationals, however from 1918 actual foreign nationals were used to form three companies , see eg: "the Director of Labour in France was informed that all Russians and other aliens whom 'it was not desirable to retain with fighting units' were to be sent to the Middlesex Regiment base depot at Etaples. Apart from the Russians, they were to be posted to the Middlesex Infantry Labour Companies ... This enabled three more Middlesex Labour companies to be formed." from: Messenger, Charles (30 April 2015). Call to Arms: The British Army 1914-18. Orion. p. 121. ISBN 978-1-78022-759-7.
Created by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 875 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 11:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 10

Articles created/expanded on September 11

It's OK I'm OK

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Created by MaranoFan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 74 past nominations.

NØ 07:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


New hooks provided above. Ping to Sarvagyana guru in case you are interested in continuing the review.--NØ 09:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shin Iza Gawna

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Statue of Shin Iza Gawna.
Statue of Shin Iza Gawna.
Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

agreed! Thanks for new hook but full review needed. Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, please... I have an image of the monk's statue, and I’m trying to find it in my iCloud. I will upload it to Wiki Commons soon. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Photo added. It's good time to full review. Hteiktinhein (talk) 16:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 12

Charles Biasiny-Rivera

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Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 143 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 20:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Yes
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - My one concern would be that the article sentence about driving the Volkswagen around the neighborhoods is a close paraphrase of the source sentence. I'm not sure how big of an issue it is or how else it could be worded though, so I'll defer to what someone with more experience than me says.
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Would appreciate someone else taking a look as this is my first DYK review. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:21, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cannonball (MILW train)

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The Cannonball in Milwaukee, 1966
The Cannonball in Milwaukee, 1966
  • ... that Milwaukee, Wisconsin, had a commuter train nicknamed the Cannonball operating between suburban Watertown until 1972?
  • Source: Sanders, Craig (2006). Amtrak in the Heartland. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-253-34705-3
  • Reviewed:
Created by Central Corridor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Central Corridor (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi @Central Corridor:, and welcome to DYK. I'm not doing a full review, but I will provide you with some feedback to help out. Firstly, I have tagged some uncited statements in the article that will need to be cited before this article can pass DYK per WP:DYKCITE. Second, I think the proposed hook will not meet the interesting requirement. It simply states a basic fact that even I, someone obsessed with trains to the point they're in my username, do not find particularly interesting. Fortunately, there are some things in the article that we can use to support a better hook. I was drawn to the sentence "The Cannonball gained a reputation for parties that frequently occurred on the Friday night train outbound from Milwaukee. Passengers brought aboard drinks to share, a band played, and the train often held at intermediate stops to replenish beer and ice."
Based on that sentence, here's my proposed hook: "... that despite being an ordinary commuter train, the Cannonball was often the site of parties with a live band and drinks on Friday nights?"
One other idea would be a hook about how 89% of riders on the pilot program said they would keep riding the train, yet it still wasn't restored. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Franklin Shumard

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Oak species named after Benjamin F. Shumard
Oak species named after Benjamin F. Shumard
  • ... that an assistant to Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard named an oak species in his honor, but then foiled his reinstatement after he was let go by newly-elected Governor Sam Houston?
  • Source: in his honor: Buckley, Samuel Botsford (1860). "Description of Several New Species of Plants". Proc. Acad. Nat. Sci. Philadelphia. 12 (published 1861): 443–445 – via JSTOR.

got him fired, see page 7, line 4 of this source: Roessler, A. R. "Reply to the charges made by SB Buckley, State Geologist of Texas, in his official report of 1874, against Dr. BF Shumard and AR Roessler." (1875). https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/bc3d474b-4e53-4980-8240-9b48ba20b33d/content

see also: p.144 (p2 of pdf): Young, Keith (1994-01-01). "The Shumards in Texas". Earth Sciences History. 13 (2): 143–153.
    • ALT1: ... that Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard had an oak species named in his honor by an assistant in 1860, who then stymied Shumard's reappointment by Texas Governor Sam Houston? Source: same as above, trying different wording
    • Reviewed:
Created by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

ProfGray (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: Hello, professor! I like what you are trying to do, but we want to avoid writing a cell phone novel. Let's also try to drill down and figure out what is interesting. First thing that caught my eye was that this man was a practicing geologist and a practicing physician! That's unusual and interesting, don't you think? He was a State Geologist for Texas and a professor of obstetrics at the University of Missouri! That kind of thing would be unheard of today. Further, you mention he was involved in several geological controversies and his research was expanded upon by others. I feel that you are not giving us the most interesting parts of the article. :-) Viriditas (talk) 22:59, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

U Wasawa

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Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hello Hteiktinhein! DYK is user driven, with various incentives to review hooks such as to complete their QPQ, interest, or simply goodwill. Predominantly foreign-language sourced articles or longer articles tend to take time to review due to the necessity to verify the various points. It is important to understand that, because sometimes it can take hours or even months, with no guarantee on the article being reviewed as soon as you want it to. Patience is important, and it is important to keep in mind there is no inherent rush for the nomination to move forward once it has been put out there. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 13

Nobody Knows (Shawn Mendes song)

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Converted from a redirect by CatchMe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 75 past nominations.

NØ 05:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Virginia Beach Police Department

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Created by SSBelfastFanatic (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Erin (SSBelfastFanatic) (talk) 16:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Promising factoid, but with no provided citation to back it up here. Article was created 15 days ago (on September 3)—a week and change beyond the normal eligibility deadline—but became an AFC graduate on the 13th, so at least we're good here. Said article also has a {{more sources needed section}} banner, which fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE and might as well be addressed ASAP. To the editor now known as @PhoenixCaelestis: As far as your DYK skills are concerned, you're starting to get there, and with two go-rounds in this arena so far, I'll forgive you for that. Wishing you luck next time, and best of editing! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 12:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Slgrandson: I have solved the tag by yeeting the whole section and several others, that one per WP:DUE.--Launchballer 14:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Articles created/expanded on September 15

Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences

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The "neuron screen" at the Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences
The "neuron screen" at the Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences
  • Source: Overlaid with gleaming 21st-century filigree, this esthetic delight hints at pattern and order, embedded in randomness. “They are Henry Markram’s neurons – or rather, from his rat brains,” explains Segev, “and we at ELSC had the idea of this neuron trellis wrapping round the building.” https://www.jpost.com/Jerusalem-Report/In-sickness-and-in-health-540756
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  • Comment: I am trying to find a better image to illustrate the neuron screen
Created by Simxaraba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Simxaraba (talk) 07:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I have now added what I think is a better image of the neuron screen. I can come up with another hook if this one is not good enough.Simxaraba (talk) 09:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is new enough, long enough, has size and references are fine, and the hook works well. QPQ isn't required. I think the other picture in the article might show the facade with the neural network detail more clearly, so it could be a better fit. Anyway, we're all set! Mariamnei (talk) 10:34, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly add a media marker—i.e., (pictured)— in the approved hook so that it may be promoted along with your preferred image. Speaking of which, do you agree with the reviewer's suggestion? If so, consider including it in this page. Thanks, Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 16:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since the nominator has been inactive for two weeks now, I'm just gonna go ahead and boldly do these myself. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 07:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nathania Ong

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Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 171 past nominations.

KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: that's a reasonable point, though this was what I deemed to be the most interesting "factoid" in the article. And even if it really were the case (that this is "actually not uncommon"), how many times have such hooks appeared on DYK? It sure can't beat the river-related hooks of yesteryear 😆 KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Marcks

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Marie Marcks in 2006
Marie Marcks in 2006
  • ... that Marie Marcks (pictured) was called "the Grande Dame of political cartoons in Germany"?
Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

Munfarid1 (talk) 11:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article was nominated on time and is long enough. The article isn't perfect but is in decent condition. Earwig found a lot of close phrasing which I think could be reduced quite easily. Hooks are cited and interesting, ALT 1 needs to make clear that it is an opinion. Llewee (talk) 11:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ok, I have added the person whose opinion is quoted in ALT 1, if this is what you mean. Also, I have rewritten the close paraphrases as far as possible. Several proper names highlighted by Earwig, however, such as Deutsches Museum für Karikatur und Zeichenkunst, Mark Twain Center for Transatlantic Relations or New Frankfurt School can not be counted as copyright infringement, as far as I know. The overall score in Earwig now is 11,5% with most of the identical words being such proper names. Thanks for your review, and I hope this makes it gtg. Munfarid1 (talk) 14:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Hello Llewee, sorry, the necessary change of ALT 1 was my fault. Just corrected it and restored ALT. Munfarid1 (talk) 15:06, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]




Articles created/expanded on September 16

Ready Set Learn!

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The initials of this block's home network once stood for "The Learning Channel", but as you shall soon see, there's a reason they also stand for "tender loving care".
Yet another revamp of yet another long-neglected kidvid article (after last month's stint on The Book of Virtues). And by "long-neglected", there are no kind words for how much this got dragged across the mud over the first 18 years of its existence, suffering the slings and arrows of IPs and vandals with no substantial improvement--or serious research--in sight. To the point where TenPoundHammer (talk · contribs) and Liz (talk · contribs) put the old version out of its misery by May 2022 per WP:NTV. Quoting the former:
"Tagged for notability since 2013. Program blocks are far less likely to be notable on their own, and I see no reason for this one to be so."
Not for long, though.
One night last week, I came across Kenny the Shark's status report at this page on TV Tropes--which had me wondering about a demographically related Discovery property, the one I've nominated right now. Looking up Ready Set Learn! InPrivate, I was astonished there was no article on the block, only to learn it had been deleted some time ago. Plan of action: Search it up at WP:Library ProQuest, invoke WP:THREE at WP:RFUD, and hope for the best. And you can easily guess what happened next till this Monday and beyond--complete with official exclamation mark, and proof of its CableACE win back in 1995. (Rehabbed through the AFC process.)
Don't know what to say next...other than I may need another cooldown from WP eventually. (Besides, I'm trying to get a long-gestating NaNoWriMo project of mine rejuvenated off-WP today or tomorrow.) Or maybe not, as my AFC queue will quickly prove; I feel like taking a stab at a couple of pre-queue efforts before this week's over. Once again, see you back soon with another kidlit pick.
From one of this block's fellow viewers in the Commonwealth of Dominica back then (through the Marpin cable service).
Wikitrivia note: Short27265 (talk · contribs) was a single-purpose account from mid-November 2004 with only two edits to their name, both page creations: for Peep and the Big Wide World, and the subject of this DYK pitch (which it aired on).
5x expanded by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 13:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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Articles created/expanded on September 17

Law of reentry

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  • Source: "Mr. Irwin Smith [...] has demonstrated conclusively that all the apparent exceptions to the "Law of Reentry" be explained and justified in one way or another. His thesis, which I take to be unexceptionable, provides the clinching proof that Macbeth is not the Third Murderer" — The Third Murderer in Macbeth
  • ALT1: ... that the law of reentry is cited as an explanation for a character's abrupt exit off the stage in Richard II? Source: "Almost the only “rule” in London theater that was still faithfully followed was the one we now call, for convenience, the law of reentry [...]. Thus, in Richard II, John of Gaunt makes an abrupt and awkward departure purely to be able to take part in a vital scene that follows." — Shakespeare: The World as Stage; also discussed in Their Exits and Reentrances, p. 9 and Shakespeare's Hand in "The Second Maiden's Tragedy" p. 5
  • ALT2: ... that because of the law of reentry, characters in Elizabethan theatre could not leave the stage at the end of a scene and immediately reenter in the next? Source: "Finally, a word may be said about Prolss' "Law of Re-entry" as it bears upon the matter of act-intermissions. Briefly the law is this: Characters leaving the stage at the end of a scene to reappear at another locality are, to avoid confusion, not permitted to re-enter immediately" — The "Act Time" in Elizabethan Theatres
  • ALT3: ... that some scholars believe many scenes in English Renaissance plays include "speeches or even scenes otherwise unnecessary" to avoid violating the law of reentry? Source: "Neuendorff considers Prölsz's Law of Re-entry (that no character shall leave the stage and immediately re-enter if the scene is meanwhile supposed to have changed) at some length, and finds it of the greatest influence upon dramatic construction. It accounts for the many scenes beginning or ending with a monologue, and for the insertion of speeches or even scenes otherwise unnecessary." — What We Know of the Elizabethan Stage
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  • Comment: Since this article deals with something governing the way characters exit and enter the stage in English Renaissance plays, I'm not actually sure if any of these run afoul of the "must focus on a real-world fact" thing, so I've provided a lot of hooks.
5x expanded by TenTonParasol (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~Cheers, TenTonParasol 03:17, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 18

The United States of America (album)

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  • ALT1: ... that the title of the 1968 album The United States of America was intended to be a political statement akin to "hanging the flag upside down"?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Had to find an alternate source that I could easily link to as the article uses a book source
Improved to Good Article status by Iostn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Iostn (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Talk Talk (Charli XCX song)

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Converted from a redirect by Jackedano (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 251 past nominations.

Launchballer 02:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 19

Chauncey Archiquette

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  • Source: Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe (Thorpe said "[Archiquette] was my football idol and in our scrub games with the homemade football I always tried to emulate him") / Carlisle Vs. Army ("[Thorpe] was particularly taken with the team's star runner, an Indian boy named Chauncey Archiquette ... One day, Thorpe told himself, I'm going to be as tough as Chauncey ... [Thorpe, after watching practice] raced back and forth over the empty field, zigging here, zagging there, trying to emulate his idol.")
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 247 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here: don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject. And for what it's worth, I made a bit of an informal survey about this on Discord, and the three editors who responded said they didn't know who Thorpe is. Note that my thoughts about the hook are independent of the survey; in fact, I made the survey because I wanted to know if American editors might find the hook interesting and to check my own thoughts. As for the nomination itself, the safest option here is probably to try a completely different angle. While ALT1 is arguably a better option, as you said, it loses some of the punch with the additional context. Thorpe is no Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan to warrant the angle, methinks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deutscher Kurzwellensender Atlantik

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  • Source: "In March 1943, the Political Warfare Executive at Woburn Abbey began broadcasting from two radio stations, Deutscher Kurzwellensender Atlantik and Soldatenseder Calais. These purported to be authentic German transmitters, but in fact had been developed to undermine German morale, and in particular to target U-boat crews ... The objective was to subvert the discipline of enemy submariners by providing continuous first-class music, news, and feature programs every night between 1830 and 0800. Interspersed with German dance bands and singers recorded in the United States, Atlantik spread rumors, issued depressing news bulletins, and generally sought to destroy the seamen's faith in their leadership by contradicting what they had heard from Germany on official channels." from: West, Nigel (2010). Historical Dictionary of Naval Intelligence. Rowman & Littlefield. pp. 90–91. ISBN 978-0-8108-6760-4.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 880 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 13:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Dumelow: Another interesting article and perfect for DYK. I prefer ALT0 as interesting and confirmed with citation in the article based on the pull out detailed under the hook. I suggest adding the dates that this station operated in the lead. It was nominated seven days after creation so it is new enough and at 6371 characters it is long enough. The QPQ is done and Earwig does not find evidence of plagiarism. We could use some attention on a few minor things prior to approval.
  1. I suggest adding the dates that this station was operating somewhere in the lead and body.
  2. MOS:AMPM I think it should be: 6 am 8 am, and should the word broadcast be broadcasted? Here is the sentence: "It broadcast between 6pm and 8am daily on a number of shortwave channels".
  3. Maybe other words for the phrase "to this end" as it feels conversational and is an informal idiom. Here is the sentence: "To this end some of the staff were German defectors, including Otto John, Richard Wurmann". Maybe "In order to achieve this goal" or something similar.
  4. Sentence in the article: "To make the station attractive to listeners it broadcast the latest in popular dance music" Same question about the word broadcast
  5. Sentence "it might involve an attempt for vessels to break out to the far east" should Far East be capitalized? and linked to Far East. I cannot access the source so not sure if it is the same thing.
Bruxton (talk) 20:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bruxton, thanks for the review. I have made the edits you've suggested. I held off on the "broadcast" ones as Arjayay picked up on one already ("broadcasted" -> "broadcast"). I don't do much in the radio sphere so will defer to them (and perhaps Sammi Brie as the resident DYK radio expert might assist?). Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 21:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Broadcast" as a past-tense verb is perfectly fine and preferred to "broadcasted". Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:27, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dumelow: Thank you for the quick action. And @Sammi Brie: thank you for looking, I was unsure. Bruxton (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Chris Woodrich, fine by me - Dumelow (talk) 11:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 20

Kesaria Abramidze

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Kesaria Abramidze in 2020
Kesaria Abramidze in 2020
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Very popular Georgian trans model who has been murdered the day after the country's parliament passed an anti-LGTBI propaganda law, shocking the country. Article was created 3 days ago and is short, but have 2,027.
Created by Alsoriano97 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
_-_Alsor (talk) 14:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Gitmo playlist

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5x expanded by Based5290 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Based5290 :3 (talk) 04:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Samuel Conrad Schwach

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Created by Sebbog13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Sebbog13 (talk) 21:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: New and just long enough. No QPQ required. Looks good to go. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Growing Form

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Growing Form
Growing Form
  • ... that sculptor Moelwyn Merchant described his 1982 piece Growing Form (pictured) as resembling "a tulip bud with the front leaf pulled out"?
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 881 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 13:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Khun Tan (mystic)

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Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hteiktinhein (talk) 06:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1-a: ... that, in hopes of gaining good luck, six girls from the Alantaya area were married to Khun Tan, a layman who claimed to be the future Buddha?

ALT1-b: ... that Khun Tan, a young guy, is worshipped as a bodhisattva in the Alantaya religious area?

ALT1-c: ... that girls in the Alantaya religious area believe that marrying the layman Khun Tan would bring blessings? Hteiktinhein (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Genocide in the Hebrew Bible

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Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 252 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 05:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I don't see the hook in the article. It is OR to interpret labelling one's enemy "Amalek" as applying biblical command to "spare no one". I haven't checked the sources, but the article does not support the hook. Srnec (talk) 17:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, the original hook I was thinking of is ALT1 below but I wasn't sure if it would be accepted either.
  • ALT1: ... that genocide in the Hebrew Bible has been cited as an inspiration by the Crusaders, Rwandan Hutu, and Israeli leaders? (t · c) buidhe 02:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll take a stab at this. I trust Buidhe to be the subject expert and do good research, but I concur that the section on "Justification for violence" here is a bit underdeveloped for the hooks proposed. I can't find the text of the article clearly confirming ALT0. As for ALT1, I'd ask "justification for what"? Carrying genocide? But that is not clear from the short quote about Pope Urban in the 11th century and then... Martin Luther? Did Luther called or tried to justify some genocide? I'd ask for that section to be expanded, clearly stating who said what, and in particular, who might have tried to justify genocide. The second paragraph in that section is more clear, and perhaps an ALT2 about "Genocide in the Hebrew Bible being used by Israeli leaders to justify their actions in the Israel-Hamas war" might be fine, and would probably draw more views too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Alt1 isn't about justification, rather inspiration. Leaving aside Luther's arguably genocidal stated beliefs about Jewish people, something along the lines of your hook may be better. (t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2 ... that Israeli leaders have described their enemies in the current Gaza war as targets of divinely commanded genocide?

(t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 21

Hixtape: Vol. 3: Difftape

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Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Jeya Wilson

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  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sunny Choi
  • Comment: DrThneed wrote the bio but she's a tad busy, hence she's asked me whether I would like to see this through the DYK process. I'm only too happy to oblige as Jeya Wilson is such a fascinating person. If you have time, I suggest you watch her opening speech at the Oxford Union debate, which is linked from the source above. And if you want to be in for a treat, wach David Lange's speech (second-to-last speaker) – an absolute stunner of a performance. Almost every New Zealander knows one of the lines that he delivered in that speech.
Moved to mainspace by Schwede66 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 162 past nominations.

Schwede66 09:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 22

Francis W. Kelly

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Francis Kelly
Francis Kelly
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Moved to mainspace by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 05:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 23 September and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I don't have access to all of the sources but they look to be reliable and I didn't find any issues with overly close paraphrasing on a spotcheck of ones I could access; for the image do you have any evidence it was taken by a serving US military person, other than the setting of it? Its immediate source is a US newspaper. Hook is interesting but the nickname is only mentioned in the lead and that it was awarded for "his insistence on being on the front lines" isn't mentioned.
@Dumelow: I'll get confirmation from the PA Veterans Museum that it is a USMC image but all evidence suggests it being an official portrait. I've placed and sourced more into on the nickname.~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, give me a ping when you hear back and I'll pop back to complete the review. As you say the photo is almost certainly taken for official purposes but good to have confirmation - Dumelow (talk) 15:26, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Howdy @Dumelow:, I've just got off the phone with the PA Veterans Museum where the Inquirer got the photo from and they confirmed that the photo is an official military photo and in the public domain. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 18:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Darth Stabro, image looks good. My only hang up is on the "because of his insistence on being on the front lines" bit of the hook. I don't think this is explicitly stated in the article. We have "Kelly's time as a chaplain was marked by an insistence on being on the front lines" and "The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him "Father Foxhole" or "Foxhole Kelly"" but the two aren't linked directly. I'm happy to approve both hooks without the "insistence" part or perhaps you can suggest something? - Dumelow (talk) 09:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that makes sense Dumelow. How about was known as "Father Foxhole" for his consistent presence on the front lines? (I have no preference on which hook, whichever you think is best) ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 17:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approving ALT2 and ALT3 above. I don't yet have newspapers.com access but happy to AGF that the source supports the statement in the article " The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him 'Father Foxhole'"; seems to be corroborated elsewhere anyway - Dumelow (talk) 20:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barquq Castle

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Barquq Castle
Barquq Castle
  • ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
  • Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the fac;ade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lac qui Parle County seat controversy

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Moved to mainspace by Cedar Tree (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Cedar Tree 19:48, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: This seems good to me, except unfortunately for the newness criteria. Maybe you can improve it to a GA and nominate as DYK then? and it was moved to mainspace two days before nom. Theodor Langhorne Franklin (talk) 17:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT0 but I think we could improve it a little. I recommend stating that they physically moved "the building" instead of "it" because it was the shocker that pulled me in and even though it's grammatically correct I didn't fully believe it. I also recommend removing the details of the month and day because they don't really help would, maybe removing the year would add to the intrigue, and removing the city of Madison because very few will know it. Maybe then there's space to add in that it was stuck in a snowstorm in the way? Theodor Langhorne Franklin (talk) 12:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cedar Tree, can you give an Alt to improve it a bit? Theodor Langhorne Franklin (talk) 02:49, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Theodor Langhorne Franklin I just did. Please let me know if you have any more suggestions :) Cedar Tree (talk) 07:24, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tweaked Alt2, and I think it's good now. Dumelow, any issues? Theodor Langhorne Franklin (talk) 03:06, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I've not reviewed other than to check the date it was nominated as it is relatively unusual for nominations to be out of date. I won't be claiming a QPQ on this, so happy to leave to you to do a full review - Dumelow (talk) 09:40, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

<removed possible vote symbol> Just placing this template to prevent this from being closed as a fail. Theodor Langhorne Franklin this article was moved from draftspace on 22 September and so is eligible- Dumelow (talk) 20:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, I missed that. Thanks for keeping this alive. Theodor Langhorne Franklin (talk) 12:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Striking Dumelow's possible vote symbol because this is resolved now. Theodor Langhorne Franklin (talk) 17:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]



Articles created/expanded on September 23

Articles created/expanded on September 24

Expandable card game

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Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 519 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Special occasion holding area

See also: WP:SOHA

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Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
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April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
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