User talk:Aciram

Agnolo Bronzino – ”Portrait of Lucrezia Panciatichi” (circa 1540). Galleria degli Uffizi, Florence.

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A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Congrats for standing up against the kind of people who start removing things but have an argument that is subjective. Those are the worst kinds of disputes to deal with, because you cannot just continue reverting away like if they did not specify any edit summaries. RPI2026F1 (talk) 02:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, this was a flattering barnstar! I agree, the worst vandalism is where you have to devote som much time to the issue. You deserve a barnstar yourself for providing help and advice. --Aciram (talk) 15:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Impressed!

I am new-ish editor of Wikipedia; I have completed 150 or so edits and written 2 articles for English Wikipedia and a smaller number of edits and just 1 article for Spanish Wikipedia. I was browsing the "awards" for the number of edits and, somehow, I ran into your User page and saw your Master Editor II credential...very impressive!

Just thought of saying hi and congrats for your contributions to this wonderful source of knowledge! Well done! Escuadro (talk) 00:34, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much, that was nice of you to say. To work here is relaxing to me. --Aciram (talk) 00:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I coincide with you, it is a great investment of time. Cheers! :) Escuadro (talk) 00:43, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Ulrika Eleonora Stålhammar

Hello Aciram, I just noticed that you undid my edit on Ulrika Eleonora Stålhammar because you found no redundancy. However, the sentence before runs: "Stålhammar was charged with ... marrying a member of the same sex." Isn't that the same as: "Stålhammar was also charged for having married a member of the same sex." Honestly said, I don't understand why this shall NOT be redundant. Would you please explain this to me - or rechange it? Thanks in advance. Chattus (talk) 23:15, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't understand HOW this could be considered redundant? How can you possibly find it redundant to know the charges of the trial, when the trial take such a prominent place in the article? Aside from having put on trial for being a soldier and dressing in male clothing, Stålhammar was charged with the crime of having married a person of her own sex. This was forbidden by law at the time, and carried a death penalty. She managed to avoid death penalty for marrying a woman by her claim that the marriage was sexually unconsumated. How could this serious criminal charge, which was one reason to why she was put on trial, possibly be considered redundant? Can you explain this to me? --Aciram (talk) 23:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

The matter is extremely important, but, as I indicated, it is mentioned twice, in 2 successive sentences, nearly literally identical. Please, have a look at the last part of the last sentence in the previous paragraph, directly above. I think you must have overlooked this. Chattus (talk) 18:04, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2nd-century BC Regents

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:6th-century BC regents

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Copy edit request

Greetings @Aciram Since long I do have one well sourced Draft:Avret Esir Pazarları focusing "Non-elite-commoner-women slavery in Ottoman times" . Some other user seem to have lost their patience and has submitted the draft for AFC review.

Requesting you to add the article in your watch list and also your support in copy edit if possible.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 06:35, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Greetings @ Bookku. I will be happy to add the article to my watch list! I am glad you wrote this article, since Wikipedia do have much less articles covering the subject of slavery in the muslim world than for example slavery in the US, and more articles in the subject are needed. I will be interested in reading it and will with no doubt adjust it as far as my ability if I discover the need while reading it, though I cannot say when. Remember, that an article does not need to be perfect from the moment of creation. It will be adjusted and corrected by those reading it from the moment it is posted by readers with ability and knowledge, which is one of the best advantages in Wikipedia: an article is never finnished! Thanks, and warm regards, --Aciram (talk) 15:22, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:21st-century Swedish activists

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Category:Swedish women's history has been nominated for merging

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Slavery in Egypt

Hi @Aciram, i saw your edit at the article and it looks like a copyright violation from here. Can you explain this? Thanks 1AmNobody24 (talk) 19:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Copywright? I did rephrase the wording, and gave the proper reference. I will rephrase it even further then. Thanks--Aciram (talk) 19:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Reworded the information. If it needs to be reworded even further, I can of course do that, otherwise it is open to anyone, even you, to reword. After all, it is allowed to use the information from the references you give. The only difference in using information legitimately, and copywright, is, essentially, how much you rephrase the information. I hope my rephrasing this time was sufficient, otherwise me, or anyone, can rephrase it further. --Aciram (talk) 19:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

I'd say looks fine now, but be aware that there are tools like CopyPatrol that are quite good at finding parts copied from books or sources. So be sure to always reword it before saving the edit or it might be pickud up by it. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 19:45, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip!--Aciram (talk) 19:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Year of death of Charlotte Eleonora De Geer

Hi, I have read different printed texts about Charlotte Eleonora De Geer, wife of Hans Henric von Essen (1755-1824) whose Wikipedia article probably is the only one mentioning her. In the Swedish (and Estonian) versions of his article, the wife's year of death is 1791, the same as in a book about women in the De Geer family ("Mödrar och döttrar på Leufsta bruk", by Margareta Lundquist, ISBN 91-976117-0-0). However, as far as I can see, you made an update in the English version where her year of death is given as 1798, which happens to be the same year as in the diary (part II) of the duchess/queen Hedvig Elisabeth Charlotta - edited by Carl Carlson Bonde and Cecilia af Klercker, and regarded as one of the best sources of Swedish court life during the 18th and 19th centuries. (The year 1798 also found its way to the Greek and the Italian versions of the Wikipedia article about von Essen, but I guess they copied it from the English version.) Both the printed sources are quite reliable, but they give different years of death for her. I can't really find out what's correct; may I ask where you got your information about 1798 as the year of death for Charlotte Eleonora De Geer? Leongut (talk) 12:30, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello. CharlottA Eleonora De Geer died in 1791, not 1798. I don't know where the year 1798 came from, but I assume it must have been a simple typo. Thank you for noticing it. It has been corrected.--Aciram (talk) 13:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer! Well, as I mentioned, the year 1798 is given in the famous diary of Hedvig Elisabeth Charlotta, but only in the register of persons, which was likely compiled by the editor(s). Maybe Bonde or af Klercker are the guilty ones.

Regarding Charlotte/Charlotta, the name Charlotte is given in "Mödrar och döttrar på Leufsta bruk", but in the register of the diary her name is Charlotta. Another riddle hidden in the shades of history... Leongut (talk) 13:47, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't know what to say about the year being in the diary, but I prefer to trust what the majority of sources say, since the diary is old. The name form is simple: the formal Swedish name was CharlottA, but since this was the 18th-century, everything French was fashionable, and the upper class would always informally use the French spelling, even if that was not the formally correct one, so that is not to be taken seriously. At least, that is the common matter in such cases. Even Swedish royalty called themselwes by the French version of their name in private.--Aciram (talk) 13:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Yep, I am familiar with the love for everything French, but she is still named Eleonora, not Eléonore. And the source saying Charlotta is the oldest of the ones I have found, while Charlotte is mentioned in the modern book about Leufsta. The fact that the duchess (later queen) spelled her name Hedvig Elisabeth CharlottA might perhaps have influenced her or her biographers. I guess it was a question not only for the owner of a name, but also for the ones writing about them. Leongut (talk) 14:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

(My point being, as you said, the spelling is not to be taken overly seriously.) Leongut (talk) 14:11, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

The queen did spell her name Charlotte in private, but her official name was Charlotta. But no matter. Have a nice day.--Aciram (talk) 14:20, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Template usage

Hi,

I have noticed that you used the Template:Expand Swedish in Mary Johnston Rose. It is used for articles that can be expanded with text from a better article in Swedish. The article in Swedish is, well, the same, therefore the template is not needed. I removed it and made some minor changes (apparently you are the author of both en.wiki and sv.wiki article—I did not see that before, so in my edit summary I assumed that the article was translated).

So for your notice, if you are writing an article both in English and in Swedish, the template is not necessary.

Have a nice day! PRmaster1 (talk) 17:08, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I know. The Swedish version has more text and information than the English one has, and are thus better. I know, I wrote both.--Aciram (talk) 17:10, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi,

I saw that you reverted my edit. I understand the template issue, although I think that language templates are supposed to link to versions that are sufficiently better written and referenced, not just have more text. I don't think you should remove more citations needed however, as the article has significant portions of text unsourced. PRmaster1 (talk) 17:42, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

The Swedish version has more information. You can move back the reference template, I did not notice I removed it, I just intended to revert your removal of the language template. --Aciram (talk) 17:44, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Alright, if you insist on the expand language template staying, I will not replace it.

Best regards, PRmaster1 (talk) 17:50, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Marcelle Dauphin

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