User talk:Buidhe

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Please revert your non-admin close of this controversial RM discussion and relist it instead

At Talk:Virtual_reality_headset#Requested_move_24_March_2021 your closing statement clearly misses the point and sounds more like a supervote where you say "Wikipedia should reflect general usage on this point" (though I recognized you may have meant to attribute that to the opposers, not yourself). Your suggestion "A general RfC on the hyphenation of virtual reality, as suggested by Masem, may help to establish overall consensus" seems way wrong, as the issue here has nothing to do with virtual reality; it's about Wikipedia style. Please revert and relist, and let an admin with more experience in controversial RMs close it. Dicklyon (talk) 22:48, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

• "Wikipedia should reflect general usage on this point" is clearly marked as an argument by opposers. WP:Commonname does not say whether it includes punctuation, so I do not consider that an inadmissible argument, although the MOS argument is also reasonable there is clearly sharply divided opinion on this point, hence a no-consensus close is appropriate. Last, I wager that by this point I actually have more experience in closing controversial RMs than many admins! (t · c) buidhe 22:56, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
• I agree with Dicklyon. Tony (talk) 01:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• Yeah, this close is faulty because: a) "opposers note that most usage (in both generalized and specialized sources) does not use the hyphen" is the WP:CSF fallacy, and right from the start I showed other high-quality and independent sources like Encyclopaedia Britannica using the hyphen; i.e., you and they have ignored source relevancy. And b) "Wikipedia should reflect general usage on this point" is supervoting; it's an opinion which is not supported by WP:P&G, and this has also already been explained in great detail in the course of the discussion (WP:COMMONNAME has nothing to do with style matters, and WP does not follow a style variance, like dropping of hyphenation, unless that variance is essentially universal for that topic in RS, which is clearly not the case if Encyclopaedic Britannica and other sources are found, within seconds of looking, not following that variance). I.e., you treated this as a numeric vote, and sided with the numerical majority who also agree with your own viewpoint. That's a supervote and a faulty close, both for WP:NOTAVOTE reasons and for failure to discern which arguments have a basis in fact and policy and which are WP:ILIKEIT and WP:CSF/WP:SSF fallacies.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:15, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Eurovision Song Contest

Hi Buidhe. I have removed again the image you have inserted into the lead space of Eurovision Song Contest. The article has just gone through a lengthy GA, when images and placement of them was discussed. Putting a poor quality and unclear image into the lead, where it floats inappropriately and the wrong size under the infobox is not helpful, which is why it was removed previously. There is already a logo in the infobox which provides an identifying image for those who hover over a link. The poor quality, small image of an audience, without any sense of where that audience is or what they are watching does not help any reader, nor does it identity Eurovision. If you feel that the article could benefit from an additional image in the lead, it should be placed in the infobox, and chosen with care. If you feel strongly about this matter, please raise the issue on the article talkpage, and seek some consensus for what would be the most appropriate lead image for the article. SilkTork (talk) 03:12, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

SilkTork, The logo image does not show up in the preview, as you would have noticed if you tried it! (Nor does it really help identify what Eurovision is). Under such circumstances, putting an image below the infobox is reasonable solution for getting an identifying image into the preview without cluttering the infobox too much. Furthermore, I do not agree that it is "poor quality" or "unclear", but if you think there is a better image to use, please feel free to swap with another image of your choice. I do not see anywhere in the GA review where appropriate lead image was discussed so I don't think that's a good argument. (t · c) buidhe 03:20, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Portugal and the Holocaust

Hi Buidhe, hope you are well. Your thoughts on the new article for Portugal and the Holocaust would be very welcome! —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:34, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

• Brigade Piron Looks good to me. Perhaps you could get a DYK out of it. (t · c) buidhe 15:49, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for...

...all of your work on "Siegfried Lederer's escape from Auschwitz" and congratulations on it being the featured article of the day. —  AjaxSmack  00:40, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

wild garlic

Yes, thank you for the article about "'one of the most bizarre escapes' of World War II, involved an SS guard who risked (and ultimately lost) his life to help a Jewish Auschwitz prisoner escape. The escapee, Siegfried Lederer, went on to smuggle weapons into the Theresienstadt Ghetto."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect English?

I am a native English speaker and I am pretty sure your revert here is incorrect. The correct grammar is lest a "catastrophe" befalls not lest a "catastrophe" befall ConnorMcGregggor (talk) 19:42, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@ConnorMcGregggor lest is usually followed by a subjunctive. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:57, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

ConnorMcGregggor, That's correct, subjunctive is a thing. (t · c) buidhe 20:16, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

OK, looks like I was wrong. Thanks. ConnorMcGregggor (talk) 20:39, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

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Courtesy note

Realized no one pinged you, so just alerting you that people are trying to forum-shop in your name at WT:RM. Vaticidalprophet 09:44, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, good to know. (t · c) buidhe 09:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Bugles

Hello. When you closed the RM at Bugles, were you aware of the RM at Talk:Bugle_(disambiguation)#Requested_move_22_March_2021 that had been closed against exactly the same move just 17 minutes before the Bugles RM was filed? At least 2 of the 3 supporters were aware of it because they had participated there. It doesn't seem proper to open an RM on a different talk page immediately after a discussion on the same move was closed on the first page. Station1 (talk) 06:22, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I was not aware of this discussion but I don't consider it relevant because move requests for multiple pages tend to yield inconclusive results, whereas those for just one page are more likely to have a clear outcome. (t · c) buidhe 07:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I assumed you were not aware of it, but now that you know that three editors specifically opposed the precise move that you carried out, citing guidelines, statistics and logical problems with the nom, while three editors supported it, including two who participated in both discussions, won't you consider reverting your move and closing as 'no consensus'? Or at the very least reverting and reopening the second RM, so I can point out these facts to another closer? Otherwise, this one must go to WP:MR (I've never done that before, and don't do it lightly) because, although I appreciate your close was done completely in good faith, it's such a blatant case of forum-shopping on the nom's part, and because I believe one non-admin should not overturn the close of another non-admin one week later. Station1 (talk) 16:11, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't agree that it's forum shopping to follow up an unsuccessful move request for multiple pages with a more tailored one for an individual page. For example, multiple AfD's often are unsuccessful if one page is shown to be notable, but in that case you can renominate individually to determine if a single page is notable. It would have been preferable if someone in the discussion had pinged participants in the earlier move, but I don't see that as necessary. (t · c) buidhe 19:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Wouldn't a reasonable compromise be to redirect Bugles to Bugle (disambiguation) since as noted there are other uses than just the snack and instrument. That seems like a reasonable compromise per WP:NOPRIMARY. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:53, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Crouch, Swale, I suggest that you try WP:RfD if you think there would be consensus for that. At the discussion, there were more people preferring primary redirect. (t · c) buidhe 19:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Well I was suggesting that over reverting the move as a compromise but otherwise I'll leave it if the move isn't being reopened. In response to Station1's point I'd point out that neither you or anyone else addressed the long-term significance point for the plural though no one addressed the usage point in the 2nd RM. Also one of the users who opposed the move of the instrument supported moving the snack even if there wasn't a consensus in the 1st RM to move the snack. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

American left/Left

I don't think that there was sufficient editor involvement to close the discussion and move the article. One editor proposed a move, one opposed and one was a sock. TFD (talk) 14:02, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

• Since the only oppose was from a sock, I believe it's appropriate to treat as an unopposed move. (t · c) buidhe 19:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

The most common usage is to capitalize the Left and the Right. See for example, The Chicago Manual of Style: "the Left; members of the left wing; left-winger(s); on the left the Right; members of the right wing..."[1] The American Library Association recommends "the Left."[2] The Encyclopedia of the American Left uses capitalization. There have been discussions on this issue in other articles and in general editors have agreed to use capitalization.

The one editor who did respond said they wanted to see more input from editors. I suggest we re-open the request, so I saw that as opposed, at least until other editors had responded.

TFD (talk) 23:40, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

The Four Deuces, Look at the NGRAM results.[3] I'll reopen if you insist, but consider that MOS:CAPS requires that it be "consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources". (t · c) buidhe 00:59, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

That ngrams query tells the wrong story, because in the upper case version, Left is clearly a noun, whereas in the lower case version, it could be any number of parts of speech ("the American left| the room/ in a hurry/ to pick up her husband /some on his plate..."). As it turns out, the top 10 words in trigrams starting "American left" are: and, flank, in, the, was, has, is, to, wing, and on. But that still doesn't tell us how it compares with "American Left", although we can assume that the latter is always, or nearly always a noun phrase. However, if you restrict both of them to noun phrases only, then you get a very different picture than the one you came up with, with the jump in "American Left" taking place exactly where one would expect it, and the caps noun phrase roundly defeating the other. I don't have an opinion how the RM should be decided, but if you're going to rely on data to help decide it, let's start with the right data. Mathglot (talk) 10:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

The ngram shows that since 1987 there are more hits for "American Left" than "American left." Bear in mind that the terms left and right only came to be applied to political ideology early in the 20th century, which is where the first examples of capitalization are found. The 19th century sources used the term "the American left" to refer to the left flank of U.S. army formations.

A quick perusal of Google books hits shows that capitalization is more frequent, especially in higher quality sources. On the first page of a Google book search for "american left" seems to show fairly consistent capitalization. Only David Horowitz's book used lower case, although I could not access all the books listed.[4] His book would not meet rs.

So I think it is probably best to re-open the discussion.

TFD (talk) 18:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

This Is a Robbery: The World's Greatest Art Heist

Thank you for your help with This Is a Robbery: The World's Greatest Art Heist. I recreated the article so quickly because I was concerned the user that moved it to draft space was considering recreating the article themselves. I have seen it happen before. I guess I should have waited 60 more seconds! Best, Thriley (talk) 03:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome! (t · c) buidhe 03:32, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

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Great famine in Greece

I've corrected the 150,000 estimation you provided since this number is limited to 1941 and not the entire period of Nazi occupation.Alexikoua (talk) 09:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

List of genocides by death toll

Somebody put the Foibe massacres as a genocide on the page but the main page has no sources that say it is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

Thanks for William Lyon Mackenzie

Thanks for your help with the William Lyon Mackenzie article in March, specifically for your comments at the second PR. I have nominated the article for featured article status and I hope you will comment on the nomination here. Thanks again for your help preparing this article. Z1720 (talk) 17:16, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

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Page move

Hey there Buidhe, How are you? I hope you are having a great time!

What I wanted to talk about is this[5] page move. I believe this move was closed prematurely, as many other editors were yet to comment there. So, yesterday I proposed a new request for move[6] which was closed by Joshua, citing WP:MR, which I wasn't aware of before. WP:MR suggest to use closer's talk page to resolve the issue. So it is my humble request to please reopen the disussion that you had closed.

Regards. LearnIndology (talk) 04:28, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

LearnIndology, Thanks for commenting here. The move was open for a full 7 days and there was a clear consensus against it. Opposing editors cited policy-based rationales such as I admit that "Vedism" is certainly in use among specialists but it is by no means a COMMONNAME. See the Google ngram viewer. I can't stop you from going to Move review, but I doubt you would get a different outcome. (t · c) buidhe 04:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes I agree it was open for 7 days, but given the nature of the topic, it required more time. Many editors commented after the discussion was closed[7], views of some editors changed at the last moment[8]. I am just asking for some more time. Regards. LearnIndology (talk) 04:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Template:Wakefield, West Yorkshire

Shouldn't the discussion have been relisted since all of the comments there were from WP:RMT and it was there for a few days so many people will probably have missed it and thus not participated. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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Varna move

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Sarup & Sons

At Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 311#Sarup & Sons you said that Sarup & Sons, publishers, should be deprecated. Do you intend to set up an RfC?

I noticed that the definition of National conservatism in its book the Dictionary of Public Administration (2007)[9] is identical to the first two paragraphs of the Wikipedia article version as at 12:18, 5 August 2006.[10] An editor added the source after I nominated the article for deletion in 2010.[11]

TFD (talk) 20:09, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• TFD Thanks for posting. Does it really need a RfC, though? If you see the source being cited you can just remove it and refer to the prior discussions. (t · c) buidhe 20:22, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Alright, I will do that. TFD (talk) 20:27, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

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Frederick the Great

Thanks again, Buidhe, for the edits on Frederick the Great. I think you did great work that I'm less comfortable doing. I appreciate it. I wanted to ask, however, when you ported over references to a new article when splitting them, you mentioned you used scipt(s). Could you possibly point me toward them, so I can make my own work a bit easier when I have to move references across articles? Thanks! Wtfiv (talk) 07:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

• Wtfiv The script I used is User:Kaniivel/Reference Organizer. Glad I was able to help with the article! (t · c) buidhe 07:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Wtfiv (talk) 15:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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DYK review for TU Delft Library

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Portugal and the holocaust

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Tibesti thanks

Hey, I just wanted to leave a quick note of thanks here re the Tibesti Mountains FAC. The fact that you were the deciding jurist on its archiving is irrelevant. I think you were objectively fair and I respect that. I imagine that it's an enormous amount of work performing source/image reviews, etc. (not to mention the other work I noticed on your user page), and frankly that's cool as hell. Cheers from the middle of nowhere. Brycehughes (talk) 10:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

• Brycehughes Thanks for your work on that article... my FAC for The Holocaust in Slovakia initially failed for similar reasons, so I understand how frustrating it can be. (t · c) buidhe 10:44, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

• I don't think frustrating is the word. I gave it my best shot and I'm honestly pretty happy with it. I also think I cheated a bit because I got free peer reviews... I didn't know PR existed before this facepalm. I'll likely let it sit for another 10 years, though I doubt my writing style will ever be very amenable to FAC. Thanks again for all your work. Brycehughes (talk) 10:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

LGBT ideology

What happened to the article? I've been doing a lit review recently and the topic seems notable. Although it might have not been a year ago, it is now (I found several academic sources in Polish, published in 2020, discussing this). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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(talk page stalker) FTFY  :) ——Serial 15:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

LOL! 😂😂🤣🤣 You just made my day, Serial Number 54129! (t · c) buidhe 16:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Failed round-robin move

Hello, Buidhe. It looks like you recently tried to carry out a move involving Karemlash and Karamlash, but you left them as redirects to each other and there does not appear to be a valid version in the history of either page. I hope you can figure out what went wrong and recover the content of the article. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:55, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Never mind; I found it at Karamlesh. However, this page-swapping script seems to be generating a lot of errors; it would be appreciated if you would double-check the results every time you use it, both for articles and for their talk pages. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I apologize, I must not have double checked that one as indeed I should do every time. Thanks for fixing it. (t · c) buidhe 01:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Assassination of Talat Pasha

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Armenian Genocide

Thank you for your contributions to the Armenian Genocide related articles.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Armenian Genocide. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Look, I appreciate your intentions, but you are completely wrong on this matter and the sources you present are not credible. It is a bit frustrating when a user who neither knows Swedish nor Swedish politics insist on inserting factual errors. You are completely wrong on this, unfortunately Jeppiz (talk) 19:47, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Buidhe. Thank you.--Visnelma (talk) 21:48, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

List advice

Howdie,

Over the last few weeks you have provided some sound advise on lists, I was wondering if I could get your input again? I had a little mess around with List of British brigades of the Second World War yesterday, to see if it could be whipped into shape akin to the division list. A few tables, sources, and a brief amount of detail ballooned the list. Doing the same for the main portion (which is missing a lot of brigades) is going to surely send it over the recommend page limit. Any advice on making this a useful list (leaving it along, carrying, splitting into numerous lists?)?EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 22:29, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

• EnigmaMcmxc, Yeah, I agree that if this list is filled out all the way, it would be too long. I would advise a split. Perhaps List of British airborne brigades of the Second World War, List of British anti-aircraft brigades of the Second World War, etc. Then your main list would just link to the sublists similar to List of Nazi concentration camps. (t · c) buidhe 22:41, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

  Thanks for the advise. I have started work on the first of them, located here: User:EnigmaMcmxc/sandbox. The proposed navbox I have added to the bottom, would that past the mustard as compared to the old British Army list template (that you advised removed from the divisional article)?EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 06:26, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

  EnigmaMcmxc, Yes, looks great! Also, FYI many editors prefer navboxes at the bottom of an article to sidebars all things being equal. (t · c) buidhe 13:34, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Assassination of Talat Pasha

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Greek case scheduled for TFA

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Clarify RfC consensus: LAPD

Could you clarify whether the RfC consensus at the LAPD page is NOT for saying the LAPD "has been criticized for its history of police brutality, corruption, and discriminatory policing" but for the LAPD "has a history of police brutality, corruption, and discriminatory policing." An editor is claiming that the RfC is for the attributed pov[12], which is something that the RfC was not about and which no one who commented asked for. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:48, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

This edit[13] also entails rewording the RfC language in a way that softens the language. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:49, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

I think that's a bad close. The implications are that RfC creators must now ask whether verbatim language has approval or not, because any lack of specificity will be misused by tendentious editors to claim that no consensus exists for any specific language. This has the impact of making RfCs useless at finding consensus on pages where tendentious editors try to block any and all changes. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 00:14, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I just don't think that the RfC participants settled on any specific language or phrasing. (t · c) buidhe 00:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

This was a good and fair close, Buidhe. Thanks. Snooganssnoogans' accusations of tendentiousness are improper. I will take the high road regarding their editing on the page. Crossroads ^-talk- 01:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I believe you should retract the closure per WP:BADNAC: "The outcome is a close call (especially where there are several valid outcomes) or likely to be controversial. Such closes are better left to an administrator." The outcome of that RfC cannot be that it was unclear whether the LAPD misconduct was WP:YESPOV or should be stated in WP:WIKIVOICE when (1) The RfC question said nothing about attributed opinions, (2) There were countless peer-reviewed sources that covered the misconduct as systemic and extended, and (3) There was a clear consensus for inclusion of the content asked about in the RfC question. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 02:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

hi buidhe, Thank you for that feedback on the Knowledge of the Holocaust page! I'm actually editing this page as part of a university subject and I've made the mistake of uploading my edits too early. So after my tutor checks it and whatnot, I'll reupload my edits and have the page references as well. So if you find the page is reverted back, that's the reasoning behind it. The edits you've seen plus more will be uploaded in the next few weeks. Kind regards May12278899

May122789 (talk) 05:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Removing the talk page postings of others

Please don't do this. If you think the postings are irrelevant, reply to them and say why (or collapse them). Thanks, Black Kite (talk)

Million Award for Armenian Genocide

	The Million Award
	For your contributions to bring Armenian Genocide (estimated annual readership: 1,500,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Reidgreg (talk) 11:57, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

		The Military history A-Class medal
		On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the A-Class medal for Dęblin–Irena Ghetto, Hitler's prophecy, and Nazis and Nazi Collaborators (Punishment) Law. Gog the Mild (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 00:30, 28 April 2021 (UTC)