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:{{tq|KJ, which day do you think "Happiest day of my life. For the rest of my life." . . . refers to?}} I don't know because she never stated which day; she only made the announcement stating the event made whatever day the engagement was the happiest day of her life. [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B7D7B">talk</span>]]</sup> 16:44, 18 October 2019 (UTC) |
:{{tq|KJ, which day do you think "Happiest day of my life. For the rest of my life." . . . refers to?}} I don't know because she never stated which day; she only made the announcement stating the event made whatever day the engagement was the happiest day of her life. [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B7D7B">talk</span>]]</sup> 16:44, 18 October 2019 (UTC) |
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::If we do not know the exact date, then we make the date more vague. WP is cluttered up left, right and center by these constant announcements. Sometimes entire articles consist of nothing but announcements. |
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::As for the day: it is highly unlikely that carmella got engaged and then waited an unknown number of days before tweeting about it. [[User:Str1977|Str1977]] [[User talk:Str1977|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:37, 19 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:::How do you propose we make the date vaguer? {{tq|As for the day: it is highly unlikely that Becky got engaged and then waited an unknown number of days before tweeting about it.}} Isn't this speculative? Isn't the most accurate statement the one where we annotate the announcement since the exact engagement date isn't known? [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span>]]</sup> 10:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC) |
:::How do you propose we make the date vaguer? {{tq|As for the day: it is highly unlikely that Becky got engaged and then waited an unknown number of days before tweeting about it.}} Isn't this speculative? Isn't the most accurate statement the one where we annotate the announcement since the exact engagement date isn't known? [[User:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95">'''K'''yle'''J'''oan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:KyleJoan|<span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span>]]</sup> 10:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC) |
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New name for his knee strike maneuver
On Feb. 19th, Corey Graves called the knee strike move "Revolution Knee", which is most likely the new name for the knee strike move WikiPena321 (talk) 22:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Done. I found a source an added it in.RF23 (talk) 21:54, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Grand Slam Rollins
Shouldn't "Grand Slam Rollins" be placed on his Nicknames article? He called himself that on the Raw post WM 34, and even said it had a nice ring to it. Even if it was a one-night only, he was called that by the announcers. 2804:14D:BAD4:8AE8:A099:5FF1:C2C3:B3D1 (talk) 03:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Signatures and Finishers
On various Wikipedia articles for wrestlers, the signatures, finishers, and nicknames have been removed. Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.15.20.234 (talk) 21:31, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wikiproject Pro Wrestling decided to do that as a guideline, here's the discussion: WT:PW#Trying_to_gain_clarity_(closed). RF23 (talk) 03:19, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
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Seth Rollins
He is the current Universal Heavyweight Champion in his first reign. Uche Divine Samuel (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 07:19, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.
If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.
Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.
Immediate Failures
It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria
- No. Apart from the below. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:22, 11 June 2019 (UTC)It contains copyright infringements
- Possible copyvio checking - On check, these seem like copying from wikipedia. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:22, 11 June 2019 (UTC)It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}).
- Quite a few [citation needed] and [better source needed] tags need replacing before I will continue the review. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:22, 11 June 2019 (UTC)It is not stable due to edit warring on the page.
- No edit warring found Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:22, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Links
- [1] no dablinks Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:21, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- A couple dodgy links in checklinks require fixing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:21, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Prose
Lede
known by the ring name Seth Rollins. He is currently signed to WWE,
- make into one sentence. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)- Lede doesn't need to be in chronological order, put his notable stuff first (his world title reigns etc) before his pre-WWE days. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- he became the first wrestler of Armenian descent to hold the title - is the note neccesary? Is this not adequately stated in the main body? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- He was the cover athlete for WWE 2K18.[7] - Source not mentioned. Should also spell out this is a video game. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
General prose
- Any reason why Gyxx is enbolded? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Direct names should be italicised (Ted Petty Invitational Tournament, Glory by Honor VI etc). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- hanging Jay Briscoe from the rigging that had been used during the ladder match earlier that night. - Like a noose, or what? This seems like a radical statement and needs better explination and sourcing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Black later made his ROH debut - in-ring début. Strictly speaking in a wrestling sense, he'd already débuted. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- attacked by - not a fan of this wording. It doesn't explain if this is kayfabe or not. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- on a bulging disc in his neck - Can we not just use the medical version? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- thereby depriving Strong of his championship chance in a singles match - this makes it sound like he chose the triple threat. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
WWE
- Evan Bourne convinced him to join WWE – Based on unreliable source. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- "On September 14, Lopez (as Tyler Black)" as Tyler Black has been used interchangably with the subjects last name. Should be uniform (Or, at least until the commonname is used). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Rollins then faced Hunico on November 4 in the first ever FCW 15 match under 15-minute Iron Man rules – This is really poorly explained. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Is Calvin Raines notable? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- and the match was sent into sudden death rules, - reword. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- the episode of the match aired on December 12 due to tape delay - Seems irrelevent. He didn't lose or win the title. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- emerged from the crowd to attack Punk's adversaries.[69][70][71][72] - WP:REFBOMB. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- The Shield's unpinned/unsubmitted streak in televised six-man tag team matches ended at the hands of Team Hell No and Randy Orton when Bryan made Rollins submit - Reword to first loss by fall. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Chief operating officer (COO) - COO shouldn't be used again in context in article, so doesn't need shortening. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- earned their jobs back - reclaimed thier jobs. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Wikilink Royal Rumble match Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- The Shield then feuded with Triple H, the COO of WWE and leader of The Authority, - this was already noted above. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- The Shield defeated Evolution at Extreme Rules and again at Payback in a No Holds Barred elimination match, in which all members of The Shield survived - "Survived" makes them seem like everyone else died. Reword to "were not eliminated", or similar. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- (2014–2015)
- On the June 2 episode of Raw, after Batista left Evolution and WWE,[108] Triple H revealed his "plan B", which turned out to be Rollins attacking Ambrose and Reigns to rejoin The Authority and turn heel again. - This isn't the best sentence. If he left WWE, he must have left the stable. The "plan B" is irrelevant. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Rollins later explained his actions by stating that The Shield would not be a success without him and Ambrose and Reigns were not his brothers, like they claimed, but business partners to help him move up in WWE.
Is this a quote or not? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)In September, Rollins began feuding with Roman Reigns and a match between the two was set up for Night of Champions, but Reigns developed a legitimate incarcerated hernia which required surgery prior to the event,[117] resulting in Rollins being declared the winner via forfeit, before being attacked by a returning Ambrose.
- At no point is it mentioned that Ambrose left TV, so returning is pointless. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)Orton onto the steel ring steps, putting him out of action
- Curb stomp is used quite a bit. This is very in-universe, as is "putting him out of action". Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)- in which Rollins was the sole survivor and the last man eliminated by Dolph Ziggler, resulting in The Authority being ousted from control of WWE. - how was Rollins the sole survivor? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- thus turning it into a triple threat match - this isn't exactly a therefor statement. I doubt non-wrestling fans would know this is how this would work. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- This made Rollins the first man to cash in his Money in the Bank contract at WrestleMania and during a title match - This should have the word "both" in there somewhere, these are two different statements. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Kane as the gatekeeper
- what? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)- Rollins then re-ignited his feud with John Cena[139] - not sure what the statement this citation is trying to corroborate. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- On October 25 at Hell in a Cell, Rollins successfully defended the championship against "Demon" Kane and per the match stipulation, Kane was fired as Director of Operations.[143] - Nowhere does this explain what demon Kane is. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- Too much "thus" Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- (2016–2017)
- Overall, too many - hit with this finisher. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- The following night on Raw, Rollins addressed the fans and said that he did not need anyone on his side, - Is this a quote? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- critics wondered if WWE was "leaving money on the table"[according to whom?] Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- (fans were cheering Rollins and booing Reigns) - explination isn't neccesary. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- clean loss is jargon Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- You also don't give someone a loss.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- Sometimes the name of the event isn't neccesary. "in matches against Ambrose on both Raw and SmackDown before Battleground" - Just say twice. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- Draft should be explained, it's not a universal concept. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- "calling out" isn't great wording. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- (2017–2018)
- several weeks,[181][182][183][184][185] - Refbomb
I'll look at more when/if the above is fixed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Notes & References
- The Sun is not a reliable source, and any information sourced to this magazine should be backed up by others or removed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Periodicals should either all be linked, or none at all. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Colt Cabana is NOT a publisher. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- General consistency. Work, publisher, etc. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Make sure all are reliable sources. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
GA Review
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Comments
- Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Ducktech89 there is quite a bit above. I've nearly completed, but there is things that really need addressing. Could you take a look and make the changes? If not, I'll have to fail this one, there's quite a few issues, specifically WP:INUNIVERSE, bad wording and attribution of quotes. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:42, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- after 10 days without a response, I'll have to fail this one. It's not in the right state yet, and needs lots more work to pass.
- Hi Ducktech89 there is quite a bit above. I've nearly completed, but there is things that really need addressing. Could you take a look and make the changes? If not, I'll have to fail this one, there's quite a few issues, specifically WP:INUNIVERSE, bad wording and attribution of quotes. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:42, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
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Seth Rollins does not live in Moline, he lives in Davenport, Iowa 205.215.217.130 (talk) 15:08, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done. There are sources present in the article that say otherwise. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 21:43, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Criticism section
Genuine question: Is the criticism section really that notable? There are other situations of people receiving legitimate heat that aren't even noted on said heat's subject's articles (e.g. John Cena and The Rock's public comments toward each other prior to their feud, Candice Michelle and Melina, etc.). Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter subsequently expressed annoyance that Lopez keeps "putting his foot in his mouth".
Are we going to annotate every time wrestling reporters are annoyed at something? KyleJoantalk 12:42, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
RfC about the criticism section
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Is the recently-added criticism section significant enough to put in the article? KyleJoantalk 16:38, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support inclusion but rename section per WP:CSECTION. His status as a flawed WWE spokesperson or "vocal leader" is probably notable but "Criticism" is an imprecise header and is almost always discouraged.LM2000 (talk) 17:14, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with Str1977 below that if this is kept then it should be shortened.LM2000 (talk) 02:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- What kind of criticism? About his complains with Will Ospreay and so? If that's all, I don't see notable. Every wrestler today has online backlash. There is something more? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:17, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- The section only contains the Ospreay situation and nothing more. KyleJoantalk 03:41, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- I was in support of removing this in the past. It is kinda WP:NOTNEWS. So he put his foot in his mouth defending his employer, not very significant. I also do not like the section title "criticism" at all. StaticVapor message me! 18:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support inclusion but shorten the details, rename and move to more appropriate place (not "personal life"). Str1977 (talk) 22:15, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- Please refrain from moving and retitling section until RfC is complete. KyleJoantalk 03:41, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Please refrain from such blanket reverts. My edits had hardly anything to do with the section in question and nothing with actual issue: retain or delete the section. Str1977 (talk) 13:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Your edit voids the specific section link named in the RfC (i.e., Seth Rollins#Criticism), which confuses editors as to which section is being discussed. Also, use American spelling. KyleJoantalk 16:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Str1977: You stated that you'd like to move the section being discussed, which you proceeded to do without consensus. Doing so before this RfC is complete is premature due to the possibility of other editors opining otherwise. KyleJoantalk 16:26, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- My edits came before I even was aware that there is an RfC. I included some of my edits in my comments here but main issue is keep or delete the section. If we delete it, as you prefer, it doesn't matter anyway. I have now restored the original name of the section but your blanket reverts are unacceptable. Str1977 (talk) 16:31, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- While we're mainly discussing the section's content, its placement is also significant because the RfC began with it existing as its own section, therefore, moving and changing it into a subsection confuses the discussion. It also does not matter what I prefer; we're trying to achieve consensus. KyleJoantalk 16:40, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- My edits came before I even was aware that there is an RfC. I included some of my edits in my comments here but main issue is keep or delete the section. If we delete it, as you prefer, it doesn't matter anyway. I have now restored the original name of the section but your blanket reverts are unacceptable. Str1977 (talk) 16:31, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Str1977: You stated that you'd like to move the section being discussed, which you proceeded to do without consensus. Doing so before this RfC is complete is premature due to the possibility of other editors opining otherwise. KyleJoantalk 16:26, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Your edit voids the specific section link named in the RfC (i.e., Seth Rollins#Criticism), which confuses editors as to which section is being discussed. Also, use American spelling. KyleJoantalk 16:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Please refrain from such blanket reverts. My edits had hardly anything to do with the section in question and nothing with actual issue: retain or delete the section. Str1977 (talk) 13:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Please refrain from moving and retitling section until RfC is complete. KyleJoantalk 03:41, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose inclusion per WP:NOTNEWS. KyleJoantalk 03:41, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support inclusion of content but not in a "criticism" section - I think the essay WP:NOCRIT offers good guidance about weaving otherwise acceptable content into the body of the article rather than bookending it into a standalone "criticism" section. Chetsford (talk) 16:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support inclusion of content but not in a "criticism" section I think it's noteworthy enough but doesn't need it's own section. Agree that WP:NOCRIT is relevant. Comatmebro (talk) 00:40, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support inclusion of content but not in a "criticism" section It can be integrated in the Professional wrestling style, persona and reception section. These spats by wrestlers (and even boxers prior to a match) are sometimes done for the sake of promotion. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:42, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support inclusion of content but not in a "criticism" section per User:Darwin Naz who sums up the practices of kayfabe in an industry that is the very definition of "fake news" see also: WP:NOCRIT — Ched (talk) 05:15, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Engagement
KJ, which day do you think "Happiest day of my life. For the rest of my life." [2] refers to? And even if it were not that date, the "announcement" is completely irrelevant. We should report events and facts, not announcements. Str1977 (talk) 16:35, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
We should report events and facts, not announcements.
Not when we don't know when said events and facts take place.KJ, which day do you think "Happiest day of my life. For the rest of my life." . . . refers to?
I don't know because she never stated which day; she only made the announcement stating the event made whatever day the engagement was the happiest day of her life. KyleJoantalk 16:44, 18 October 2019 (UTC)- If we do not know the exact date, then we make the date more vague. WP is cluttered up left, right and center by these constant announcements. Sometimes entire articles consist of nothing but announcements.
- As for the day: it is highly unlikely that carmella got engaged and then waited an unknown number of days before tweeting about it. Str1977 (talk) 09:37, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- How do you propose we make the date vaguer?
As for the day: it is highly unlikely that Becky got engaged and then waited an unknown number of days before tweeting about it.
Isn't this speculative? Isn't the most accurate statement the one where we annotate the announcement since the exact engagement date isn't known? KyleJoantalk 10:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC) - It's not speculation but rather using common sense.
- How can we make it vaguer (which I don't think we have to, if we use common sense)? We could just note the month but since you refuse common sense, you could probably respond by speculating that we don't know they got (sic!) engaged in August. Maybe, they have been egaged for ten years and only now "announced" it. Who knows - it's all unclear, according to you!
- {{tq|Your "most accurate statement" is also the most irrelevant. Announcements by themselves do not warrant inclusion.
- Str1977 (talk) 07:09, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
We could just note the month but since you refuse common sense, you could probably respond by speculating that we don't know they got (sic!) engaged in August. Maybe, they have been egaged for ten years and only now "announced" it. Who knows - it's all unclear, according to you!
All of this is correct. I'm glad you understand. Can you direct me to the guideline where it says any announcement whatsoever does not warrant inclusion in WP:BLP? I'm having trouble finding it. Putting an unsourced engagement date would mean that that piece of information does not adhere to WP:OR or WP:V; I don't know about you, but I'd like to adhere to both WP:OR and WP:V. KyleJoantalk 15:19, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- How do you propose we make the date vaguer?
Removed RFC Invitation
Placed on wrong page. AnAudLife (talk) 20:23, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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86.12.177.170 (talk) 18:31, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
seth rollins is not a heel wreslter and he has not turned heel and can you take off the heel turn.
- Partly done: I'll have a look at it and try to make it match the sources a bit better. I can only see one mention of 'heel' in the whole text, so if that's not what you want, please make a clearer request :) - ChrisWar666 (talk) 01:03, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Relationships
"On February 9, 2015, a nude photo of former NXT wrestler Zahra Schreiber, reportedly Lopez's girlfriend,[....] Soon after, nude photos of Lopez were posted on the Twitter page of his then-fiancée, Leighla Schultz"
So he had a girlfriend and a fiancée at the same time? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Have not said if baby is boy or girl
They have not officially stated if Roux is a boy or a girl. The name can be used for either sex. Roux roughly translates to "ginger". Maybe because of reddish hair, or the half Irish heritage. Until they announce if it is a boy or girl, I don't think it is right to assume the baby's gender. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.99.184.13 (talk) 22:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Seth Rollins resides in Davenport, IA, not Moline, IL. Seth Rollins owns a coffee shop and a wrestling school in Davenport that are right next door to each other. Wwerawlins (talk) 02:49, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 03:19, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Is it okay toadd how she is married to carmella at the top?
it is known that he is married toc, but is it okay to add his marraige with her?Kurisumasen (talk) 12:39, 27 August 2021 (UTC) it may say that in another section, Kurisumasen (talk) 12:40, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
moving page
please move the page into seth freakin rollins — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roman vs brock (talk • contribs) 12:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- I disargee Eliskuya2 (talk) 01:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nowhere close to being the WP:COMMONNAME yet. — Czello 08:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. Most third-party sources still call him Seth Rollins. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:16, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- there is some pages with "Seth "Freakin" rollins everywhere, Eliskuya2 (talk) 01:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
8 Time World Champion
Does WWE recognize him for having other World Titles? 70.127.125.185 (talk) 04:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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NXT title a "TOP" 3 Championships?
Strange note in the opening about how he's held WWE's "Top" 3 championships. NXT is pretty much unofficially a developmental brand and by no means is their championship considered a "Top" prize in the company in my opinion. At least it's never been viewed or spoken about in that way.68.196.67.65 (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
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