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As a Portuguese living abroad, having tasted both. no way one has nothing to do with the other.
As a Portuguese living abroad, having tasted both. no way one has nothing to do with the other.
It's like all individual flags should be merged in to flags. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/85.242.188.130|85.242.188.130]] ([[User talk:85.242.188.130|talk]]) 08:25, 7 September 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
It's like all individual flags should be merged in to flags. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/85.242.188.130|85.242.188.130]] ([[User talk:85.242.188.130|talk]]) 08:25, 7 September 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
i completely disagree with the merging of the custart tart with egg tart. i have made the egg tart and it tastes completely different.
I think the idea of [[Wikipedia:Merging|merging]] [[Egg tart]] and [[Pastel de nata]] into this article is a good one. I don't see that there's been any discussion, at least not recently. Perhaps others have some thoughts? [[User:JoeSperrazza|JoeSperrazza]] ([[User talk:JoeSperrazza|talk]]) 14:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I think the idea of [[Wikipedia:Merging|merging]] [[Egg tart]] and [[Pastel de nata]] into this article is a good one. I don't see that there's been any discussion, at least not recently. Perhaps others have some thoughts? [[User:JoeSperrazza|JoeSperrazza]] ([[User talk:JoeSperrazza|talk]]) 14:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
:This article was split from [[egg tart]] recently, if you want a merge, merge it back to egg tart, that will make much more sense then merging one with more history to this newer article. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|signed]] comment added by</small> [[User:Mythsearcher|MythSearcher]]<sup>[[User talk:Mythsearcher|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
:This article was split from [[egg tart]] recently, if you want a merge, merge it back to egg tart, that will make much more sense then merging one with more history to this newer article. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|signed]] comment added by</small> [[User:Mythsearcher|MythSearcher]]<sup>[[User talk:Mythsearcher|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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Merge discussion

As a Portuguese living abroad, having tasted both. no way one has nothing to do with the other. It's like all individual flags should be merged in to flags. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.188.130 (talk) 08:25, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

i completely disagree with the merging of the custart tart with egg tart. i have made the egg tart and it tastes completely different.

I think the idea of merging Egg tart and Pastel de nata into this article is a good one. I don't see that there's been any discussion, at least not recently. Perhaps others have some thoughts? JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article was split from egg tart recently, if you want a merge, merge it back to egg tart, that will make much more sense then merging one with more history to this newer article. —Preceding signed comment added by MythSearchertalk 00:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Portuguese might object to this. There are many egg tarts, but the Pasteis de nata has a specific and unique association with Portugal Asteuartw (talk) 21:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Asteuartw, about merging Pastel de nata article with generic egg tart, is just opening a can of worms. I would almost suggest that even after an attempted merge, there would be Portuguese editors who will push to de-annex the subject matter from any generic. The point is that egg tart is a generic page, and pastel de nata is/was intended to distinguish the local variant, with its own associated cultural identity. I oppose the petition to merge. Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 20:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't it be at egg custard tart, were it all to be merged (so each page history would stay where it was, if it were to separate out again) ? 70.49.127.194 (talk) 12:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

what the big fuss about...just make/buy the thing and INDULGE!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.242.98.189 (talk) 07:04, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "fuss" is, in large part, I would say, about inconsistency, overlap, and poor article organization. The present article begins "This article is about custard tarts in British cuisine" and then goes on to talk about Hong Kong and China, France and Portugal... Someone (preferably wielding Ockham's razor) needs to take an egg tart / custard tart / egg custard tart / pastel de nata overview..! -- Picapica (talk) 15:54, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the dab note reading "This article is about custard tarts in British cuisine" because this is the main overview article, with egg tart and pastel de nata being more detailed subsidiary ones. I suggest we continue to improve the overview article and eventually merge in the detail articles. --Macrakis (talk) 17:26, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In the same way that portugal has a special tie to the Pasteis de nata, The egg custard tart is a primarily Asian dish served in tea houses, and should possible stay separate from the more european custard tart or the Pasteis de nata. NotinREALITY 05:29, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think merging the articles back together is a good idea. Yes,also each of the terms refer to a distinct item of food. Of course an overview article would useful, however readers are likely to search for a particular type of tart, and it's therefore in everyone's best interests to let them read what they've searched for. Deryck C. 16:05, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Integration and Redirection

Other solution: the egg tart page should be integrated in the pastel de nata page and redirections should be established, since the information presented in there refers to the introduction of the 蛋挞 in Asia and its origins and relation with the Portuguese pastry.

It's the same information repeated in two pages: actually, the 挞 character was chosen in Macau to name this pastry because its sound is very similar to the syllable ta of the Portuguese word nata and the 蛋 character, meaning "egg", which also has the similar sound of the first syllable na together with the preposition de. So the original name ("pastel de nata") should be preserved in the title's page and not the name that mentions one ingredient of the pastry — "egg tart".

Therefore, the redirections would be 蛋挞/蛋撻/dàntà/egg tart => Pastel de Nata/Pastéis de Nata, and the link from the former (the custard tart link) be placed in the latter. InforGatherer (talk) 06:48, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, Pastel de Nata is the predecessor to the Egg tart / Custard tart / Danta Atban3000 (talk) 22:46, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]