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I am the same ip. I am also identical to Mats Envall who recently falsified cladism using empirical evidence (the relativity of time) in the reference I include. I have thus shown that cladism is empirically wrong, that is, wrong. To me, it is incomprehensible that you ban me from inclding these findings in the definition of cladistics (or cladism which I prefer to call it). Normally, we simply discard models that have been proven to be wrong in science. For how long will cladism be allowed to discard science (and facts)? [[User:Consist|Consist]] ([[User talk:Consist#top|talk]]) 22:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC) |
I am the same ip. I am also identical to Mats Envall who recently falsified cladism using empirical evidence (the relativity of time) in the reference I include. I have thus shown that cladism is empirically wrong, that is, wrong. To me, it is incomprehensible that you ban me from inclding these findings in the definition of cladistics (or cladism which I prefer to call it). Normally, we simply discard models that have been proven to be wrong in science. For how long will cladism be allowed to discard science (and facts)? [[User:Consist|Consist]] ([[User talk:Consist#top|talk]]) 22:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Perhaps you should try to work with the editors at [[Cladistics]] by discussing the changes at the talk page instead of, by making heavy-handed edits without discussion or edit summaries, appearing to work against them. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 22:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC) |
:Perhaps you should try to work with the editors at [[Cladistics]] by discussing the changes at the talk page instead of, by making heavy-handed edits without discussion or edit summaries, appearing to work against them. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 22:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC) |
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To Ed, I have to correct: cladism isn't "full of paradoxes"; it is wrong. All of us will of course find ourselves in a world of paradoxes if we are wrong about the relations between reality and our comprehension of it. Paradoxes (like that the bumble-bee shouldn't be able to fly) are of course due to our inability to understand reality; they are not existing phenomena. The paradoxes in cladism are due to the fact that cladism is inconsistent, self-contradictory and wrong. Such comprehensions are of course paradoxical. How could they be otherwise? Cladism is a black hole in science. It is conceptualization the other way around. [[User:Consist|Consist]] ([[User talk:Consist#top|talk]]) 22:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC) |
To Ed, I have to correct: cladism isn't "full of paradoxes"; it is wrong. All of us will of course find ourselves in a world of paradoxes if we are wrong about the relations between reality and our comprehension of it. Paradoxes (like that the bumble-bee shouldn't be able to fly) are of course due to our inability to understand reality; they are not existing phenomena. The paradoxes in cladism are due to the fact that cladism is inconsistent, self-contradictory and wrong. Such comprehensions are of course paradoxical. How could they be otherwise? Cladism is a black hole in science. It is conceptualization the other way around. [[User:Consist|Consist]] ([[User talk:Consist#top|talk]]) 22:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC) |
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To C.Fred, I have to direct the question: why should I "work with the editors" at cladistics? If I had shown that alcohol causes sceletal cancer, should I then "work with the editors" at 'sceletal cancer' to enforce my findings on the page? Shouldn't they adopt my findings as soon as they are published? I of course understand that cladism is a particularly complicated error, since it has been enforced since the early 1970-ies, but this is the situation Ashlock warned for. Accepting an inconsistency does not provide a good foundation for a future building. The ground may disappear when the building has been raised. The conclusion that cladism is wrong is analogous to the conclusion that the emperor is naked. It is a fact. If cladists want to discuss in what parts it may be right, then they have to formulate questions we can look for an answer on. "Natural" is everything that isn't true, but feels nice.[[User:Consist|Consist]] ([[User talk:Consist#top|talk]]) 23:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Your recent edits at Cladistics
Hello Consist. It seems possible that you are the same editor who has recently been making changes of this article as the IP address 83.254.23.159 (talk · contribs). If you are, you should take note of a warning I left on the IP's talk page:
Hello 83.254. Cladistics is full of paradoxes, as we know. Nevertheless, if you continue to add your personal views in the Cladistics article, without trying to get support from other editors first, you will probably be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please try to make sensible contributions on Talk:Cladistics, and be sure you can give evidence for your own views by citing published articles. Generally we do not allow people to add their personal point of view to articles. Do that on your own website, if you feel a need to express those thoughts. EdJohnston (talk) 23:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
The IP has been blocked for 12 hours. If you continue as you are, both you and the IP will probably wind up both being permanently blocked. EdJohnston (talk) 23:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I am the same ip. I am also identical to Mats Envall who recently falsified cladism using empirical evidence (the relativity of time) in the reference I include. I have thus shown that cladism is empirically wrong, that is, wrong. To me, it is incomprehensible that you ban me from inclding these findings in the definition of cladistics (or cladism which I prefer to call it). Normally, we simply discard models that have been proven to be wrong in science. For how long will cladism be allowed to discard science (and facts)? Consist (talk) 22:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should try to work with the editors at Cladistics by discussing the changes at the talk page instead of, by making heavy-handed edits without discussion or edit summaries, appearing to work against them. —C.Fred (talk) 22:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
I have falsified cladism. Its denial of paraphyletic groups is simply empirically wrong. Paraphyletic groups do exist, whereas holophyletic groups (which cladism calls monophyletic groups) do not exist, have not existed, cannot exist nor can have existed. Cladism confuses process and pattern, acknowledging process as if it is pattern although pattern (i.e., reality) is the correct choice for "acknowledgement". My article has been scrutinized by at least 6 reviewers (possibly 10), whereas cladism never was published in any scientific journal before Farris and Nelson dragged it into biological systematics. The reason it wasn't accepted by any scientific journal is that it is wrong.Consist (talk) 22:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
To Ed, I have to correct: cladism isn't "full of paradoxes"; it is wrong. All of us will of course find ourselves in a world of paradoxes if we are wrong about the relations between reality and our comprehension of it. Paradoxes (like that the bumble-bee shouldn't be able to fly) are of course due to our inability to understand reality; they are not existing phenomena. The paradoxes in cladism are due to the fact that cladism is inconsistent, self-contradictory and wrong. Such comprehensions are of course paradoxical. How could they be otherwise? Cladism is a black hole in science. It is conceptualization the other way around. Consist (talk) 22:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
To C.Fred, I have to direct the question: why should I "work with the editors" at cladistics? If I had shown that alcohol causes sceletal cancer, should I then "work with the editors" at 'sceletal cancer' to enforce my findings on the page? Shouldn't they adopt my findings as soon as they are published? I of course understand that cladism is a particularly complicated error, since it has been enforced since the early 1970-ies, but this is the situation Ashlock warned for. Accepting an inconsistency does not provide a good foundation for a future building. The ground may disappear when the building has been raised. The conclusion that cladism is wrong is analogous to the conclusion that the emperor is naked. It is a fact. If cladists want to discuss in what parts it may be right, then they have to formulate questions we can look for an answer on. "Natural" is everything that isn't true, but feels nice.Consist (talk) 23:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)