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Hello Hsvbypass! Thank you for revising your edits to include [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Generally, in things like lists of trails (even in prose), we need either a link to an existing article with sources, or sources right there if the article doesn't exist, so that we can satisfy [[WP:V]]. That's completed now, so I won't be reverting. But do please take a look at [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]] and [[WP:Future event]]. It's important to not treat future events as certainties, especially a trail planned for 2035 completion. For example, looking at [[Big Spring Park (Huntsville, Alabama)]], I see {{tq|Big Spring Park is the expected trail head of the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama}}, which is fine (especially since it could & should be linked to the article you're drafting!). It indicates that this trail doesn't exist yet and this is an expected trailhead. On the other hand, {{tq|Huntsville Botanical Garden will be a prime stop along the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama, a 70-mile bicycle and walking trail that will connect Huntsville to the nearby cities of Athens, Madison, and Decatur.}} (from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Huntsville_Botanical_Garden&diff=prev&oldid=969013407 here]) is not quite desirable. We have truly no idea if this will be a {{tq|prime stop}} along the trail. If sources say that they ''anticipate'' this ''could'' be a prime stop, that we could say. Same goes for {{tq|This section of Bob Wallace will house part of the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama, a 70-mile bicycling and walking trail that will connect Huntsville, Madison, Athens, and Decatur}} from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Wallace_Avenue/Sparkman_Drive&diff=prev&oldid=969011947 here]. I haven't reverted because this can be fixed with just a few words, e.g. replacing "will" with "is planned to" and such. Keeping [[WP:CRYSTAL]] in mind, happy editing! [[User:Leijurv|Leijurv]] ([[User talk:Leijurv|talk]]) 22:25, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello Hsvbypass! Thank you for revising your edits to include [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Generally, in things like lists of trails (even in prose), we need either a link to an existing article with sources, or sources right there if the article doesn't exist, so that we can satisfy [[WP:V]]. That's completed now, so I won't be reverting. But do please take a look at [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]] and [[WP:Future event]]. It's important to not treat future events as certainties, especially a trail planned for 2035 completion. For example, looking at [[Big Spring Park (Huntsville, Alabama)]], I see {{tq|Big Spring Park is the expected trail head of the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama}}, which is fine (especially since it could & should be linked to the article you're drafting!). It indicates that this trail doesn't exist yet and this is an expected trailhead. On the other hand, {{tq|Huntsville Botanical Garden will be a prime stop along the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama, a 70-mile bicycle and walking trail that will connect Huntsville to the nearby cities of Athens, Madison, and Decatur.}} (from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Huntsville_Botanical_Garden&diff=prev&oldid=969013407 here]) is not quite desirable. We have truly no idea if this will be a {{tq|prime stop}} along the trail. If sources say that they ''anticipate'' this ''could'' be a prime stop, that we could say. Same goes for {{tq|This section of Bob Wallace will house part of the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama, a 70-mile bicycling and walking trail that will connect Huntsville, Madison, Athens, and Decatur}} from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Wallace_Avenue/Sparkman_Drive&diff=prev&oldid=969011947 here]. I haven't reverted because this can be fixed with just a few words, e.g. replacing "will" with "is planned to" and such. Keeping [[WP:CRYSTAL]] in mind, happy editing! [[User:Leijurv|Leijurv]] ([[User talk:Leijurv|talk]]) 22:25, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
:Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. Editors like you, that's what Wikipedia needs. (Not people like [[User:John from Idegon]]) This makes a lot more sense and I'll be more careful to follow those Wikipedia policies that you provided. Not that it changes anything, but the whole '2035' is just the name of a committee designed to do a variety of projects before 2035, this trail is expected to be completed by 2024. So I'll wait until large sections of the trail open up before doing any [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]] and [[WP:Future event]] edits.--[[User:Hsvbypass|Hsvbypass]] ([[User talk:Hsvbypass#top|talk]]) 22:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
:Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. Editors like you, that's what Wikipedia needs. (Not people like [[User:John from Idegon]]) This makes a lot more sense and I'll be more careful to follow those Wikipedia policies that you provided. Not that it changes anything, but the whole '2035' is just the name of a committee designed to do a variety of projects before 2035, this trail is expected to be completed by 2024. So I'll wait until large sections of the trail open up before doing any [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]] and [[WP:Future event]] edits.--[[User:Hsvbypass|Hsvbypass]] ([[User talk:Hsvbypass#top|talk]]) 22:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
::Is there a reason you pinged me here, or are you just bound and determined to waste more of my time? Ping me, or message me, again and I'll bring [[WP:Harrassment]] charges against you. Bye. [[User:John from Idegon|John from Idegon]] ([[User talk:John from Idegon|talk]]) 23:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for your concern, but I assure you I work for a random technology company completely unrelated to every aspect of the articles I'm writing about. I'm just a local bicyclist who's excited about a future trail.--Hsvbypass (talk) 22:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Writing about future events

Hello Hsvbypass! Thank you for revising your edits to include reliable sources. Generally, in things like lists of trails (even in prose), we need either a link to an existing article with sources, or sources right there if the article doesn't exist, so that we can satisfy WP:V. That's completed now, so I won't be reverting. But do please take a look at WP:CRYSTALBALL and WP:Future event. It's important to not treat future events as certainties, especially a trail planned for 2035 completion. For example, looking at Big Spring Park (Huntsville, Alabama), I see Big Spring Park is the expected trail head of the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama, which is fine (especially since it could & should be linked to the article you're drafting!). It indicates that this trail doesn't exist yet and this is an expected trailhead. On the other hand, Huntsville Botanical Garden will be a prime stop along the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama, a 70-mile bicycle and walking trail that will connect Huntsville to the nearby cities of Athens, Madison, and Decatur. (from here) is not quite desirable. We have truly no idea if this will be a prime stop along the trail. If sources say that they anticipate this could be a prime stop, that we could say. Same goes for This section of Bob Wallace will house part of the future Singing River Trail of North Alabama, a 70-mile bicycling and walking trail that will connect Huntsville, Madison, Athens, and Decatur from here. I haven't reverted because this can be fixed with just a few words, e.g. replacing "will" with "is planned to" and such. Keeping WP:CRYSTAL in mind, happy editing! Leijurv (talk) 22:25, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. Editors like you, that's what Wikipedia needs. (Not people like User:John from Idegon) This makes a lot more sense and I'll be more careful to follow those Wikipedia policies that you provided. Not that it changes anything, but the whole '2035' is just the name of a committee designed to do a variety of projects before 2035, this trail is expected to be completed by 2024. So I'll wait until large sections of the trail open up before doing any WP:CRYSTALBALL and WP:Future event edits.--Hsvbypass (talk) 22:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a reason you pinged me here, or are you just bound and determined to waste more of my time? Ping me, or message me, again and I'll bring WP:Harrassment charges against you. Bye. John from Idegon (talk) 23:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]