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==This Subject Should Not Redirect to Secretary==
==This Subject Should Not Redirect to Secretary==
Some secretaries are administrative assistants, but not all administrative assistants are secretaries. It is incorrect to redirect "Administrative Assistant" to "Secretary" because the terms are not the same.[[User:Victoria1286|Victoria1286]] ([[User talk:Victoria1286|talk]]) 14:35, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Some secretaries are administrative assistants, but not all administrative assistants are secretaries. It is incorrect to redirect "Administrative Assistant" to "Secretary" because the terms are not the same.[[User:Victoria1286|Victoria1286]] ([[User talk:Victoria1286|talk]]) 14:35, 21 November 2009. (UTC)


:A link to [[Secretary]], in case any one wants it -- [[Special:Contributions/186.221.141.89|186.221.141.89]] ([[User talk:186.221.141.89|talk]]) 16:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
:A link to [[Secretary]], in case any one wants it -- [[Special:Contributions/186.221.141.89|186.221.141.89]] ([[User talk:186.221.141.89|talk]]) 16:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


:I see that [[Secretary]] begins: "A '''secretary, or administrative assistant'''". Perhaps we should coordinate these two articles? -- [[Special:Contributions/186.221.141.89|186.221.141.89]] ([[User talk:186.221.141.89|talk]]) 16:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
:I see that [[Secretary]] begins: "A '''secretary, or administrative assistant'''". Perhaps we should coordinate these two articles? -- [[Special:Contributions/186.221.141.89|186.221.141.89]] ([[User talk:186.221.141.89|talk]]) 16:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

:I agree with the user above. We should either decide that "secretary" and "administrative assistants" are the same or they aren't. It is confusing that the secretary page assumes that the terms are interchangeable while this does not. Do we have good sources defining them as distinct?[[Special:Contributions/68.81.55.232|68.81.55.232]] ([[User talk:68.81.55.232|talk]]) 01:04, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Personally, I think the two terms should be the same, but I would be happy for them to remain two distinct topics with separate articles. What's important is coming to a conclusion and keeping things consistent. Given the fact that there was silence on this topic for almost 3 years, there probably won't be much input on this topic but we can still get a [[WP:SILENCE|weak silence consensus]]. What do we think - are "secretary" and "administrative assistant" interchangeable, or are they distinct terms? [[User:Bilorv|'''Bilorv''']] <sup>[[User talk:Bilorv|(Talk)]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Bilorv|(Contribs)]]</sub> 13:06, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

:They seem functionally the same to me. I'm not aware of any meaningful or consistent distinction between the two. [[User:Soodonim|Soodonim]] ([[User talk:Soodonim|talk]]) 21:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

I would say the same. [[Special:Contributions/68.81.55.232|68.81.55.232]] ([[User talk:68.81.55.232|talk]]) 19:17, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

==Merger proposal==
{{discussion top|result=There is nothing to merge. Lower case [[administrative assistant]] is a redirect to [[secretary]], and has been since 2007. This discussion is moot. A proposal to merge 'secretary' and 'Administrative Assistant' may be called for. [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 05:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)}}
There is a [[Wikipedia:Proposed mergers|proposal to redirect]] the "Redirect of [[Administrative assistant]]" to [[Administrative Assistant]]. Discuss here. [[User:GenQuest|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow:brown 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">GenQuest</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:GenQuest|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow:brown 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">"Talk to Me"</span>]]</sup></small> 19:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
:'''Also''' [[secretary]] should be discussed as to how it relates to these others; should additional merges or splits be considered with these three? (Pinging proposer: [[User:Dwanyewest]] for additional input.) [[User:GenQuest|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow:brown 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">GenQuest</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:GenQuest|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow:brown 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">"Talk to Me"</span>]]</sup></small> 21:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I think enough sources have been found for [[secretary]] to be kept seperate from this articles but I have no objection if this article is merge with [[secretary]]. [[User:Dwanyewest|Dwanyewest]] ([[User talk:Dwanyewest|talk]]) 07:59, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
{{discussion bottom}}

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Poderias fundir [[:pt:Técnico administrativo|este artigo]] com [[:pt:Técnico em administração|este]]? att [[Special:Contributions/2804:14C:5BB3:A319:58B:3CB1:EA78:A067|2804:14C:5BB3:A319:58B:3CB1:EA78:A067]] ([[User talk:2804:14C:5BB3:A319:58B:3CB1:EA78:A067|talk]]) 22:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 20:10, 22 January 2024

This Subject Should Not Redirect to Secretary

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Some secretaries are administrative assistants, but not all administrative assistants are secretaries. It is incorrect to redirect "Administrative Assistant" to "Secretary" because the terms are not the same.Victoria1286 (talk) 14:35, 21 November 2009. (UTC)

A link to Secretary, in case any one wants it -- 186.221.141.89 (talk) 16:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see that Secretary begins: "A secretary, or administrative assistant". Perhaps we should coordinate these two articles? -- 186.221.141.89 (talk) 16:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the user above. We should either decide that "secretary" and "administrative assistants" are the same or they aren't. It is confusing that the secretary page assumes that the terms are interchangeable while this does not. Do we have good sources defining them as distinct?68.81.55.232 (talk) 01:04, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I think the two terms should be the same, but I would be happy for them to remain two distinct topics with separate articles. What's important is coming to a conclusion and keeping things consistent. Given the fact that there was silence on this topic for almost 3 years, there probably won't be much input on this topic but we can still get a weak silence consensus. What do we think - are "secretary" and "administrative assistant" interchangeable, or are they distinct terms? Bilorv (Talk)(Contribs) 13:06, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They seem functionally the same to me. I'm not aware of any meaningful or consistent distinction between the two. Soodonim (talk) 21:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would say the same. 68.81.55.232 (talk) 19:17, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
There is nothing to merge. Lower case administrative assistant is a redirect to secretary, and has been since 2007. This discussion is moot. A proposal to merge 'secretary' and 'Administrative Assistant' may be called for. Cnilep (talk) 05:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is a proposal to redirect the "Redirect of Administrative assistant" to Administrative Assistant. Discuss here. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 19:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also secretary should be discussed as to how it relates to these others; should additional merges or splits be considered with these three? (Pinging proposer: User:Dwanyewest for additional input.) GenQuest "Talk to Me" 21:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think enough sources have been found for secretary to be kept seperate from this articles but I have no objection if this article is merge with secretary. Dwanyewest (talk) 07:59, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Poderias fundir este artigo com este? att 2804:14C:5BB3:A319:58B:3CB1:EA78:A067 (talk) 22:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]