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African feminists list

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Hi Anthere, I was hoping to find additional sources for some of the redlinks in your list. How did you come across these names and do they share any common, general source besides for those that have Wikidata links to articles in other languages? czar 04:32, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello user:Czar. The only links I added myself are 1) through WikiData (articles existing in other languages) or 2) categorized African feminists on Wikipedia (for the blue links). All of the red links (beside those visible through Wikidata) have been collected by members of the AFF and les Sans PagEs because several members in those groups are active feminists and simply know . I think they also worked through some websites. You probably better ask DeuxPlusQuatre or Natachat ([1]). But they also know that sources may be a big issue. Maybe they will have suggestions nevertheless. Thanks ! Anthere (talk)

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African feminists

Hi, can you add a full list of the articles created on French wikipedia to the main contest list? As they were created for your segment of the contest. I would love to have allowed all wikis to participate but I couldn't do it for the main contest prizes because the bot was running the show and it would have been time consumiong to check and try to ensure compliance in French. In future I hope we can get a bot to operate on other wikis and encourage more other wikis to get involved.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes I will do that. Sorry for being late. I was in South Africa last week (for work) and it was quite difficult for I to get internet access. Then I had a 24 hours trip to return home (obviously, I slept, ate and watched funny movies instead of doing wiki :)). Anthere (talk)

Thanks. I don't know how many African women bios were created for the entire contest but three people managed to create one for every African nation so has to be a fair amount!! It seemed like we got more African bios than mainland Europe!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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The information you requested is fsmatovu@yahoo.com Thank you. Fsmatovu (talk) 20:03, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding Canvassing on Wikipedia. The thread is Notification of canvassing by User:Anthere. Sport and politics (talk) 12:16, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

I stand by what I did. Sorry. Anthere (talk)

Copying/translating in Wikipedia

Hi! If you translate material from one Wikipedia to another, as you did from French at Loris Cecchini, you must provide attribution for the work of the editors who created that content, unless that content was created exclusively by you (as is very nearly, but not entirely, the case here). The template {{translated page}} is a quick and handy way of doing this. Since I'm here: Wikipedia is built on independent reliable sources; I question whether adding unsourced content offers any benefit whatsoever to the project. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:07, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: In all those cases of articles I recently edited, I was the original editor who added this content to the French Wikipedia first and then second in English. Surely, I do not need to attribute myself with a translated by template.

More practically, most of this content has been created by a handful of people, who are also wikipedians. A lot of those texts have already been published (under a free licence) several years ago in that research report : Marta Pucciarelli (2014) Final Report. University of Applied Sciences and Arts of Southern Switzerland, Laboratory of visual culture. [2] See for example with Colonne_Pascale. That report is mostly about ArtWorks though but fully source the information added. The previous reference was broken but I found a new online version last week and updated it. for example.

Rrecently those researchers published a book, which has been added as a bibliographic source in all the articles (including Loris Cecchini [3]). The book is : Pensa, Iolanda (Ed.) 2017. Public Art in Africa. Art et transformations urbaines à Douala /// Art and Urban Transformations in Douala. Genève: Metis Presses. ISBN 978-2-94-0563-16-6. It is now available for purchase should you want to check. A full OTRS permission has been sent by the authors a week ago. I sent OTRS the exact list of concerned articles last Friday. If you want to check with OTRS, please do. It is ticket [Ticket#2018020910006021] [4]. Obviously not yet treated, but I expect they will add to each talk page a template to indicate the source of the information added to articles. In short... this information is SOURCED and the texts are fully under free licence. Those are scholarly works funded by public research in a Swiss University.

Obviously, the texts are not fully copy and paste as I integrated them as much as possible within our editorial way. In some cases, there were already an article so I adapted things the best I could. And did not keep elements when I felt them inappropriate.

Mind you... it is very much an egg and hen issue. OTRS permissions can not be recorded and handled until the text is fully on Wikipedia. And at the same time the text should be sourced and cleared before it is published ? It is not possible to do it all AT THE SAME TIME :) So I started by putting the texts, putting the sources, then sending the permissions. That's legit. I don't blame you for being careful, but this text is fully sourced so really should not be removed. So thank you for restoring it. Anthere (talk) 10:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

OK, Anthere, these are just my personal thoughts – I plan to walk away from this if I possibly can:

• Of course you are right that if you write a text and then add it first to one Wikipedia and then to another, there's no need to attribute yourself (though it doesn't hurt to do so in an edit summary); if, however, you add a text to one Wikipedia and then translate it after others have contributed to it, you should provide attribution for their work, however minimal (again, it doesn't hurt)
• If the text is copied from somewhere else, you must provide clear attribution of the source – for Creative-Commons sources, the {{CC-notice}} template is handy for the purpose
• The Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 licence in the ticket is not compatible in Wikipedia
• Just because someone has written something and released it under a free licence, that does not necessarily mean that it is sourced, true, accurate, well-written or in any way suitable for use as a reference; it may be all those things, but that will be evaluated by the editors writing the content
• Even less does a free release in itself imply that external content is suitable for inclusion in our articles – in practice, that is almost never the case
• To take a single example, you added at Loris Cecchini "... the natural systems are transformed into a stratified system of semantic relationships, with a view to picking up on the invisible processes of a synthesis between nature and culture". Assuming just for a moment that that is sourced to reliable scholarly publications, we're left with two questions: what, if anything, is it supposed to mean? and what on Earth is it doing in Wikipedia?
• Ms Pensa has for years been using Wikipedia/Wikiafrica to promote her interests, her work, her friends, her association(s), the school(s) where she works/worked and so on – see, e.g., this discussion on her talk-page (so I did really wonder why you were spamming refs to her book through the project!)
• Wouldn't it be a good plan to get some sort of editor consensus before adding any more of that sort of stuff to Wikipedia? And wouldn't the best place to do that be the WP:Conflict of interest noticeboard?

Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:52, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm. I am so used to Wikimedia Commons now rather taking CC BY SA 4.0... that it slipped out of my mind that it was not compatible with Wikipedia. I do not think it is a big issue in itself. Will need a new otrs ticket though...

I note the use of the {{CC-notice}} template. Thank you.

Most of the discussion you point at is from 2013/2014 ? Well, ages ago :( I will be more pragmatic here. Those ArtWorks do exist. Those artists do exist and have significant notoriety (the research does mention many more artists, but I considered them non notable enough, or considered there were not enough sources, so I dropped them entirely). We mean (well, I mean at least) to get more content about Africa on Wikipedia. And that is often a challenge to do so because African artists are so much referenced than European ones. Tough to find sources that are not the gallery where they display their work or their own social profiles. So when there are cases where we have content about those artists written by someone else and not self-published, I think that's the best option we have to write something about those guys. And yes, either I put the source of this content (then it may be spam, but it is sourced) or I do not (then not spam, but not sourced). Hmmm... tough.

I admit ... the natural systems are transformed into a stratified system of semantic relationships, with a view to picking up on the invisible processes of a synthesis between nature and culture sucks :) I missed that one. Otherwise... by and large, though I may have missed some other funny statements, I believe what I put is useful and informative. I dropped quite a bit of stuff and rephrased significantly sometimes.

My apologies for the disruption. Cheers Anthere (talk) 13:26, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

First Edit Day

Hey, Anthere. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Kpgjhpjm (talk) 16:49, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

cute. But actually not true. I joined under a username in January or February 2002. As an anon end of 2001. But the first software Wikipedia used... did not record that type of things. I take it 31st of May is the day I made a first edit with MediaWiki lol. Anthere (talk) 10:27, 4 June 2018 (UTC)