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Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an attack page or a negative unsourced biography of a living person, because I find this an unusual case of a man being convicted of murder and the controversy surrounding the supposed shaken baby syndrome that played a part in his conviction and sentence --NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 03:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plus I can amend the language and everything. It is still in a stage of drafting at this point, and it might be too premature for speedy deletion. Sorry if I have crossed the line. NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 03:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern

This article repeatedly refers to the "junk science" of "shaken baby syndrome". It must be acknowledged that the science of paediatric non accidental injury is challenging because direct testing obviously cannot be done. However, there are some injuries that are strongly associated with non-accidental injury in children. I don't know the details of this case, but the injuries described in the article here would raise strong suspicion of non-accidental injury for most paediatricians internationally and are certainly inconsistent with falling off a bed. Whilst there are some who have strong views that "shaken baby syndrome" is "junk science", this is not the general consensus in the professional community. Even if the author of this article feels differently (as I suspect they do), alternative views and paediatric consensus statements should be acknowledged and references provided so the reader can view them. Ivannater (talk) 05:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is sufficient scientific evidence to back up the junk science argument. For example, here is a result of a VERY quick Google search of a few seconds: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780128027196000042 Worstbull (talk) 19:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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	This article repeatedly refers to the "junk science" of "shaken baby syndrome". It must be acknowledged that the science of paediatric non accidental injury is challenging because direct testing obviously cannot be done. However, there are some injuries that are strongly associated with non-accidental injury in children. I don't know the details of this case, but the injuries described in the article here would raise strong suspicion of non-accidental injury for most paediatricians internationally and are certainly inconsistent with falling off a bed. Whilst there are some who have strong views that "shaken baby syndrome" is "junk science", this is not the general consensus in the professional community. Even if the author of this article feels differently (as I suspect they do), alternative views and paediatric consensus statements should be acknowledged and references provided so the reader can view them. [[User:Ivannater\|Ivannater]] ([[User talk:Ivannater\|talk]]) 05:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)		This article repeatedly refers to the "junk science" of "shaken baby syndrome". It must be acknowledged that the science of paediatric non accidental injury is challenging because direct testing obviously cannot be done. However, there are some injuries that are strongly associated with non-accidental injury in children. I don't know the details of this case, but the injuries described in the article here would raise strong suspicion of non-accidental injury for most paediatricians internationally and are certainly inconsistent with falling off a bed. Whilst there are some who have strong views that "shaken baby syndrome" is "junk science", this is not the general consensus in the professional community. Even if the author of this article feels differently (as I suspect they do), alternative views and paediatric consensus statements should be acknowledged and references provided so the reader can view them. [[User:Ivannater\|Ivannater]] ([[User talk:Ivannater\|talk]]) 05:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

			:There is sufficient scientific evidence to back up the junk science argument. For example, here is a result of a VERY quick Google search of a few seconds: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780128027196000042 [[User:Worstbull\|Worstbull]] ([[User talk:Worstbull\|talk]]) 19:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)