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::I can't believe it, but you are right, I mixed you up with another person. Please excuse me, I was confused! --[[User:Mustafa Mustamann|Mustafa Mustamann]] ([[User talk:Mustafa Mustamann|talk]]) 10:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
::I can't believe it, but you are right, I mixed you up with another person. Please excuse me, I was confused! --[[User:Mustafa Mustamann|Mustafa Mustamann]] ([[User talk:Mustafa Mustamann|talk]]) 10:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== AfD nomination of Comorian–Kosovan relations ==

Hi! [[Comorian–Kosovan relations]] has been nominated for [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deletion]]. Please feel free to explain your opinions. Go and see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comorian–Kosovan relations]]. Thank you for your time! --<span style="border: 2px black solid; background-color: black;">[[User:Turkish Flame|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="lime">'''Turkish Flame'''</font>]] [[User talk:Turkish Flame|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="lime"><sup><u>☎</u></sup></font>]]</span> 18:10, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

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I am a Yorkshireman living in the Western Highlands of Scotland. I mainly edit things related to Scotland, Yorkshire, Europe, Politics, Geopolitics, History, Film/TV, and Football.
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Herzegovina

Sorry for the late answer. Your question is quite interesting, I always thought the name of BiH can cause confusion (as well as many other things over there like administrative division which can take some time to comprehend). Herzegovina is a geographic not an ethnic term as well as the term Bosnia. Herzegovina is the southern part of the country mostly populated by Serbs and Croats but there are also Bosniaks especially in Mostar which suffered a lot from the Croatian army shelling during the war in the divided city. To answer your questions, yes many people would refer to themselves as Herzegovinian (Hercegovac/Hercegovci; Hercegovka/Hercegovke) but it is strictly a matter of local patriotism. There is no one term for the BiH (Bosnianandherzegovinian or smth like that) though so most of the people from the outside will call them all Bosnians (the further complication is that the Muslim population call themselves Bosniaks but their language Bosnian which is not recognised by Serbs and Croats who either don't accept the existence of their language or they call it Bosniak language).

For an example both Catholics and Protestants of N Ireland can refer to themselves as (N) Irish instead of British to emphasize their local flavor. Though this might not be the best example. Let's take for an example Sicilians, they are Italians but they are probably all calling themselves Sicilian because they think of it as something special.

Herzegovina is geographically different from the northern parts. It's more rocky and dry, not so tame with no valleys and fields. That is probably why they consider themselves different, they live in harsher conditions. This is what the landscape usually looks like around Herzegovina: File:Vlasulja.JPG. You can see it in the backdrop of the main town in Serbian part of the area plus the stone houses - File:Trebinje River.jpg or the same thing in Croat/Bosniak main town File:MostarBridgeNew.JPG.

The whole situation is different from Montenegro where 10 years ago mostly everyone referred to themselves as Montenegrin (geographic sense back then) and speaking Serbian language. In the mean time a movement of the national rebirth by the current PM (the same guy who was Milosevic's ally in early days and a Serb nationalist, he even led the siege of Dubrovnik but that's another side of these schizophrenic events) arose so some people became Montenegrin by ethnicity and decided that they speak Montenegrin language and Serbs distanced themselves from this by changing their declared nationality to Serbian. So in between two censuses in Montenegro, half of the population changed their ethnicity and half changed their mothertongue language (obviously you can't change either but if you live in Montenegro it's different heh).

Hope I answered your question. If you have anything else please ask.--Avala (talk) 18:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well I think their passports say "Nationality: Bosnia and Herzegovina" without demonym. Perhaps it says bosanskohercegovačko državljanstvo which would be Bosnianherzegovinian citizenship but I doubt it. However, like I said before, there is no personal demonym (Bosnianandherzegovinian or smth like that).
Bosnian language (bosanski) is a term used by Bosniaks because they are trying to impose it on Serbs and Croats as well. Others use the term Bosniak language (bošnjački) however either way it's not really a language. It's 100% the same as one of the official dialects of Croatian and Serbian (another issue is that some of the official dialects that make Serbian and Croatian are absolutely equal). I really couldn't care less what some Bosniaks call their language, but I am sure it pisses off the real linguists. Serbian and Croatian themselves are grammatically the same (they could have been different before but through Yugoslavia they were basically merged). The main difference between what people speak in Belgrade and Zagreb is the rendering of the former Slavic letter yat as it became e in Serbian and (i)je in Croatian. So milk would be mleko in Serbian and mlijeko in Croatian. However the problem is many Croats say mliko even though this so called ikavian is not officially recognised while on the other side all the Serbs in Bosnia, Montenegro and eastern Serbia say mlijeko just like Croats do which makes things quite complicated and these two languages are very tough for distinction. Usually people like Germans or Chinese would call Serbs and Croats nuts for making two languages out of this as their regional variations are much bigger yet they are still calling them dialects. The thing is many regional unofficial variations of Serbian (areas in the South) and Croatian (areas in the North) are so much different from the official languages they belong to meaning that people from Belgrade and Zagreb would easily understand each other but we can't say the same thing for people from those regions with whom they supposedly share the language. Linguistically there is more difference between these dialects and Serbian or Croatian than between Serbian and Croatian. Also some Croatians say kaj or čak for "what" while most of them use što and Serbs use šta. That is the second "major" difference.
Also Serbian uses Cyrillic while Croats use Latin only. Therefore Serbian is 100% phonetic language when written in Cyrillic. Both languages don't have such thing as spelling as they are written as they are spoken (Croats use the original spelling for foreign names usually though) with only difference that Latin version has some double phonemes which makes it 99% phonetic (nj - pronounced as ny like soft n, is just њ in Cyrillic but either way there is no word where this letter combination is supposed to be pronounced as n and j, it's always nj so there is no worry there even though it doesn't look completely phonetic).
Obviosuly there are vocabulary differences, mostly because Croatian linguists try to translate foreign borrowed words while Serbs don't do it on that scale. So for an example telegraph is telegraf in Serbian while it is brzojav in Croatian. Many of these translations are not widely accepted in the population but they do exist and are used in official sense even though neither language has the noble or official variation as some languages do.
As for the Montenegrin, it is a recent creation, no international institution recognises that it exists.
Mostar bridge was blown up by Croatian army because they wanted to cut off the Muslim part of the town. It was reconstructed from the rocks in the river, in 2005 I think.
What you gave as an example for Wales, is what Montenegro was like before. Everyone declared themselves as Montenegrin speaking Serbian. Today half of these people changed their mother tongue and now declare they speak Montenegrin while half of them changed their nationality and now they are Serbian. It's all politics and what makes it insane is that the guy who is doing this, who is behind it all was the biggest Serb nationalist at the beginning of his career and even participated in Dubrovnik siege but today he is the Montenegrin nationalist who suddenly speaks Montenegrin language etc. I am talking about Milo Djukanovic of course. Personally I think there is too much fuss about what is going on with the country of 500k. Media or people never talk that much about issues of Luxembourgish language (a High German dialect which became a separate language just because Luxembourg is a different country while in reality every High German dialect is equally different from the Official German we all know about) even though it has twice as many declared speakers and even the intl recognition.
Nope still didn't install one.
Btw, to me it seems that Lesotho wont recognise Kosovo. It's a bit funny and it would be pathetic to open a section on that (not only because of the crystal balling) in the talk page of recognition article but Jeremic is visiting Zuma's inauguration to thank S. Africans for no recognition (also possibly for their representative making fun of the US representative in the UN last year hehe) and he met with Lesotho counterpart. I guess that now Lesotho shall join the frontlines of Serbian fight for international law (: --Avala (talk) 21:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 21:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jakezing

Obviously not suitable for adminship, and the (temporary but lengthy) indef-block would be the kiss of death for sure. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 00:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hm? Oh and anderson, why do you have to bother me? I never requested your input so yah.--Jakezing (Your King) (talk) 19:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
[1] Ijanderson (talk) 04:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That shows that BB is right.Max Mux (talk) 10:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Hello, IJA. You have new messages at GSK's talk page.
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Hello

You seem to be active in map making. I wish to share my view with you about Kosovos' status as a semi-recognised state. Yes it is true that some countries recognise Kosovo yet a great number of countries specifically view Kosovo as a province of Serbia (governed by the temporary UN administration). So please relfect this reality in your map by either fully accepting the UN definition of a country (include Kosovo with Serbia), or highlight Kosovo by verticle lines (signalling that it is a desputed territory). Thanks for your time mate.Mike Babic (talk) 12:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

embassies

Can you help?Max Mux (talk) 11:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have just send a message. Hope they answer soon.Max Mux (talk) 13:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have other addresses as well? I have found this:

http://www.embassyworld.com

Max Mux (talk) 13:20, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comores

They have recognized Kosovo!Max Mux (talk) 18:15, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have now written to about 50 embassies but often I had a failure notice!Max Mux (talk) 07:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have found others?Max Mux (talk) 10:26, 20 May 2009 (UTC) I receiced an answer today.Max Mux (talk) 14:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia SignpostWikipedia Signpost: 18 May 2009

Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 12:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please give up your futile attempt to split the article Kosovo

As you can see you are the only one and we are the majority. Accept the poll, please, ok? It makes no sense at all to try again and again to split/rename/move the article. Thank you. --Mustafa Mustamann (talk) 21:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If so, why do you (and others) again and again start a poll about splitting/moving/renaming? This is the point and I want you to see this point and correct your behaviour accordingly. As I asked you for help it was because I wanted a poll about the contry box on top and not a poll about a splitting. Your move was not helpful in any way but it was contrary to my intention. --Mustafa Mustamann (talk) 07:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can't believe it, but you are right, I mixed you up with another person. Please excuse me, I was confused! --Mustafa Mustamann (talk) 10:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Comorian–Kosovan relations

Hi! Comorian–Kosovan relations has been nominated for deletion. Please feel free to explain your opinions. Go and see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comorian–Kosovan relations. Thank you for your time! --Turkish Flame ☎ 18:10, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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