Talk:Blue men of the Minch

"In popular culture"

So, Charles Mackay wrote a poem "The Kelpie of Corryvreckan" (also spelled Corrievreckan") which Ruth Gipps set to music. Here's a quick summary: "It tells of a fair and a fickle maid who leaves her lover for the Kelpie and finds out too late that his abode is at the bottom of the sea where, of course, she is drowned as an awful warning to all fickle maidens." See JSTOR 921816. Also The Kelpie of Corrievreckan, for Clarinet and Piano by Ruth GippsReview by: E. L.Music & Letters, Vol. 24, No. 1 (Jan., 1943), p. 63Published by: Oxford University PressStable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/728626. Drmies (talk) 02:48, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks for that. I had a JSTOR search done, but only for blue men, so I didn't catch these kelpie references. I'll add something later. Eric Corbett 12:25, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Sure thing. One thing led to another. The Corryvreckan article gave me a few more terms to search, including "fir gorma". I just emailed you a book review, of limited use in its own right, but it confirms "blue-men" = "fir gorma" = "Africans". There has to be more on that topic, though. Drmies (talk) 17:51, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Indeed there must. I for one was rather surprised to learn that the Vikings traded in slaves from North Africa, and brought them over here to the UK. Eric Corbett 18:04, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

A Google book search delivers a few interesting hits--this is perhaps the most useful (hope you can read it). This is interesting also (it notes the burial of a young African girl in 10th century Norfolk). Here is a note on otherness--remember the Cohen text I added to our Green Children? This is interesting too, an edition of the Caithréim Chellacháin Chaisil, citing the Irish Annals. Drmies (talk) 17:57, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Corryvreckan/"localised to the Minch"

If they are found at Corryvreckan they can't also be "localised to the Minch, unknown in other parts of Scotland ". Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:33, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

So where do you think the Corryvreckan is? Eric Corbett 20:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Between Jura and Scarba and nowhere near the Minch. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

So is it your argument that the Little Minch isn't part of the Minch? Eric Corbett 22:17, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

No? My point is simple, that Corryvreckan is not in, or even near, the Minch (or in the Little Minch since you raise that). Your combative and insulting tone is not endearing you to me, particularly when it is your geographical knowledge which is at fault. Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

It's you that's simple. Eric Corbett 23:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)