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So far it has 19 references mostly from different newspapers, how is that poorly sourced? [[User:Simbioz|Simbioz]] ([[User talk:Simbioz|talk]]) 12:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC) |
So far it has 19 references mostly from different newspapers, how is that poorly sourced? [[User:Simbioz|Simbioz]] ([[User talk:Simbioz|talk]]) 12:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:If you're looking for examples of a reliable source for Wikipedia this [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources|article]] is a good place to start. Mr. Bald's YouTube channel, while popular, hasn't received much coverage to be considered notable. Much of this article is fluff and poorly sourced. - [[User:Nemov|Nemov]] ([[User talk:Nemov|talk]]) 14:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC) |
:If you're looking for examples of a reliable source for Wikipedia this [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources|article]] is a good place to start. Mr. Bald's YouTube channel, while popular, hasn't received much coverage to be considered notable. Much of this article is fluff and poorly sourced. - [[User:Nemov|Nemov]] ([[User talk:Nemov|talk]]) 14:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:: 2.5 million YouTube subscribers is enormous coverage, not to mention 350 million views. It's easily sufficient for notability concerns. You can probably move on to other issues and not be missed greatly for your diligence on the subject of this man's notability. [[User:Santamoly|Santamoly]] ([[User talk:Santamoly|talk]]) 04:52, 22 March 2021 (UTC) |
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== Harald Baldr == |
== Harald Baldr == |
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Poorly sourced
This page needs better sources or it should be trimmed down significantly. The entire article is thin on reliable sources and I'm not even sure the subject is notable enough to deserve an article. - Nemov (talk) 20:43, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah. This is the time where I make a useless "somebody needs to do something" post on the talk page because I don't know where to start ripping this article up so that it can be completely rewritten. I know it's a weird comparison but a useful one: WP:MEDRS says "cite sources, not write them", and this page breaks that rule entirely. My name continues to not be dave (talk) 08:47, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
So far it has 19 references mostly from different newspapers, how is that poorly sourced? Simbioz (talk) 12:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- If you're looking for examples of a reliable source for Wikipedia this article is a good place to start. Mr. Bald's YouTube channel, while popular, hasn't received much coverage to be considered notable. Much of this article is fluff and poorly sourced. - Nemov (talk) 14:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- 2.5 million YouTube subscribers is enormous coverage, not to mention 350 million views. It's easily sufficient for notability concerns. You can probably move on to other issues and not be missed greatly for your diligence on the subject of this man's notability. Santamoly (talk) 04:52, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Harald Baldr
@Danny Left: This page is thinly sources already, but adding Harald Baldr as an associated act is a stretch. Even if the two of them are linked together in YouTube Video their relationship hasn't received significant coverage to make it a notable association. If there are notable source linking the two together please add it. Keep in mine YouTube isn't a notable source.Nemov (talk) 03:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Whilst it is true that they have appeared in each others content on YouTube and are friends, Rich also appears in several other Youtuber's content as a guest too. Baldr and Rich have not worked together for a year now, save one short meeting in Kyiv. So no not an associated act. Sovietspoonz (talk) 11:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
@Spidersnakes: If you have a case for why Harald Baldr should be included in this article you can make it here. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 16:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Harald Baldr should be added as an associated act. There are sources that mention him with Rich. They have also worked together many times, including recently, and are close friends. Also, Baldr was the person that encouraged him to start making YouTubr videos. Harald Baldr should be added to this page. Spidersnakes (talk) 21:33, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- If there are reliable sources (you can learn more about those at WP:NEWSORG) that makes this connection notable please feel free to present them here. However, the source you added the first time failed to meet WP:RELIABLE standards. Thanks. - Nemov (talk) 23:01, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Alina Adzika
Please do not refer to Alina Adzika as Rich's girlfriend. Whilst she was referred to as his girlfriend and editor in his 2017 book, it is understandable why people keep adding it. However on YouTube and in other media they now refer to each other as "friends"; and neither party will confirm or deny any romantic relationship when asked directly about it. Keep it as "friends" until they wish to go public. Sovietspoonz (talk) 10:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- It also doesn't matter what their relationship is because unless it's covered by a reliable source it's not notable. - Nemov (talk) 12:24, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Real name
Currently this man's name is given as "Benjamin Rich". There are several mentions of this in news articles, none of whose writers appear to have spoken to him, but his book The Burning Edge: Travels Through Irradiated Belarus is authored by "Arthur Chichester". There are also several mentions, including on fan pages, of him deliberately never giving his real name. It could be worth noting this ambiguity in the article. Wodgester (talk) 16:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Has there been notable coverage of his name? This article only exists because he is a notable YouTube personality. If his name hasn't received notable coverage it doesn't belong in this article. Nemov (talk) 19:29, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- The point is, there is no confirmation that "Benjamin Rich" is even his name. He has referred to himself as Benjamin, so we may assume that is his first name, but outside of the article this page links to, and this page, I don't see any source for the surname "Rich". Saying this disparity "doesn't belong in this article" presupposes we even know what his name is. I don't think there is confirmation of that. As such, if this article is OK to exist, then it should note he has intentionally kept his name secretive. It's why it's not on his channel, it's why he used a pen name. When I first saw this page I wondered if it is correct, does it violate his privacy, because whether or not this is his name, he clearly doesn't want people knowing it. A quote from a fee.org article linked to this page "Ben, who has never revealed his real name" (this published 2 months after the article claiming his name was Rich). If he doesn't want to be called "Ben Rich" and it isn't even his name, why is that the name of this article? This seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to address. He's not even known by this name. He's known as "Bald and Bankrupt" or "Bald/Mr. Bald" or just Ben. J1DW (talk) 00:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)