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:On 28 January 2018, WSMR started an AfD on the "media coverage of BS" page and an ANI report against me which was closed the same day (though he reopened it a few hours after Bbb23 closed it as being most likely a disruptive timesink). Five days later, I challenged him to demonstrate the copyvio (the least subjective of the accusations) |
:On 28 January 2018, WSMR started an AfD on the "media coverage of BS" page and an ANI report against me which was closed the same day (though he reopened it a few hours after Bbb23 closed it as being most likely a disruptive timesink). Five days later, I challenged him to demonstrate the copyvio (the least subjective of the accusations). Caught in the fib, he shifted the goalposts: "{{tq| Regardless of whether the use of that image was a violation of copyright law, it was a clear violation of WP's fair use policy}}" in this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AWMSR&type=revision&diff=938988227&oldid=938987852 diff]. |
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:WMSR removed the image from the article on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=936925021 21 January 2020], I never restored it. Why was this worth discussion 7 days later? |
:WMSR removed the image from the article on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=936925021 21 January 2020], I never restored it. Why was this worth discussion 7 days later? |
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:WMSR also accused me of harassment on 28 January 2020, though I hadn't even commented on his talk page (though he'd been asked to stay off mine).<br /> |
:WMSR also accused me of harassment on 28 January 2020, though I hadn't even commented on his talk page (though he'd been asked to stay off mine).<br /> |
Revision as of 11:25, 8 February 2020
AE complaint
- Immediate history
- On 31 January 2020 MrX was warned for edit warring on Media coverage of Bernie Sanders. He was at 3RR at 14:30 and had not reverted his (mistake) by 23:30 (and still has not). I filed at ANEW, and after he was warned, MrX began compiling diffs for this revenge filing on the same day.
- On 4 February 2020, Snooganssnoogans made a series of 6 reversions (one continuous revert) with insulting edit summaries:
- fix poor, incomprehensible writeup
- nonsensical descriptions
- awful writeup
- this has nothing to do with media bias against Sanders. one editor has repeatedly edit-warred this into the article over the objections of other editors ( diff ).
- The cumulative effect was clear "baiting" to take advantage of the "no personal comments" sanction Awilley had imposed in a previous case MrX had brought against me, and which Snoog was also involved in.
I presented the facts on the talk page, showing beyond any doubt that nobody had ever deleted the content I had supposedly repeatedly edit-warred into the article.
- WMSR, who has been trying to get me sanctioned for some time, denied the evidence on the talk page.
- Objective3000 made a number of personal attacks against me which I tried to remove (one of which WMSR acknowledged
O3000 shouldn't have said
in yet another denial of the clear evidence that Snoogans had made up the edit-war he was complaining of. - WMSR, Objective3000, Slywriter and another contributor directed a number of personal comments towards me on the talk page (zero discussion of content) while I rewrote a paragraph about the section scrubbed from the article by Snoogans & MrX. I explicitly and politely responded to their concerns with previous content and continued a content discussion on the TP amidst the poisonous atmosphere being established by the five editors in the original thread.
- Miscellaneous
- People have objected to my saying the entry & topic area is being controlled by a "house" cabal with a division of roles according to talents, tools, and experience points. Wait, no, I didn't say all that, did I? :) People have also previously objected to me drawing attention to the fact that Snoogans & MrX work together. As the record shows, these two have interacted on 41 pages within 10 minutes of one another, and 167 pages within 10 days of one another. Their #1 and #3 interactions are on Media coverage of Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard, two pages where I have had to deal with them extensively.
- WMSR's copyvio & harassment accusations
- On 28 January 2018, WSMR started an AfD on the "media coverage of BS" page and an ANI report against me which was closed the same day (though he reopened it a few hours after Bbb23 closed it as being most likely a disruptive timesink). Five days later, I challenged him to demonstrate the copyvio (the least subjective of the accusations). Caught in the fib, he shifted the goalposts: "
Regardless of whether the use of that image was a violation of copyright law, it was a clear violation of WP's fair use policy
" in this diff. - WMSR removed the image from the article on 21 January 2020, I never restored it. Why was this worth discussion 7 days later?
- WMSR also accused me of harassment on 28 January 2020, though I hadn't even commented on his talk page (though he'd been asked to stay off mine).
- Working the refs
- Obj3000, MrX, and Snoog have all commented on 7 admin talk pages. The closest association (by far) is with Awilley, who imposed the "no personal comments" sanction (20, 19, and 22 comments, respectively). I have made a spreadsheet of their interactions separated into subject areas for ArbCom. The two that concern me at the moment are among their closest collaborations.
- Further evidence available
- I can respond to each of the diffs presented above providing the context. (evidence phase)
- Snoog has misrepresented the off-wiki information from 2017 he sent to ArbCom. I have never said that Neutrality and Calton are employees of David Brock. That, like the false claim of edit warring above, is a tactical misrepresentation.
- Given the clear evidence of coordinated harassment, the gaming of the "no personal comments" sanction Awilley unilaterally imposed, and the very clear misrepresentations of content (which is a behavioral issue I have solid evidence to share, especially concerning Snoogans), this case belongs at ArbCom, with the filer and first three commenters on this case as parties to the dispute.
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WSMR-MrX, interactions
WMSR/MrX interaction
- 12m: Talk: Media coverage of Bernie Sanders (108 edits)
- 35m: Wikipedia:Administrator's noticeboard/Edit warring (149/4)
- 37m: Talk:Tulsi Gabbard 2020 presidential campaign (11 edits) cf.Talk:Tulsi_Gabbard_2020_presidential_campaign#Unwarranted_deletions_of_content_by_MrX_and_WMSR
- 2h: Media coverage of Bernie Sanders ()
- 2h: WP:AE (232/1 --> all about me)
- 3h: WP:AN/I (468/63)
- 11h: Tulsi Gabbard 2020 presidential campaign (63 / 8)
- 14h: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media coverage of Bernie Sanders
- 3d: User talk:SashiRolls
O3000, Snoo, X triple interactions
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User talk:Awilley 1 minutes 19 22
User talk:Awilley/Discretionary sanctions 21 hours 5 6
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media coverage of Bernie Sanders 21 hours 11 1
User talk:SashiRolls 7 days 14 11
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User talk:Selvydra 2 hours 5 1
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User talk:Rafe87 5 hours 2 2
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Talk:National Rifle Association 1 minutes 92 231
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