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I wonder whether the recent move is in line with Wikipedia naming conventions. Although "Park Lands" is the official name, it is very rarely used. "Parklands" is the predominant spelling in all respects aside those official. Google confirms this to be the case online at least, with "Park Lands" grossing less than 35,000 hits compared to more than 300,000 for "Parklands". --cj | talk 07:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree the word is parklands. But this article isn't about the generic, it's about the specific; titled for the name of the subject not the word used to commonly describe the subject. I mean this is an article with a proper noun title. — User:Donama 08:44, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Parklands today

"Recent developments in the parklands have focused on maintenance and upgrading of recreational facilities, particularly through the Greening of Adelaide tree planting and replacement programs" is a fatuous statement.

The Corporation of the Cty of Adelaide has actively worked to make the upgrading of recreational facilities as difficult as possible. Long term leases for playing fields and land for buildings (changing rooms and clubs houses) have been reduced from 20 years and upwards to 1 year permits of use[1]. Additions and extensions to these rooms are not approved. Club houses and storage facilites have been demolished and returned to a scrub setting.[2] The city council's tree planting programmes have been aimed at reducing the amount of green space available for playing fields [3]. Recent plans have shown a great reduction in the size and scope of the playing fields in the parklands.

[1] Adelaide University playing fields and buildings. 1 year permit of use, depsite repeated requests to gain longer term leases as in the past. 1 year permits in place for other users.
[2] Fitzroy croquet club. Building and playing fields destroyed despite requests from various groups to use the club house and fields.
[3] 2006 plans for Park 10 and surrounds (Adelaide Uni playing fields). Tree planting to severely reduce the size of playing fields.

Ozdaren 13:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Parklands maintenance

The greatest percentage of parklands is maintained by the various permit holders. This includes the University of Adelaide, Prince Alfred College, Christian Brothers College, Touch SA (City Touch) etc. In comparison the city council only maintains a small percentage of the parklands.

Ozdaren 13:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Buildings/institutions within bounds of parklands

The list given in the article is very brief. The following buildings and institutions are, or have been, within the Adelaide Park Lands:

Existing infrastructure within the Adelaide Park Lands:

Government House, Adelaide Gaol, West Terrace Cemetery, Old Parliament House, New Parliament House, National War Memorial, South African War Memorial, Institute Building, State Library of South Australia, South Australian Museum, Art Gallery of South Australia, Immigration Museum, Torrens Parade Ground, Adelaide Railway Station, North Adelaide Railway Station, Mile End Railway Station, Victoria Park Racecourse, Adelaide Botanic Garden, Botanic Park, Bicentennial Tropical Conservatory, Plant Biodiversity Centre, Adelaide Zoo, Royal Adelaide Hospital, Thebarton Police Barracks, Adelaide High School, University of Adelaide, University of South Australia, Elder Park Rotunda, Adelaide Oval, Memorial Drive Tennis Centre, Adelaide Aquatic Centre, Adelaide Festival Centre, Adelaide Convention Centre, Sky City Casino, Hyatt Hotel, Jolly's Boatshed restaurant, Government Offices, National Wine Centre, International Rose Garden, City of Adelaide Plant Nursery, Light's Vision, Torrens Weir, Seven playgrounds, Six bridges over the River Torrens, Two water pumping stations, Water tanks, Golf course, Motor racing infrastructure, numerous roads, railways, a tramline, formal gardens and tree plantings, boat sheds, statues, memorials, sporting facilities and public toilets

Demolished or disused places, including former functions of some existing places:

Government quarries, South Australian Company's brickworks, Lime kilns, Powder magazine, Stock saleyards, Abattoirs, Rubbish dumps, Astronomical Observatory, Signal Station, Immigration Depot, Land and Survey Office, Native Location, Railway yards, Railway Goods Shed, Railway tunnel under King William Road, Government Printer's Office, Public Baths, North Adelaide Railway Signal Box, Military Barracks, Mounted Police Barracks, Armoury, Destitute Asylum, Adelaide Teachers' College, Adelaide Trade School, School of Mines and Industry, First Adelaide Hospital (1845), Adelaide Lunatic Asylum (1852), Medical Officer's Residence, Infectious Diseases Hospital, Consumptive Home, Old Exhibition Building (1859), New Exhibition Building (1887) and Agricultural Showground, Metropolitan Tramways Trust Office, Electric Tram Sheds, Hackney Experimental Orchard, Anti-aircraft battery site (1942)

Peter Bell (talk) 02:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Settlement" vs "White settlement"

"White settlement" is quite a politically loaded term IMO, as it has overtones of racial division and the so-called "black armband" view of history and all the rest of it. Dictionary.com's entry on "settlement" is ambiguous - It defines it as the "colonisation" or "settling" of new people in a new land. Therefore it seems that there could possibly have been a stone-age "black settlement" 40,000 years ago, and a steam-age "white settlement" 174 years ago. It's still colonisation, whether you came in canoes or clippers. May I suggest a compromise of "european settlement" or "British settlement", such as is widely used in other articles of South Australian geographic locations?--Yeti Hunter (talk) 02:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I don't mean to make an issue out of this and if we use the word settlement am happy to precede it with "British". On reflection though I don't think the intro of this History section needs to mention the settlement of Adelaide. The point is that Adelaide is a planned city and the parklands were a part of the plan when it was done in 1837 (though I haven't been able to verify that date yet). Donama (talk) 03:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]